Preview: dod_foxley
Edit: as xerent bawled me out ;) I post my screens here. Sorry xerent, I'll be careful next time. :D
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Poopy Butt
06-11-2003, 06:45 PM
Well, nice for only 60% complete :eek:
I would suggest making it more like the show on the History Channel about this operation. First, make Hitler's home bigger, and not under the tree canopy, but more out in the open. Secondly, It seems a little too dark for the Swiss Alps.
TheNomad
06-11-2003, 06:47 PM
lol hitler... have you got a hitler modle or wont he be seen.
the map looks very nice.. bunker a bit small, the house is very nice and the village is good, but put more shrubs in the village!
Theres a hitler model already in DoD man...Anyway it looks nice. I like the village, though it could use some more foliage. Godd work. Keep us updated.
Sly Assassin
06-11-2003, 08:35 PM
nice work man, looking good :D
Wittman80
06-11-2003, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by TheNomad
put more shrubs in the village!
Yes, and make sure you place one next another, only slightly higher so we get the 'two-level effect' with a little path running down the middle.
RPGreg2600
06-11-2003, 11:46 PM
What're you gonna do, have hitler moving on a func_train and then when he's shot it ends the round?
How about just having hitler in a room thats hard to get to, and just having him killed be the end. In other words, make a tank defend map, but instead of tanks, replace them with hitler and put them in a room....
Zweett00th
06-12-2003, 01:04 AM
That would be cool indeed
Smitty
06-12-2003, 01:11 AM
with a little path running down the middle
A path! A path!
Originally posted by Winnebago
How about just having hitler in a room thats hard to get to, and just having him killed be the end. In other words, make a tank defend map, but instead of tanks, replace them with hitler and put them in a room....
That's already done!!! As I said I've been compelled to modify the story to give a lil more fun to the gameplay. i.e I put Hitler's mdl in the tearoom near the axis spawn in the village (instead of having him walking down a path to the village->too simple to kill him with a sniper IMHO. I had to make this hard choice). It's kinda infiltration mission.
Hitler is the last (but not least) objective and IS hard to get to. His death ends the round but to get to him you've got to cap the bunker then the Berghoff.
@Poopy Butt: 60% complete is an estimation considering what I want to do and the work to be done. i.e there are some modifications on the way!!! :) And, well, I know it's not in the forest...
@TheNomad/Wittman80: yeah sure there will be more shrubs it's early screenies so the map is quite empty.
@Smitty: i've tried that option first and (mayB I didn't do it well) it'was to easy to kill Hitler -> infltrating the village is a fun job IMHO.
Thx guys for the replies you're great (and sorry for my poor english:rolleyes: )
I'll keep you updated.
Craftos
06-12-2003, 05:37 AM
Making realistic outdoor rural/forest area is very hard in HL. dod_forest defends itself cause there is only forest (spawn areas doesn't count, no action is going here). So I would advice to add more bushes in forest areas, "double tree line" edge walls and definitely make road edges less sharp. You could try to make custom texture here blending between grass and road texture. This is general rule in such map. Nature-simulating brushes should show least possible sharp edges between them.
looks good so far, but the town looks to straight, i mean no small hills. But if you can fix this , your map is quite good! :D
-iNw-Andy
06-12-2003, 08:39 AM
I hope you have a good objective icon for Hitler :)
Rotkopf
06-12-2003, 08:57 AM
Last time I commented on Hitler in a video game I got banned from these forums. Only one thing : This map aint realistic, but judging from the screens it seems to be a serious project, so gl with it. I´m just not into this "OMG I KILLAD HITLAR OMG OMG I R ALLIED CHRIST SUPERSTAR" thing.
Kraut-Killer
06-12-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Rotkopf
Last time I commented on Hitler in a video game I got banned from these forums. Only one thing : This map aint realistic, but judging from the screens it seems to be a serious project, so gl with it. I´m just not into this "OMG I KILLAD HITLAR OMG OMG I R ALLIED CHRIST SUPERSTAR" thing.
same here. and its not
berghoff, its berghof.
xerent
06-12-2003, 10:35 AM
You might want to switch Hitler for a Wehrmacht general or something, because I'd really really HATE to play as axis on that map... being forced to defend hitler. That's something I can never do.
Zweett00th
06-12-2003, 10:52 AM
Yeah he's got a point there...
Just make 2 versions :) a hitler version and a general version and then ppl can download the version they want
Plato
06-12-2003, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Zweett00th
Yeah he's got a point there...
and a scary avatar...
go off from that hitler ****! Nobody should fight for such a fool.
Also in a video game!
Wittman80
06-12-2003, 01:16 PM
perhaps a hitler hunt is more in order, one guy has to play as hitler while the other 31 players are allies hunting him down
ender
06-12-2003, 01:18 PM
I'd hate to see this turned into a huge debate and if it happens I for one will not participate. But I think you guys are forgetting this is a video game. Is that not why we play video games? To be able to simulate activities that are practically impossible, unrealistic or dangerous in real life?
This is not real life, you would not really be defending the real Hitler. It's a 3d model coded into the game... You are defending a 3d model in a game that is made to look like Hitler, That's all.
Maybe i'm not exactly clear on why one wouldn't want to. And as always I am open to both point of views. Just give it some thought...
Cool down guys I hate Hitler as anyone probably do but this is a game/fiction and, within the game I don't see any difference between defending a panzer (which was a nazi's artillery) and Hitler himself. Do you think playing an axis is less degrading than defending a model of Hitler. Are you always playing allies? I did but now I also play axis... When you play as a nazi soldier do you feel like a nazi, do you have the same ideas. I don't, and you all surely don't either. Plus, defending a Wermacht general is equal to me. Nazi are/were nazis, the game is the game. In real life I would not fight for such a fool but in-game I'll fight as hard as I can to defend the objective and win the round, for sure!!!
Be serious plz this IS A GAME!!!
That's all I can say...
Yeah, I'm suprised that this has gone so well actually with the discusion about Hilter. But I think xerent is right, change him to a normall officer(not wermacht, I'm pretty sure that was SS). I wouldnt want to defend hitler either. Hell, I'd turn on FF and do it myself...
Originally posted by Winnebago
change him to a normall officer
If I do so it won't be Foxley anymore!!!
All this debate is getting annoying, I'd never thought, when starting the project, that it would be such a problem (thx xerent
:) ) I really don't know what to say and I don't really want to change the objective as it would turn the map into a nonsense or I'll be compelled to change the name too... pffff...:confused: :confused: :confused:
RPGreg2600
06-12-2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by SeRuM
Cool down guys I hate Hitler as anyone probably do but this is a game/fiction and, within the game I don't see any difference between defending a panzer (which was a nazi's artillery) and Hitler himself. Do you think playing an axis is less degrading than defending a model of Hitler. Are you always playing allies? I did but now I also play axis... When you play as a nazi soldier do you feel like a nazi, do you have the same ideas. I don't, and you all surely don't either. Plus, defending a Wermacht general is equal to me. Nazi are/were nazis, the game is the game. In real life I would not fight for such a fool but in-game I'll fight as hard as I can to defend the objective and win the round, for sure!!!
Be serious plz this IS A GAME!!!
That's all I can say...
Well said. And I'd rather kill hitler than a worhtless general.. pfft.
Well in order not to talk about Hitler (this is actually not the topic) I've decided to turn the model into a... dog. Hitler himself was a dog :D :D
The main objective is now to kill a dog so if you are defending dogs and cats and pets etc, don't play this map!!!
Lot of fun :D :D
so now, please, comment on the map.
STARS-FBI
06-12-2003, 08:11 PM
the view look like old map after verison3.1beta....
Sarge0087
06-12-2003, 10:19 PM
Keep it as Hitler. Don't listen to the criticism.
Gorbachev
06-12-2003, 11:37 PM
by the time this debate is all over I bet it'll end up the target is a goat or something.
Originally posted by Sarge0087
Keep it as Hitler. Don't listen to the criticism.
Well... it's a joke I didn't change Hitler model... Foxley is Foxley. A game is a game. Life is life. 2 different things some ppl merge.
@STARS-FBI: the map is only 60% complete. Now the layout is done I'm working on details so it won't seem like "an old map after 3.1 version. I'm new to mapping (5 months) but have already released dod_jura_b2 (my first map;I'll keep on working on when I'll got enough time). Have a try (find it at HoustonDoD, dodmaps etc, and give a lil feedback if you want. Effexx has made some waypoints for it.)
TheNomad
06-14-2003, 07:08 AM
Lame example comment: dont use a dog.. I have a pet dog and i wouldnt want to kill a dog :(
As much as i hate nazis and their beliefs.. i think it is well cool to have an assasinate hitler map...making it a General wouldnt be a fun as the Furher himself. Its only a game remeber that..If u really feel stongly about it just play as allies.
Well said. And I'd rather kill hitler than a worhtless general.. pfft.
Rgr that Billy Bob Joe.
Its just a game, a map defending hitler and a map defending his little empire aren't all that different in my mind, you're helping out the same guy in the long run. Besides, it evens out, half are trying to defend him, true, but half are trying to kill him. So be allies if it offends you, or don't play the map. But I hate to see a serious map get bogged down with stuff like this when its only a game.
Zweett00th
06-14-2003, 01:41 PM
Ppl who dont want to be reminded about the 2nd world war shouldnt really be playing dod in the first place...
I'm glad to notice some people don't merge reality and game. Thx
2ltben
06-14-2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by SeRuM
That's already done!!! As I said I've been compelled to modify the story to give a lil more fun to the gameplay. i.e I put Hitler's mdl in the tearoom near the axis spawn in the village (instead of having him walking down a path to the village->too simple to kill him with a sniper IMHO. I had to make this hard choice). It's kinda infiltration mission.
Hitler is the last (but not least) objective and IS hard to get to. His death ends the round but to get to him you've got to cap the bunker then the Berghoff.
@Poopy Butt: 60% complete is an estimation considering what I want to do and the work to be done. i.e there are some modifications on the way!!! :) And, well, I know it's not in the forest...
@TheNomad/Wittman80: yeah sure there will be more shrubs it's early screenies so the map is quite empty.
@Smitty: i've tried that option first and (mayB I didn't do it well) it'was to easy to kill Hitler -> infltrating the village is a fun job IMHO.
Thx guys for the replies you're great (and sorry for my poor english:rolleyes: )
I'll keep you updated.
I have a suggestion, you and other Commandos parachute into the mountains(in a dod_camera or using a realtime func_train paradrop), and have to capture Berchtesgaden. Then you have to make your way up to the Eagle's Nest, kill Hitler, Goebels, and Goering(all in different locations and prferably moving around), and plant TNT in the Eagle's Nest. At the end of the round you could have an ending dod_camera movie where the Commandos get ambushed and shot, to keep things relatively historically accurate, and that the 3 assassinated men were decoys.
If you mean I could add cutscenes I won't because pple (and I) want to play not watch cutscenes IMHO. That' why I never played para maps in version 3.1. I found cutscenes annoying so... no I won't make cutscenes. Plus making a para drop wouldn't fit because there' s no para brits. I know Foxley was initially planned with two guys dropped from a plane into the Alps but as I said before what I make is rather an adaptation than a exact recreation.
I'm not a specialist in WWII but what you're talking about doesn't remind me of operation Foxley. And why not making this map by your own, it could be great so... Go Go Go!!!
MeNKeH
06-15-2003, 08:31 AM
very unique idea
i wish you the best
2ltben
06-15-2003, 11:11 AM
I'd love an assassinate Hitler map, but it'd also detract from realism, I still say there should be a cutscene where the Brits are surrounded and shot, and maybe a little text message saying that "In the end, British intelligence found that the man assassinated was one of Hitler's decoys.", or something to that affect.
I've edited the first post of this topic to add new screenies. Have a look.
The map is now finished and I need some beta testers now for the gameplay (I've already tried with bots).
TheNomad
06-19-2003, 08:06 AM
Oooo me, pick me, lol. Ill beta test for ya. do u have a serer to do it on? i might be able to supply one
Originally posted by TheNomad
Oooo me, pick me, lol. Ill beta test for ya. do u have a serer to do it on? i might be able to supply one
Thx TheNomad :) I don't have any server and finally I'd thought I could work the allies spawn because it seems too easy to block them. But I'll keep updated. I'm gonna try the map on sunday with my mates and bring some improvements.
TheNomad
06-20-2003, 01:31 PM
well, i may be able to host it on my clan server, let me know.
Originally posted by TheNomad
well, i may be able to host it on my clan server, let me know.
I'll keep updated asap :D
TheNomad
06-22-2003, 12:37 PM
is Zuzu's sig the same model u used for hitler in ur map :D
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