Ok since the Brits are short a class, i was thinking, what about a REAL MG class. I was searching and i found that they did have an MG that they used a lot. It was the Vickers MG:

The Vickers was the heavy machinegun used by support platoons for the Paras as well as in regular infantry battalions. The Vickers fired a belt-fed .303 cartidge. It had a water-cooled barrel, which accounts for the large barrel jacket and hose leading to a water can. This family of machineguns was a venerable part of the British military, and was an extremely reliable and effective weapon.

Heres the link...Its under Gear, then weapons of the para...
http://www.6th-airborne.org/index.html

There have been many versions of this thread, but only one answer:

No, the Vickers is too damned heavy!

If Memory serves me right, I believe there was allready a thread about this gun. Many people support it (um, I think) as a good way to strengthen and balance the British team however It was. (again if I remember properly) a beast to carry required like 2-3 people. (?) A great idea but I don't think the Dev. team will put it in.

Heck it was a try...im just mad that the Brits are too Handicaped....O well.

AND IF IT WAS SO HEAVY......HOW COULD IT BE CARRIED BY THE PARA's?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I do not know, but that thing is freakishly heavy.

well....i found it on a British Para Website....and i saw actuall pics...and it needed a gunner and a person to hold the 3 boxes of ammo....It could be one guy with one box of ammo like the Mg 42.

I wont stop trying cause i want people to actually want to play as Brits.

I GOTS ANOTHER GUN FOR THE BRITS....THE MACHINE CARBINE...its not the American carbine and i havent seen it in the game. So .....ITS NOT HEAVY, and plus it looks cool =P.


LINK= http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-weapons/allied_ww2.htm

It was packed as bits, and then put together at the scene

Originally posted by Gomer Pile
I GOTS ANOTHER GUN FOR THE BRITS....THE MACHINE CARBINE...its not the American carbine and i havent seen it in the game. So .....ITS NOT HEAVY, and plus it looks cool =P.


LINK= http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-weapons/allied_ww2.htm

That machine carbine is the Owen, it was designed and built in Australia for service in the pacific jungles. It never saw service with the British army (perhaps very rare exceptions).

Yes, theres been 6 billion threads on this even before 1.0 came out. Im not going to
repeat everything that was said in the other threads but as a short summary:

- Yes, the British had *many* weapons available to them during the course of
the second world war.

- British Infantry tactics were different to the American and German's and didnt
have as much dependancy on an MG.

- The Vickers water cooled MG was originally from WWI. It required minimum
two people to operated it, usually three, and weighed too much. When employed it
was usually for fixed position defence and
not mobile unless carried on a vehicle.

- The Vickers K gun was used for a short period up to and just after D-Day. It was
originally designed as a weapon for aircraft and had a large magazine and
high rate of fire, perfect for shooting down enemy planes. However in an
infantry role it was too inaccurate and used ammo too quickly. The SAS and
some Airborne recce jeeps did have them fitted specifically because of its
high rate or fire - handy for hit and run raids.

- The Bren was a proper "Light Support Weapon" and suited British needs
perfectly. Unlike the BAR, having a top mounted magazine meant you could
have 30 rounds because the larger magazine didnt stick down into the
ground. It also had a slower rate of fire which made it much more accurate.

- Keep in mind when thinking of airborne forces that they guys have to
go into combat by parachute or glider where weight is critical. A water cooled
Vickers is impractical dues to its weight and the number of men required to
operate it. The Vickers K gun requires larger magazines which are cumbersome
and take up a lot of space. It also tends to waste ammo - something parachutists
dont often have a lot of.

- Jed

OK.....fine.....i guess, until maybe 2.0 i will have to wait for another gun to be put in for the Brits....O well

I've read accounts that some paras did jump with Vickers MG but they usually split it between 3 guys (1 with gun, with with tripod, one with ammo) or they dropped it in those equipment bag things.

Vickers would be a very unaccurate weapon to go running around with but I think it would be pretty cool if it could be added to maps as a fixed gun placement like the .50 cal in HL. It would probally have to be made in the map though and would therefore look ugly as hell but mabye someone will give it a go on day.

Ska

http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0200/219.htm

Thats the only possible candidate for a British MG in DoD. Although this weapon was rare on the field, as it was used in WW1 and was "obsolete" so to say. It was probably used in Africa, but i doubt youd see it in eastern Europe. The british didn't use many guns. The Bren, Sten, and Enfield were all they needed. In future releases I think the only new official british guns will be a Sten Mk.4-5 for paratrooper models, and if your lucky maybe a new pistol "Enfield No.2 Mk.1" or a "Browning HP". I wouldn't count on the handguns though.
However, if the DoD team decides to put in Canadians, you will have American and British guns put together. We used the .30 cal, the Thompson, the Sten, the Bren, the Enfield, Colt .45's, Smith and Wesson .38, and the Browning 9mm HP. Which is shown in the link below.

http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0700/771.htm

It was obsolete because they were all replaced with the forementioned Vickers.

The Dutch army used the Lewis 1914 machine gun when it was attacked by Germany in may 1940. Totally outdated weapon for that time, but the Dutch army was trained for WW1 trenchwarfare and didn't know what hit them when they experienced blitzkrieg style warfare: My grandpa told me when he was fighting near The Hague that when they saw paratroopers coming out of the sky a lot of soldiers fled and he himself didn't know what to do when he saw paratroopers, he never knew they even exsisted, he was totally shocked when he saw soldiers on parachutes jumping out airplanes and realized that those weapons the Dutch army used where no match for the modern German army. He also told me : "those paratroopers where damn fanatical when fighting and I don't like them". He still hates paratroopers, they scared the hell out of him he told me.
I never actually saw WW2 pictures of British soldiers with the Lewis machine gun.