screenshot:
http://www.geocities.com/whiskas_tuna2000/dod_awp_map.txt

download:
http://dodstuff.houstondod.com/downloads/dod_awp_map.zip

Any dumb replies will be reported to a mod.

this is not a map.

Must have taken HOURS to map. Didnt even have to come up with the concept. Might be kinda fun to play though , woulda been better if it was Kars and Enfields , no scopes.

wtf

no overview...come on

Wheres the storyline?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......

you could adleast call it dod_springfield_kar_map

yeah....nnooo. This wont work anyway. people move really slow when zoomed remeber? And jumping takes a lot out of you. So what you'll basically have. Is just guys coming out of a corner...and either A: jumping, then crounching(probably, and this is where they will most likely get shot). then gunned down(assuming someones crouched by bunker like theere always is..

or B: walkin out with scope, then getting shot down...

It will be no where near as intense or as quick as the CS version...

And make an oveview like saidbefore atleast

Well, do you know why i started play dod?

1...Because i like WWII
2...Because i was starting to HATE CS!!!
3...Because i needed the REALISM...

Please find a combination on how this can be realistic...

Any dumb replies will be reported to a mod.

oh, you'll think they'll care? Go search for a post called PARA_iceworld2, nothing but bashes and insults for the most part....

WoW you have L33t $kills


:D

i mean not even the dev team could make this map.

(sarcasm);)

it doesnt have an overview because in the spirit of every CS map, it was built for pure deathmatch.


you want a story?

once upon a time a group of yankees and germans met in a german town called awp_map. the town was poor so they only had a few houses, and the houses were so crappy they didnt have doors and were just mounds of bricks. the people of awp_map liked to collect sniper rifles and lay them in a neat row on either end of the town and let the yankees and germans pick up the sniper rifles and kill each other over and over again. the end.


as for effort:
the map took me so friggin long to make, I spent 5 min doing brush/textures/entities and then it took me 2 seconds to compile it. but i forgot to put the friggin lighting in so I had to wait 2 seconds again for it to compile

crap that is awsome story line must say..;)

1st. There is no AWP in Dod.

2nd. You suck.

This thread should be reported to a mod RIGHT NOW.

Judging by his own response he posted it as a joke.
SO LAY THE F--K OFF!

There is no need to be imature about this.

Yes the map took 5min he acknoweldges that
Yes it too k no skill he mentioned that
And he also came up with a mighty fine story ;)

ITS A JOKE PEOPLE LAUGH WITH HIM!!

(I actually found it rather funny when I saw his reply)

Originally posted by Instacrome
2nd. You suck.

You too.

Originally posted by -iNw-Andy
This isn't a joke. This was done out of spite. I bet "someone" asked Whiskas to make this map.
Jokes are supposed to be funny...this is an absolute waste of bandwidth.

I think some people will know what I truly meant by that.

Yep, it aint rocket science to add 2 and 2 ....

To all of the flamers, stop attacking this fellow. However improbable, some people actually like these kinds of maps, especially on LAN events.

Almost no effort went into this map, but it is a properly compiled map, even though it's only a box with big cylinders.

I think it could've been made alot better visually. I strongly suggest that Whiskas makes another version of this that has better visual features.

Personally I think it's one of the ugliest maps I've ever seen. I'd love to play this map if it didnt look like crap.

:rolleyes:

The CS version is better. :)

I wouldnt play this kind of map but lol.. i love the story line :D.
dont dis the person cos they made a map very easy to make.

Originally posted by Instacrome
You suck.

Quit the personal bashing. Seriously. Whiskas has every right to make and present his creations without being flamed apart.

Originally posted by Kraut-Killer
You too.

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by xerent
Quit the personal bashing. Seriously. Whiskas has every right to make and present his creations without being flamed apart.



:rolleyes:



Hmmmm, that sounds pretty hypocritical.

Usually that kind of sentiment I understand...but for something that looks like this...it begs to be burned. "This" being the map of course...I can't comment on the mapper, I don't know him. As for the argument that because a lot of CS players play it then it must be good...well no, not exactly, the people who play it might not have the same judgement or experience in mapping. Popularity and "goodness" are different. There are great maps that many people don't know about, and there are some maps that are played to death that just plain suck.

To Wiskas: Cool beans man! I never liked awp_map, becuase I don't like the AWP, but I LOVE the KAR and Springfield, so I'm sure I'd adore this map! I'm gonna get it on my server ASAP!

To Everyone Else: I suggest you all obtain some class., just becuase you don't like a game, or a concept dosn't mean it sucks, any time spent doing something that adds to the community is something worth at least a "hey, nice effort, man" and not a "your map sucks" Thats impolite. Besides, its more than half of us could do.

But the map does indeed suck. You see, it is not a good map. At all. Its a box, with some blocks. And sniper rifles on the ground.
That does not make it a good map.

Neither is it a "good try", nor does it add anything to Dod. Its digital poo.

Thank you and goodbye.

It's so funny to watch you guys go at it. Relax, enjoy life, go outside because remember, there are many other and more important things in life.

Chill out.

Peace.

-Plato

Good work m8.

That's a nice map for my lan events with my friends. Thanks.

:)

I think some folks Sarcasm Meters need a tune-up.

Not my style of maps, even if it is ugly, done as a joke, made to see what reaction happens, or you really wanted to release and see who would want it. I never liked sniping in CS and in DoD it'd be too easy to pick off people.

Now if someone made that Bunker map from Rogue Spear for DoD, now we're talking. That map was great for 4 on 4 deathmatch. Using that layout with DoD's textures and models would be nice.

I don't know what your intentions were Whiskas, either way doesn't really matter. You seem to be having both sides going.

P.S. Still using that giant cat food can player model?

Originally posted by BunLengthHotDog
I think some folks Sarcasm Meters need a tune-up.
sarcasm is tough to pick up through text...not only that, this would be poor sarcasm, I don't think it's the reciever that's messed here it's the signal.

omg faceman, that level was awsome.. i use to play it all the time and id love to see thatmap made for dod.. :D!

Needs an overview to lag it up to make it true CS style.

Andy, i know what your talking about. :p

wtf this isnt awm_map. This is para_iceworld3

:D

I think it's cool...

Am I sick or something? :confused:

mayB turn it into a nades only, or spade only map???:D

this is not a map, stop the cs influence please!!!

Well, Ill add it to my server for the my next LAN-party, I think it will work fine! (no sarcasm!)

And the strange thing is... if we dont like it, we dont have to play it :eek: (But I bet we will like it!)

Originally posted by |Lister|
Hmmmm, that sounds pretty hypocritical.

One can better himself, no? Hulk Bogan did have some valid points and I do try to better myself.

My only explanation for what happened in the iceworld thread was my lack of experience of what to do in such a situation that had never prior presented itself. I've given it lot of thought and came to the conclusion that the personal bashes must stop.

I'm sorry about the bashes.

Originally posted by Quakah
this is not a map, stop the cs influence please!!!

You don't have to play it if you don't want to! Cheer up. :)

Originally posted by Ginger Lord
Needs an overview to lag it up to make it true CS style.

Andy, i know what your talking about. :p

wtf this isnt awm_map. This is para_iceworld3

:D

I must ask all of you to try to crank up the level of discussion a bit. I've realized that such comments are valid in IRC, not on a public forum. Face it people, Hulk Bogan might have a wierd way of saying things that included very long posts and alot of bad words, but bottom line, he was right. We were all a bunch of flamers and we should better ourselves.

arrrrrggggggg STOP MAPS like THAT!!!

This isn´t a map, you built 5 brushes and changed sky!

Originally posted by kleinluka
this is not a map.

I 2nd that and i must say all these "people" making these cs conversions for dod are hurting dod alot

We need more real maps, no more 7 brush "maps" that should be in tfc not dod

Originally posted by NC17
I 2nd that and i must say all these "people" making these cs conversions for dod are hurting dod alot

We need more real maps, no more 7 brush "maps" that should be in tfc not dod


You are right, it´s my opinion too!!!

I agree, if you wanna map, make a real map! Not a cs conversion, because there lame and they do not work well in dod. But, good effort non the less. :D

To Everyone Else: I suggest you all obtain some class., just becuase you don't like a game, or a concept dosn't mean it sucks, any time spent doing something that adds to the community is something worth at least a "hey, nice effort, man" and not a "your map sucks" Thats impolite. Besides, its more than half of us could do.

I'm not gonna say cs sucks because its a great game, just a different style than dod. I will, however, say that maps such as iceworld and all that sorta thing, don't belong in either game. And if the other half of people tried, then I'm fairly sure they could make this map.

I agree with NC17, the bottom line is that maps like this don't add to the community, they hurt it. If you wanna go play a lan game, there are much better maps to do it on, like dod_risk. Thats a great map for a lan, or dod_ralleigh, or so many others. Maps like this hurt the community because the maps that people actually put time into get shafted when people decide to go play a map such as this that could be done in even under 5 minutes. But posting this kind of map isn't helping out, and its only gonna spark everyone's frustrations and fears about dod becoming another cs.

Originally posted by NC17
I 2nd that and i must say all these "people" making these cs conversions for dod are hurting dod alot

We need more real maps, no more 7 brush "maps" that should be in tfc not dod

People don't hurt dod by making bad maps. If you don't like the maps, you don't have to play them. So there's no need to bash people.

lol @ this map, this thread and everyone defending this kind of maps. bye

Some people take stuff a little to seriously...

Originally posted by Rotkopf
lol @ this map, this thread and everyone defending this kind of maps. bye

Now that's very constructive :mad:

People don't hurt dod by making bad maps. If you don't like the maps, you don't have to play them. So there's no need to bash people.

I would like to point out that I'm not gonna bash anyone, but I also disagree with what you said. Well, kinda. There are bad maps, and there are these maps. Bad maps don't catch on, for some reason these do. And then people don't play good maps.

People say these are good on lan eh? Well people say that about flash. This map and this kind of map is gonna take people away from playing your map that you worked hard on. Can you really say that doesn't anger you at all?

not really since flash is a great map and is played often.

I dont like this kind of map nor would i play it but theres no point bashing the ppl who make it..it wont achieve anything

Xerent i think u should lock/delete this thread since it is just making a big augument.

u guys dont want to make dod to be like cs..then STOP flaming and turning this forum into a CS forum..we are a dod comunity..not cs

Flash is a great map, I totally agree, but some people just don't have the sense to realize that a more perfectly crafted map beats any one of these style maps and it takes away from people playing it.

u guys dont want to make dod to be like cs..then STOP flaming and turning this forum into a CS forum..we are a dod comunity..not cs

In this lies the ultimate irony, by trying to be different we just bring ourselves closer. I agree, lock this thread.

Hmm, interesting, I dont have a saying in what I think is good or bad.

me - I like icecream with vanilla flavour!
flamer - NO! YOU DONT, strawberry-flavour is better!!!
me - OK :confused:

Dont like it? Dont play it! Someone else like it: let them be miserable with a, in your oppinion, worthless vanilla-flavour.

Still gonna try it out, for variety, at the next LAN-party.

Originally posted by Whoopy42
I would like to point out that I'm not gonna bash anyone, but I also disagree with what you said. Well, kinda. There are bad maps, and there are these maps. Bad maps don't catch on, for some reason these do. And then people don't play good maps.

People say these are good on lan eh? Well people say that about flash. This map and this kind of map is gonna take people away from playing your map that you worked hard on. Can you really say that doesn't anger you at all?

let me retake that for a while

you have bad maps and you have these kinds of maps.

you can't really blame the intention of a mapper if he made a map because he like that particular gameplay. Whiskas made it as a joke but the para_icethingy was made with the best of intentions because the mapper wanted to do something new.

What about effort? Some people make these kind of maps because they're new at it and this is already a challenge to them. What an experienced mapper can make in five minutes took them two days to figure out. (setting up hammer, compiling, reading up, etc.)

Most of the times: bad maps are made by people who either don't have the talent for mapping or are completly new. The map is bad but the people who made this map had the best intentions or are so new that it was quite an effort for them to make it.

Then you have this kind of map two/three brushes, no lighting and that's it. What are the intentions of the mapper? Some really wanted to make a 'fun' 'non-realistic' map or a 'training map' and others just made something so they can say "hell, I'm a mapper, I made a map so now call me a mapper" The para_icethingy map is made by mapper who had the best of intentions when he made that map (making something fun), my guess is that he didn't want to brag 'look my leet mapskills'. Finally you have whiskas who made this map to make a statement against those same maps.

Finally, you have people who really want to map but don't have the experience or who played years of CS and some dod. They notice dod doesn't have an "awp-type" map and they make something like this because it's easy to make and just like in CS could give them instant success.

Now, untill now there are VERY few awp-type maps for DoD. I would start to complain and bash 'em if every mapping n00b would start to make such a map and post them saying: look at my leet fun map, download it and play it on your servers.


PS: flash ownz!!! :p

Originally posted by Inch
let me retake that for a while

you have bad maps and you have these kinds of maps.

you can't really blame the intention of a mapper if he made a map because he like that particular gameplay. Whiskas made it as a joke but the para_icethingy was made with the best of intentions because the mapper wanted to do something new.

What about effort? Some people make these kind of maps because they're new at it and this is already a challenge to them. What an experienced mapper can make in five minutes took them two days to figure out. (setting up hammer, compiling, reading up, etc.)

Most of the times: bad maps are made by people who either don't have the talent for mapping or are completly new. The map is bad but the people who made this map had the best intentions or are so new that it was quite an effort for them to make it.

Then you have this kind of map two/three brushes, no lighting and that's it. What are the intentions of the mapper? Some really wanted to make a 'fun' 'non-realistic' map or a 'training map' and others just made something so they can say "hell, I'm a mapper, I made a map so now call me a mapper" The para_icethingy map is made by mapper who had the best of intentions when he made that map (making something fun), my guess is that he didn't want to brag 'look my leet mapskills'. Finally you have whiskas who made this map to make a statement against those same maps.

Finally, you have people who really want to map but don't have the experience or who played years of CS and some dod. They notice dod doesn't have an "awp-type" map and they make something like this because it's easy to make and just like in CS could give them instant success.

Now, untill now there are VERY few awp-type maps for DoD. I would start to complain and bash 'em if every mapping n00b would start to make such a map and post them saying: look at my leet fun map, download it and play it on your servers.


PS: flash ownz!!! :p

Well said! :)

But I like these kinds of maps with fun gameplay. Crap, I made dod_aim and dod_aim2. I just dont like when these kinds of maps look like crap. I tried to make my fun maps look good before i released them.

on a less serious level of discussion:

I'll be releasing kar_map shortly, made in 5 mins with dust textures only! ;)

I was somewhat confused by that Inch :) , but I think we're seeing each other at pretty much the same level.

I know he made this as a joke, or just to get people angry, which is stupid in the first place. But its something we have to talk about because its a serious issue and you can see people are taking this seriously.

Here is my advice to new mappers: go ahead, ask questions, get all the help you can. People on here are usually friendly if you know what you're asking and you can't find it elsewhere. But... people aren't gonna be friendly when you release a map like this. Even if it took a little effort. Regardless, people put their time into maps, and there's a way of going about the community and getting better that will help you in the long run. If you make a map like this for the experience, fine, go ahead, but do not release it. Just use what you learn to help you make a REAL map in the future. My first completed map was far more complex than this style of map, and took me a lot longer, and was a higher quality, but I didn't release it because I realize that there is a standard of quality that should be met. So, I'm saying, if you're a newb mapper, go for it, make this map, even play with some friends if you really want, but no releasing on these boards.



I'll be releasing kar_map shortly

That's quite dissapointing to hear, you already released aim and mini-dust, leave maps like this to newbs and make a real map with your talent.

Originally posted by Instacrome
1st. There is no AWP in Dod.

2nd. You suck.

email rozdower@rozdower.com

Originally posted by Whoopy42
That's quite dissapointing to hear, you already released aim and mini-dust, leave maps like this to newbs and make a real map with your talent.

You need to tune your irony-meter. I put "on a less serious level of discussion" infront of it and a ;) smiley afterwards. Still you don't get it.

I HATE AWP_MAPS!!

Just read my own post again.

i'm studying for an exam tommorow... explains a lot about my writing style :p

You need to tune your irony-meter. I put "on a less serious level of discussion" infront of it and a smiley afterwards. Still you don't get it.

Irony meter? You think I need to tune my irony meter? I'll show you irony.

Originally posted by Whiskas
This map makes dod cry


In the para_iceworld thread


True I did miss your joke, but m8, you did release aim2.. you could be serious about this :p

Whiskas im behind ya man! u do alot of good work in MSA and MSA guys shud stick together against *******s in the maps forum, thanks MODs for too stickin up for him. Whiskas if u want, im workin on a map of Arnhem Bridge from a bridge too far... if ya want we can team up? ill help with ure mapping if ya want and ure welcome to also have input in anythin i create too. personaly i wouldnt bother posting any WIP or RELs in this forum, too many *******s. but contact me if ya want to pool ideas dude, u do good stuff. and keep up the mapping no ****er gives anyone else support around here.

Originally posted by Dances w Wolves
Whiskas im behind ya man! u do alot of good work in MSA and MSA guys shud stick together against *******s in the maps forum,
If you feel that way then stick to the msa forums where all the little kiddies can stick together releasing their uncredited "hackjobs" and stay out of the mapping forums.

Your comment was ugly and unjustified. There is no need for that here. I also realize part of my reply is too, but I just can't keep this kind of post civil.

Dances w wolves, if u dont like this forum then dont post here.

He never said he didn't like these forums, what he said was that many posters here are *******s.

Newsflash:

THEY ARE.

Why you gotta bash on a guy who just made a map? Say something nice, or don't say anything at all. He didn't make something offensive, where the objective is to kill off people based on race, or religion or something, he just made a silly, fun map. You all need like, horse seditives or something, just be a bit nicer, and maybe these flame wars wouldn't happen...I'd suggest this topic be closed. Its on fire.

:D :D :D !!!!!!!!!

OMGZ!!!!!!! I AM PRIVATE(1) AND I AM A 1337 MAPZORZ! I MADE THIS MAP PARA_MANTRAIN AND NAMED IT AFTER MY TWO FAVORITE THINGS MEN AND TRAINS AND I AM RELEASEING IT HERE BECAUSE I THINK YOU WILL LIKE IT IT IS LIKE AWP_MAP BUT IT IS CALLED MANTRAIN.

I AM DEDICATING IT TO MY FAVORITE MAPPER XERENT AND I USED HIS TEXTURES AND NOW IM A MAPPER TOO JUST LIKE HIM!!!!!

http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/para_mantrain.jpg

JUMPON THE MAINTRAIN HERE!!!! (http://www.dodmaps.com/maps/para_mantrain.zip)




And if this isn't sarcastic and ironic enough, I don't know how to make it clearer.

OI! AND ITS HOSSTED BY DODMAPS.COM OH MY GAWD I HAEV A STIFF ONE AND I LIKE MEN AND TRAINS TOO.

OMG THIAS = WIN I R SUPPORTIN JOO ASS PRIVATE

You guys are soooo funny.

I'm closing this thread now, because people can't handle that some people actually likes to play awp_maps, and I think that's sad.