MREQ: Thompson 1928 to replace the sten


Quakah
06-02-2003, 09:45 AM
Hi there
My grandfather fought with the brittish troops and he carried this Thompson 1928 and I'm really disapointed it isn't used in dayofdefeat so that's why i'm asking for this. It doesn't need to have a drumbag magazine because only the first clip(wich was already attached to the thompson) was a drumbag, the others where regular "box" magazines wich were easier to reload. I'd like to see this really and I'd be appreciated if anyone would make this(or convert it). And I'm sorry if this was asked before but I checked the search and didn't found anything.
Thanks anyway

Quakah
06-02-2003, 11:20 AM
and if possible a w_ and p_ model :) would be kinda silly to pick up a sten and carry a thompson ;)

Cheeto
06-02-2003, 11:21 AM
I released a 1928 Thompson awhile ago, skinned by Bots. Look on the Pokemart for it, it should work as a Sten replacement (as I recall, the Sten, Thompson, and MP40 use the same code).

Toejam Football
06-02-2003, 11:22 AM
Yeah I would like this too, Cheeto is there a way you can put the 1.0 hands on it? I tried but I failed miserably Im not very good with MSA stuff.

BTW I just saw a show on the History Channel last night about D-Day and It had a British guy talking about the beach landings and stuff and I saw like 5 soldiers with Thompsons both the Tommy Gun 1928 version and the M1A1 Thompson ;)

Ska Wars
06-02-2003, 11:24 AM
When i remake my Desert Rats I'll probally use the 1928 tommy gun instead of a sten.

From what i remember the tommy was only really used in the pacciffic and Africa. It wasn't used much in Europe after mid '44 but it would still be cool to have one.

P_models would look weird though lol

*Edit* i stand corrected, alot of Commandos still used the US version of the tommy and alot of Lance Corporals kept their 1928 tommy guns instead of trading them in for a sten.

Ska

Toejam Football
06-02-2003, 11:29 AM
I dont know if you were really corrected they could of been like the only five brits in europe to have them lol :D

Ska Wars
06-02-2003, 11:34 AM
Nah I was wrong. I had forgot that the Commandos who landed at sword beach led by Lord Lovett (I think) used M1A1 Thompsons.

Ska

Quakah
06-02-2003, 11:47 AM
hmm, my grandfather actually carried this thompson along during the whole war, maybe they could attach the magasines of the m4a1? dunno, but he still has that thompson

Toejam Football
06-02-2003, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Quakah
hmm, my grandfather actually carried this thompson along during the whole war, maybe they could attach the magasines of the m4a1? dunno, but he still has that thompson

I think you mean M1A1 (M4A1 is a modern weapon) I dont know but I think the 20/30 round thompson box magazine could fit in the M1928 ?

Quakah
06-02-2003, 11:57 AM
i have no idea actually, maybe he had some spare magasines left, I really don't know

Toejam Football
06-02-2003, 12:00 PM
It probably did fit. Was your Grandfather able to keep the gun after the war? That would be fun to see :D

Quakah
06-02-2003, 12:01 PM
yes, he has it, when he got into battle in 1941 he had it and he carried it around during the whole war, and I still have it

Toejam Football
06-02-2003, 12:02 PM
Thats awesome, lucky sob :)

Cheeto
06-02-2003, 12:05 PM
It's also illegal as hell...not that I would have turned it down. :D

And yes, I plan on updating the Tommy with the new arms and maybe new anims.

Quakah
06-02-2003, 12:07 PM
i think if you ask permission and give credits i don't think it would be a big deal, as long as we get a tommy :D

Toejam Football
06-02-2003, 12:07 PM
Wow awesome Cheeto, maybe he has it disabled so it cant fire?

Cant wait for this, It feels more powerful then the sten :cool:

Ska Wars
06-02-2003, 12:13 PM
yeah I think the 1928 tommy can be used with straight mags. As far as i can tell its the same reciever shape so it work fine.

I'd love to have a 1928 tommy gun lol I love the whole 1930's US gangster scene so one of those would jus be cool as hell lol

Ska

Toejam Football
06-02-2003, 12:20 PM
Yeah me too ska, I was going to buy Mafia but I downloaded the demo and it lagged horribly at the gun fights, it just didnt agree with my video card I think :(

Ska Wars
06-02-2003, 12:34 PM
As soon as you get a better video card get mafia! Its one of my favourite games ever.

The story is pretty damn good, and the levels are huge. The gun fights are pretty good too cos it aint one of those game where you can shrug off a load of wounds, so you're always on your toes in gun fights. The cars are fecking cool too lol

I think Gabagoo converted the main character from Mafia to dod, but i dunno if he released it.

I jus love gangsta films in general, especailly ones set in the '30s like Hoodlum, Billy Bathgate, Valentines Day, Road to Perdition, Last Man Standing etc

Ska

Cheeto
06-02-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Quakah
i think if you ask permission and give credits i don't think it would be a big deal, as long as we get a tommy :D No I mean your having a military issued 1928 Thompson. They're unregistered and for some stupid reason you have to disable it or destroy it. The model I made is mine, I can do what I want with it. :)

Quakah
06-02-2003, 12:41 PM
ah lol, well yeah, i think we have a legimentation for it :)

Quakah
06-03-2003, 09:05 AM
so can you do this?

Arsenal
06-03-2003, 10:21 AM
Just wanted to answer the staright mag question with the 1928...

LINK (http://www.philaord.com/products/m1928.html)

If someone does this please compile it with US sleeves as well. I want to replace my Thompson with it, my grandfather carried a Sten Mk.II and I am never giving it up now that I fanally have one in game. (Other then a model over the Thompson that is.)

Also if you read the page I linked, you can own them with licenses, or there are ways to make them semi-auto and therfore legal.

Cheeto
06-03-2003, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Quakah
so can you do this? No I cant...
















































































































I've already done it. :D Just waiting for bots to finish his school paper and then skin this foregrip real quick. I'm using the default anims for 1.0, but because of the FOV thing, I had to warp my model a bit to make it fit, so the rear grip looks a little funny, but I don't know that you'll be able to see it.

Toejam Football
06-03-2003, 10:52 AM
Cool Cheeto, but arent the p_models going to look strange? lol

Ska Wars
06-03-2003, 10:53 AM
Nice one, cant wait to see it.

Ska

Quakah
06-03-2003, 11:05 AM
I think if you use a P_model maybe the best way to this is to edit the regular thompson P_model, darken it up a bit and add a drumbag instead of a straight magasine.

Russ. Conscript
06-03-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Toejam Football
Cool Cheeto, but arent the p_models going to look strange? lol

not only that, the british seargent will be holding it all wrong. =\

Quakah
06-03-2003, 11:17 AM
but i think if you use the regular thompson p_model and tweak it a little he will be holding it completely normal, but, the model wont have a foregrip then. Well, I'd like to take that :)

Ska Wars
06-03-2003, 11:38 AM
No Quaker mate, your getting confused. It's nothing to do with the p_model of the gun.

You can make the p_model however you want, but he will still hold it wrong because the animations on the player model are designed too look like he is holding a sten.

The only way he could hold the gun correct is by editing the animations of the player model.

Ska

Quakah
06-03-2003, 11:51 AM
oh yeah, sorry, hmmm, well, no need for a p_model then unless someone can reanimate it :p

Devin Kryss
06-03-2003, 11:55 AM
Oh, i don't think you'll have any problems with P models.

Cheeto
06-03-2003, 12:03 PM
Well I haven't done the drum mag becaus the default anims won't fit that. I have to re-animate it for that. This is the box mag with the finned barrel, Cutts Compensator, and horiztonal foregrip.

As for p_models, it WILL work just fine with the default Thompson anims, however you're right that it'll look funky with the Sten unless you recompile your Brits to use the Thompson anims instead.

Toejam Football
06-03-2003, 12:04 PM
Yeah thats right, cant wait for this ;)

Thats cool Devin :D

Quakah
06-03-2003, 12:57 PM
hey devin, that's pretty good, can you make a drumbag instead of the magasine? the rest doesn't need to be changed :) thanks in advance

Airborne506
06-03-2003, 01:08 PM
Yeah I'm not too crazy about the sten I'd love a Tommygun for it(I'm American so I want that whole 1930's mafia thing too). If I were gangster back then though, I'd be packin a BAR.

06-03-2003, 02:38 PM
Got any pics of that tommeh? I would love to see in what conditions it is after so much time.. Ever shoted with it?

Toejam Football
06-03-2003, 03:56 PM
Cheeto do you think it will be release today? :D

Cheeto
06-03-2003, 04:18 PM
It'll be done when Bots gets a free moment.

Toejam Football
06-03-2003, 04:34 PM
Ok sorry for bugging you, are you going to make a new thread for the release?

Cheeto
06-03-2003, 05:53 PM
Yeah you'll see a new thread for it. I'll update my old Tommyguns and add this into the zip file and release all 3 at once.

Quakah
06-04-2003, 04:47 AM
p_ v_ and w_? sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :D and if someone can get a good sound for it, it would be so awesome, by now i'll be using the road to perdition's sound but if anyone has any thing better, damn, this would be so cool :) Thank you guys, I love you so much!!!

Toejam Football
06-04-2003, 12:59 PM
What happened did cheeto dissapear? lol

Cheeto
06-04-2003, 01:13 PM
Toejam, it hasn't even been 24 hours, give it a break, alright? Once it's done and ready, I'll release it, don't worry.

06-04-2003, 01:16 PM
lmfao. :rolleyes: HURRY THE F*** UP!!! :p

Cheeto
06-04-2003, 09:51 PM
Soon, you ungrateful, two-bit, slimey little *******s. Very soon. :D

maRtin
06-05-2003, 08:07 AM
You need to be more like the man in the Grolsch commercials.
Learn to take things a little slower. :cool:

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