CAL has a map that needs to be completed. It's about 80% done, it needs a 3rd route finished and to be "sourced" up. I'm looking for a mapper between projects that would like to help us out and complete this project for us and for pub server use. The "CAL" name will not be on the map anywhere.

Please PM me here on this site or email me at paul.bennett@caleague.com if you're interested.

I doubt your going to get many responses without AT LEAST a few screenshots to show people what your talking about.

They aren't completed maps, that's why we need the help.

I'm happy to show them in private for anyone interested though, these are maps that have the chance to be used in the CAL rotation which usually leads to popularity on pub servers also.

Both maps are well known.

We have a couple more projects added and we've had some good offers from mappers to work with us.

I still have 2 projects open, the 1st map is probably 70% done an the 2nd map is a project from scratch on a new map. Your maps will include the services of hundreds of beta testers and nearly instant feedback.

PM me on gamesurge, #caleague-dods, pm me on this site or email me at paul.bennett@caleague.com

Bumped again, another project has been picked up by a mapper here, we still have a couple more open and one "from scratch" project also.

Are you guys getting permission from the map authors when you produce CAL versions of their maps? For instance, salerno_final?

Are you guys getting permission from the map authors when you produce CAL versions of their maps? For instance, salerno_final?

The Salerno on the CAL site is no different then the version released earlier in the year other then an entity error was fixed that prevented us from using it in CAL. The "black door" effect was removed, no other changes were made.

You will not get a different version error on that map when you connect to a server and do not need to download a new version of it as a player. It's a serverside fix only.

Maps like dod_cal_anvil2, dod_cal_coire and dod_cal_stug are produced for CAL by the mappers themselves. We worked and still work directly with Fuzzdad for Anvil2, giving him a lot of feedback on his work. The same is true for the other "cal" maps. It's up to the authors to add the cal designation, CAL does not insist on it. In most cases the mappers decided to release it with the "cal" name so they can have two different versions of their map available.

The other maps on that list all have the same story, Lard and Dart both worked with CAL. Lard actually gave us the vmf to get finished as he was pressed for time, we also have the vmf for Insecurity, Rosa, and some other maps that need to be finished, not just for league play but for general release to the public.

One thing that CAL offers mappers is about a 1000 beta testers, league players will go over your map and find any exploit or problem and give you volumes of feedback as many mappers have discovered when they begin to work with us.

You will not get a different version error on that map when you connect to a server and do not need to download a new version of it as a player. It's a serverside fix only.
Yeppers
Salerno "fix" loaded on the servers and players had no problems with version errors. Good job :)

The Salerno on the CAL site is no different then the version released earlier in the year other then an entity error was fixed that prevented us from using it in CAL. The "black door" effect was removed, no other changes were made.

You didn't answer my question. Did you get insta's permission or not?

I realize that some mappers give you permission or do the changes for you, such as FD. I think that's great. As for naming, tbh, I don't care what or how they name their maps.

What I want to know is pretty simple. Will CAL makes changes to a map and release w/out being granted permission by the author?

You didn't answer my question. Did you get insta's permission or not?

I realize that some mappers give you permission or do the changes for you, such as FD. I think that's great. As for naming, tbh, I don't care what or how they name their maps.

What I want to know is pretty simple. Will CAL makes changes to a map and release w/out being granted permission by the author?

I'm sorry I misunderstood your question, your first attempt made me think you were asking about the maps with the cal name on them.

First, as far as I know there isn't a map called Salerno_final so your question made me think you were asking if we had made the change or released a new version of Salerno.

Mappers bring us projects or maps, CAL doesn't edit any maps itself. For Salerno, someone brought a serverside fix to us to allow leagues to use the improved dod_salerno that insta released with a .ent file change that removed an error in the map. I personally don't see this as an edit to the map, any more then a plugin that switches the spawns every round is an edit of the map.

Most projects are from outside mappers, some mappers give us vmfs when they run out of time or patience and we look for outside help on them.

The extra explanation is so that everyone understands that CAL doesn't actually do any mapping or alter maps without permission. Mappers bring us maps and we judge them for use in league play.

I'm sorry I misunderstood your question, your first attempt made me think you were asking about the maps with the cal name on them.

And I apologize for sounding a bit stern. :)

I personally don't see this as an edit to the map, any more then a plugin that switches the spawns every round is an edit of the map.

I'm certainly not speaking for insta, but I think that while technically its not an edit, you re-released the map w/ a "_final" which, is a de facto release of the map.

So, I guess my point to you would be that if it results in a map being released then I'd always get the author's permission. Speaking for myself, I see this as an ethical issue and one that an organization that is keen on being ethical (anti-cheating, etc...) should err on the safe side.

That said, I'm not knocking you or CAL at all. I think its a great league and a valuable part of the overall gaming community.


The extra explanation is so that everyone understands that CAL doesn't actually do any mapping or alter maps without permission. Mappers bring us maps and we judge them for use in league play.
Understood and my earlier comment speaks to this.

Tx for the reply. :)

I'm certainly not speaking for insta, but I think that while technically its not an edit, you re-released the map w/ a "_final" which, is a de facto release of the map. :)

CAL did not release a map called dod_salerno_final

The map on the cal site is dod_salerno, same as what insta released. We wouldn't change a map like that without permission from the community mapper.

CAL did not release a map called dod_salerno_final

The map on the cal site is dod_salerno, same as what insta released. We wouldn't change a map like that without permission from the community mapper.

Awesome. I was just misunderstanding. :)

GL w/ your search.