Is there a way to decompile a map to fix or just do some moderate changes of you own?

there is a rmf to bmp to map coverter thingy out there just havent found it yet...it will convert from rmf to map/bmp

decompiling is bad.
tutorials is good.
decompiled brushwork is bad.
learning for yourself is good.

do i need to go on? read tuts and ask us don't decompile its a very sticky issue and dosnt help you learn much at all.

if you decompile with the intention to change youve got a dman long struggle ahead of you. mostly legal, belive it or not epopeol WILL sue.

Winbspc can do that. It simply converts a .bsp file to a .map file.
But the result is not very pretty. This tool is only useful to learn how some entities work.
It is forbidden to decompile a bsp to use the work of another mapper.

Yeah, thats a good rule. you can use it to learn. Though it would be better using tutorials and doing it by yourself, by a lot. To use someone elses map and decompile it is like the 11th commandment. You will be shuned by the community.

I dont belive he had the intentions of "stealing" someone elses work/map, just the fact that yes i know you need to read the tuts......but lets be honest, what harm is it to look at anothers map (to "see" what a finished map would look like?

WOW... Yeah im not trying to steal anyones work.. Even though many people have done someone elses map over... I dont plan to..

I already read tuts.. Im just looking at other options on just how to look at how someone does it. Legal issues... Well I wont get into that.

Like I said im just trying to look at it in that perspective. ALso say I make a map and lose the actual stuff after compile. I want to be able to get back into that map and make changes when and if I have to.

I dont belive he had the intentions of "stealing" someone elses work/map
Agreed
I make a map and lose the actual stuff after compile. I want to be able to get back into that map and make changes when and if I have to.
The bsp can't really be decompiled, since the decompiled brushwork is bad. The only solution is to regulary make backups of the .map file, and store it on a server or on a CD.

decompiling sucks.
It deleats like 400 soilds. Try the bspview. You can see the bsp but can't convert it, I think thats a useful tool for looking at vis problems and see how the map is broken up.

If I remember right, FraGmaN released the source files to dod_vierville a couple weeks ago. Use the forum search and maybe you'll find it.

Heres the Link (http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5692&highlight=dodvierville) tot he thread for the map to download that kleinluka mentioned, though the download link seems to be down :( Try pming him and see what happens :D

Originally posted by kubilius
there is a rmf to bmp to map coverter thingy out there just havent found it yet...it will convert from rmf to map/bmp

Yep. It's called Hammer and Zoner's HL Tools.

Cool, I've always wanted to convert my maps into bitmaps and edit them in Photoshop. wroom wroom!!!

HUH... where is there a bsp to bmp converter in Zoner tools, whats the icon?? or what verson of ZHLT do i need.

also where can the "Bspview" be found??

http://planethalflife.com/botman :>