Russian Pack, Team Needed


Vandal
06-16-2003, 07:04 PM
I've been talking with Russian WW2 re-enactor, our buddy 8th Guards, and he wants to do a Russian pack, probably skinning the English. With so many freakin' canadian packs out there you'd think one of the major powers, the entire eastern front would be somewhere, well now it will be.

Jobs so far:

Player Skins-Vandal
VGUI Selection Icons-Vandal
Hosting-Vandal
Screenshots/Art-Vandal
Historical Refrences-8th Guards
Weapon Skins-8th Guards
Weapon Sounds-8th Guards
Voice Command Sounds-8th Guards
Sound Editing-8th Guards

We need.....

Sprites-TBA
Weapon Models-TBA

So if you can model guns or do sprites PLEASE post here!

HS The Whap
06-16-2003, 07:21 PM
Its happening agian. OH NOES!

06-16-2003, 07:27 PM
DEATH TO THE FASCIST *******S! NO PRISONERS! ZA RODINU! ZA STALINO!

8th Guards, Soviet Great Patriotic War Re-enactor (http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/8thGuards1.jpg)

Sturmtruppe
06-16-2003, 07:33 PM
"Gimmie ten days and i'll have us a war with those russian sons of bithces and i'll make it look like they started it!"

-George C. Scott as General George S. Patton

Divium
06-16-2003, 07:33 PM
u are teh sexiest ruskie i've evah seen lol :p

Rusky pack sounds great. Get at it.


and just what's wrong with having so many canadian packs? >:|

Sclass12
06-16-2003, 07:38 PM
NO MERCY FOR COWARDS!!!! (Open fires)

Vandal
06-16-2003, 07:45 PM
I appreciate all the intrest, folks but as a humble request.

Less usless movie quotes and russian phrases

More "I'm a modeler!" "I can do sprites!"

Please? thanks. ;)

gabagoo
06-16-2003, 07:51 PM
get the player models done and the rest will follow;)

Die Schlampfe
06-16-2003, 08:01 PM
I might can help with the sounds if 8th needs it. I may be an amateur but I'd love to help out if you need it.

Plastic Fantastic Lover
06-16-2003, 08:06 PM
I know how to use Photoshop.

:cool:

06-16-2003, 08:26 PM
If anyone can help shoot me an e-mail: zorakfan1@aol.com ( AOL sux), and we'll sort things out. I don't want to be the only voice shouting stuff in Russian, so that would be aweosme, Die Schlampfe (don't worry, I'll teach you). If anyone wants some pics and whatnot posted (other than ones with me, I mean), lemme know, I can get it done.

Wren
06-16-2003, 08:43 PM
You actualy get a gun? No ammo then I would assume.

06-16-2003, 09:27 PM
The whole no ammo/every other man gets a gun is a common misconception. That only applied to penal battalions.

Plastic Fantastic Lover
06-16-2003, 10:15 PM
If you're looking for authentic reference photos, go to the Hulton Archives. (http://www.hultonarchive.com) Gigantic selection of photos from all eras of time.

Cheeto
06-16-2003, 11:36 PM
I've been working on this since Beta 1.3. I have weapon models (going to release meshes soon), TT-33, Nagant pistol, Mosin Nagant, PPSh-41, DP-28, PPS-43, F-1, and a Russian scout knife. I also have anims for most of these and I'm animating the ones I haven't already. I have a paratrooper model made by Trigger that looks great ingame, and Devin I sent an assload of player model reference pics to so he's making some models and equipment for me. I'm also modelling a Maxim and SG-43 (which I'll use for the .30 Cal, I'm not sure). And I have some voice comms that are missing only a few phrases that were added to 1.0 (like the Bazooka commands). As well as who the hell knows how many reference pics of troops, guns, and equipment. I also have some good sounds (got the PPSh-41 to sound like it's running at about 1000RPM) and a console and main menu interface (thanks to Colonel Klink), and some older but accurate Soviet and German sniper sprites. What else do we need?

Cheeto
06-16-2003, 11:47 PM
Ack, I suppose I should say what I do need.

I need weapon skins, player models (that's being handled by Devin), and player skins. As well as the sprites and a HUD.

gabagoo
06-16-2003, 11:53 PM
alls you guys have to do is finish the player models and im sure that will inspire lots more people to do other little things.

conclusion 1 we need triggar :D

Cheeto
06-17-2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by gabagoo
alls you guys have to do is finish the player models and im sure that will inspire lots more people to do other little things.

conclusion 1 we need triggar :D What's wrong with Devin doing player models?

gabagoo
06-17-2003, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Cheeto
What's wrong with Devin doing player models?
:o oh i didnt know he was doing them

Cheeto
06-17-2003, 12:20 AM
*shrugs* Up until the release of Beta 1.0 the player models I had were just hackjobs themselves. I COULD use those for the player models, but since they're based on the older DoD models, then they're lower poly and don't look quite as good, so I was hoping to get some new player models.

Mr.Russian
06-17-2003, 12:23 AM
I would love to help but never tried game related programming. Nevertheless, here you can find a lot of original war posters for Russian maps: http://poster.genstab.ru/ww2_sov01.htm

Also pm me if you need any history related research done.

gabagoo
06-17-2003, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by Cheeto
*shrugs* Up until the release of Beta 1.0 the player models I had were just hackjobs themselves. I COULD use those for the player models, but since they're based on the older DoD models, then they're lower poly and don't look quite as good, so I was hoping to get some new player models.
in that case all you need to do is reskin the axis medium_body because it has the boots and the top of the body looks pretty close too and then a russian helmet some gear and your done:)

btw this is what i was in middle of doing a few days ago :p but i couldnt find a russian helmet so i gave up, also the reskin looked alittle strange lol

edit/ heres some pics :
http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/USSR_17.jpg
http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/USSR_25.jpg
http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/USSR_26.jpg
http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/USSR_27.jpg

sCk
06-17-2003, 02:16 AM
I colaborate in the "illegal" 3.1 soviet pack.
Talk with Ripa for the weapon models, he have some (same the DP)
It will be good to a soviet conversion for the brits, because theirs weapons are more similar to the soviet ones than the american.

Knife > I dont know :X

Webley > TT 33 (http://www.dodrules.net/descargas/p...ion=file&id=320)

Enfield > Mosin Nagant (Ripa's model or MoH model) (http://dodec.dodstudios.net/filedb/...tion=file&id=77 // http://www.dodrules.net/descargas/p...ion=file&id=322)

Sten > PPSH 41 (we can convert the MoH: SpearHead model )(or we can re-origin and re-skin the cheeto's ppsh)

Enfield scoped > Mosin Nagant scoped (http://dodec.dodstudios.net/filedb/...ion=file&id=194)(or Ripa's models with the scope of MoH model)

Bren > DP (Ripa's model RULES)(convert to bren :])

Mills grenade > RGD-33 (A simple hackjob for the german grenate, to convert in a russian nade: http://www.inert-ord.net/russ02i/rgd33/ )

The player models are in the 3.1 pack. Jove did it, he's a friend, and he dont have problems if we use his models, its looks good, only a few new details and conversion to 1.0
The mapmodels was included in the 3.1 pack, we have tanks, etc modifcated.
The sprites, also in the 3.1 pack
I aslo think that will be awesome to contact with some mappers and inclide 2 o 3 maps of russian front (stalingrad... a open wide map... etc)(lol imagine a Xerent stalingrad map !!! o.O! xD)
What do you think?

Trigger
06-17-2003, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by gabagoo
alls you guys have to do is finish the player models and im sure that will inspire lots more people to do other little things.

conclusion 1 we need triggar :D

I already have contributed to Cheeto's Russian pack, I made boots, helmets, fuzzy hats, and even a player model that doesn't look half bad for something that took entirely too long to finish. That, I'm afraid, is going to be the limit of my involvement in your little project. I give you my support though, and if you ever need it, I can always do little things that the rest of you think you can't do, like minor model or texture stuff.

gabagoo
06-17-2003, 03:46 AM
trigger please check you PM:)

06-17-2003, 06:33 AM
I'm thinking the uniforms should be the summer issue ones. The TT 33 is a greta pistol, but I wonder if a Mosin-Nagant 1895 revolver would be easier to do, since the Webley is a revolver too. I can skin weapons and do sounds, but I'd like to see what everyone else has since there seems to be so many out there with stuff.

Genie
06-17-2003, 06:57 AM
Hey 8th Guards, I'll fill in all the sprites and do a fair amount of the skinning for you. I would love to work on a Russian pack. :)

ripa
06-17-2003, 07:12 AM
All my mosin nagant needs now are new animations :O I'll try to get something done :F

Cheeto
06-17-2003, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by 8thGuards
I'm thinking the uniforms should be the summer issue ones. The TT 33 is a greta pistol, but I wonder if a Mosin-Nagant 1895 revolver would be easier to do, since the Webley is a revolver too. *shrugs*I've got both pistols, and I intend to use both. I'm replacing BOTH the US and British (as well as paratroops) with Russian equipment. And if whoever can skin weapons can contact me over one of the messengers (logana@starband.net, the rest are in my profile) then we can prolly get something done quick.

Vandal
06-17-2003, 09:28 AM
Easy does it, cheeto-man.

Cool stuff, but I'd like to only do the brits for Russian. I need to find some decent player models to skin, and I'll host. Me and 8th were gonna figure out the models skins and sounds and whatnot, but your help is much appreciated.

I figue we'll communicate with yahoo for 2 reasons:

Confrence and Voice

get Yahoo! if your intrested, my name is skullz_vandal

Lets get discussion going and I'll start skinning as soon as I get the refrences 8th wants me to use and a halfway decent model.

Mr.Russian
06-17-2003, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by 8thGuards
I'm thinking the uniforms should be the summer issue ones. The TT 33 is a greta pistol, but I wonder if a Mosin-Nagant 1895 revolver would be easier to do, since the Webley is a revolver too...

Do you realize how Nagant revolver is reloaded? You need to push every used casing out seperately. That would be a pretty lengthy animation I guess.

Russ. Conscript
06-17-2003, 10:59 AM
id love to help out with this big project, it looks as though weve finally gotten enough people interested, as well as cheeto him self. wichw ould be a big boost to the project with what he already has done.

I can skin player models, and weapons. i just started with weapons.. so im OK. but as far as player models goes... ive done player skinning for a while, so if you need help in that area, im your man.

Vandal
06-17-2003, 11:10 AM
Please attain Yahoo! messenger and post your Yahoo! ID here if you wish to participate.

Cheeto
06-17-2003, 11:14 AM
Not everyone wants Yahoo, though. We all have the PM system and email, here's my contact info:

AIM: BigCheeto44
ICQ: 78851625
Yahoo: cheesyfinger2k1
Email/MSN: logana@starband.net

Plastic Fantastic Lover
06-17-2003, 11:51 AM
Looks like you guys are getting some great talent together:

GenieD
Devin Kryss
Ripa
Russ. Conscript
8th Guards

Sorry I didn't include ya Vandal, but I haven't seen any of your work. :p

See if you can get Vandori to do player skins. He does absolutely phenomenal work in skinning. *cough*, you're good too 8th guards.

Cheeto, I think just converting the Brits is fine. Maybe the reason this pack has been a WIP since b1.3 is because you bit off more than you can chew.

Cheeto
06-17-2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Cath0de
Cheeto, I think just converting the Brits is fine. Maybe the reason this pack has been a WIP since b1.3 is because you bit off more than you can chew. The reason it's been WIP for so long is because no one wanted to stay around to finish it aside from me. Everyone disspapeared before I could get their work in. And I want to convert the US as well because A)I'm not doing this job halfway, and B)most of the maps are US anyways. Besides, don't you want to storm to beaches at Charlie with the Ruskies?

Plastic Fantastic Lover
06-17-2003, 12:12 PM
Honestly, Cheeto, no.

I would not like to storm the beaches with the Russkies.

I'm all about historical accuracy, and most of the Brit maps translate well over to the Russian front. They're all blown up/burned out cities, except for Flash, which can be a small Russian town on the steppes.

American maps like Charlie, Glider, etc, don't make sense for the Russians.

Cheeto
06-17-2003, 12:33 PM
*shrugs* Well then you and anyone else can just delete the American content, but I'd like to do the whole thing to make into a proper 'Eastern Front' warfare mod. It wouldn't take a whole lot of extra work, just 3 more guns and two more player skins, if you even bother with the extra skins and just change equipment.

Vandal
06-17-2003, 12:51 PM
I'm not very good. hehe. With all the playerskinners here, I may step out and just host the download, do the screen shot art and provide the victory song, maybe make an offical spray and organize it. You know, make sure everyone is moving along. Cheeto I'm adding you to my Y! list now.

06-17-2003, 06:03 PM
I'd love to know what this poster says:

http://poster.genstab.ru/images/ww2_sov032_41_A_Voloshin.jpg


And BTW, I think that belt and buckle posted a couple posts back might be from a Republic or maybe Afghanistan, I remeber they had an image of the crescent moon and fire on it. Looks like a similar logo on the buckle. I think WWII Russian officers belts might be different.

gabagoo
06-17-2003, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Macphisto
And BTW, I think that belt and buckle posted a couple posts back might be from a Republic or maybe Afghanistan, I remeber they had an image of the crescent moon and fire on it. Looks like a similar logo on the buckle. I think WWII Russian officers belts might be different.
lol its not a afghanistan belt :p but i forgot to mention that it was a part of a soldiers parade marching uniform

06-17-2003, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by gabagoo
lol its not a afghanistan belt :p but i forgot to mention that it was a part of a soldiers parade marching uniform Well I did recognise it as an officers parade belt. It just looked unusual.

06-17-2003, 08:00 PM
Russian World War Two belts were so damned varied. Actually, everything they had was so damned varied. A lot of post-war Russian stuff is exactly the same. They even still use the same helmet!

About the Moisin-Nagant Pistol, sure it would be a lengthy animation, but I would still rather see that. however, I won't complain if everyone thinks it would be better to have a TT 33.

Here's my yahoo id: cigichj

It's also a good idea to shoot me an e-mail: zorakfan1@aol.com (AOL SUX) Actually, shooting me an e-mail is the best thing.

Hey, lets make these skins a Guards unit! They kicked ass!

I'm in the 8th Guards Mechanized, hence my name.....

06-17-2003, 08:16 PM
If anyone cares, I've got a short video clip on my computer of me un-jamming my MN 91/30 during a battle re-enactment. Eventually I get it un-jammed and pop a round off. I just need a host for it. Who could do it?

A funny thing, though. Another guy and myself were the only Russians there, so we kinda end up fighting alongside some 101st guys in their D-Day stuff (so I don't know why one is carrying a BAR...)

Russ. Conscript
06-17-2003, 09:12 PM
Heres my contact info

e-mail: esteen@adelphia.net

AIM: SoYo256

look forward to workin on it..

RealyPssd
06-17-2003, 11:05 PM
I could do weapon select and death message sprites if you want :)

Vandal
06-17-2003, 11:28 PM
I got class selection. But thanks.

We need people for weapon sprites, player IDs and map sprites.

sCk
06-18-2003, 02:31 AM
have you read my post? (page 2...)

06-18-2003, 06:27 AM
Since everyone is throwing stuff out, let's have another list of who's who and doing what for this pack. That should clear some stuff up, because I don't know who's doing what now....

Vandal
06-18-2003, 09:13 AM
Please, folks don't missunderstand, half the fun of this is doing it ourselves. We don't want to use other people's older stuff. They can reconvert the pack to 1.0, we want to make a new one.

Lets make a list.


Vandal-Selection VGUI, Hosting, Model screenshot art

8th Guards-Historical Reff, Command Sounds, Gun sounds

That is ALL I know for sure, alot of people made noise about being good skinners, so post examples of your work and we'll delegate who does weapons, and who does playerskins. We need someone to do the map/objective/kill sprites.

I am making a new thread, post ALL Your stuff there reguardless of weather you've posted or not thus far.

Cheeto
06-18-2003, 09:31 AM
Like I said, I just need skinners (going to release my weapon meshes soon) and a player modeller. I've got sounds, I can do sprites (or likely hand it off to ReallyPssd), and I've got the weapon models and anims.

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