British Weapons and Models


dances_w_wolves
11-16-2006, 09:14 AM
I've been playing DoD since its very first release as a beta all those years ago.

DoD Source, is a shriveled burnt out husk compared to what it used to be. And the communities seem to have given up.

Those who rememebr, Ska_Warz, myself, and Glimsharp who used to constantly release skins, including skins requested and never before seen or modeled.
The 1st Ab british for beta 1. the first 101st AB BoB skins for Beta 1. the first revovler (1917 navy) to replace the colt. the first 30 cal to replace the BAR.

Glimsharps legendary iron Sights.

not to mention countless contributions from thousands of members and new starters trying to develop a beautiful game for thousands of others.


NOW though, nobody does much, they release a few skins, but there are NO new models except for CS style crap that dos not belong in the original ideaoligy of DoD.

It is so sad that all that talent and all that quality of work, has vanished and all that is left, is CS:DoD full of bunny hopping noobs who want to swap their thompson for an M4, or Holo Sights on an M1 Garand.

What has becom of such a great MOD????




MY REQUEST IS THIS.

NOT ONLY IRON SIGHTS FOR ALL WEAPONS, BUT BRITISH WEAPONS< AND MODELS, IF SOMEONE WOULD JUST MODEL THEM I WOULD GLADLY SKIN THEM. BUT DOD:S DESPERATLY NEEDS SOME VARIETY!!!! IT WAS A GREAT GAME THAT GOT BRUTALLY MURDERED AND STRIPPED OF ALL ITS GAMEPLAY!

that is my request, lets diversify an incredibly stagnant twin of a once glorious and enjoyable game.

Wolves. :)


P.S. No Flaming, you don't have to agree with my appraisal of the game, this is mainly a request nothing more. NO FLAMING PLEASE, IF YOU DISAGGREE THAT IS FINE.

Maxey
11-16-2006, 10:11 AM
Unfortunately, you can only get as far as skins, because making new player models for DoD:S it's mostly useless, as most of the servers are consistency protected and won't allow custom player models. It's a tactic against cheating.

dances_w_wolves
11-16-2006, 12:09 PM
Fair enough, I can deal with that, but its more the weapons I care about, I can make an allied player look british etc, its more the weapons.

Wolves. :)

Editor321
11-16-2006, 12:23 PM
good to see you still kicking.

I would also like to see some Brit stuff, either official or not.
I have a feeling if it is done, before Ham and Jam is completed anyway :P that it will be like the brit pack from the ole days :cool:

dances_w_wolves
11-16-2006, 02:12 PM
If I could get the Source SDK to open DoD files id use the default skins and re-skin them like the good ol' days.

How do people unwrap the DoD Models???? If I knew that I could make a good start myself. (for the player ones) as for weapons I do need either people who can model, or people who can convert 1.3 models to DoD:S

I remember you editor you did (and still do) some great work! :D

Wolves. :)

dances_w_wolves
11-16-2006, 02:19 PM
sorry also, what is ham and jam???? :) and can you model editor? im in a DoD clan and im looking for people there and have a couple of volunteers.

Would you like to join us? if so feel free to add me to MSN :) it'd be great to have help :)

Wolves. :)

Guyver
11-16-2006, 02:31 PM
http://www.hamandjam.org/

In my opinion, you'd be better off waiting and trying that than trying to make the current DoD:S player model look like a British soldier. It's just not going to look right since you can't alter the actual Allied player model at all.

dances_w_wolves
11-16-2006, 02:43 PM
WoW that looks really cool. thanks for the heads up!

However for now I plan to continue with this with any help i can get.

thanks for your reply though. and Im aware that they would look wierd due to helmet and clothing style differences, but id do my best :)

Wolves. :)

Wile E Coyote
11-16-2006, 03:02 PM
Honestly......

I would wait for Ham & Jam if the brit stuff is your cup o' tea. All the things mentioned on this page are pretty much already completed, and the mod is going to probably kick-butt. I know this because I recently resigned my position on the H&J team (for reasons I care not to discuss).

Besides, are you really gonna be happy with an 8-shot semi-automatic Enfield?

dances_w_wolves
11-16-2006, 03:26 PM
we coped before Source with that before the team added the british.

ham and jam seems great but graphically it seems a bit crap, unless the realism is superb ill prolly stay with DoD.

If H&J isnt realism based or accurate then id sooner stay with DoD.

and how long do you reckon H&J will take? mods take ages and most fail.

most mods dont even have servers???? even great ones like goldeneye source, or iron grip: the opression.

Wolves. :)

dances_w_wolves
11-16-2006, 06:35 PM
THIS IS THE PLAN:

People willing to help, state the items you are willing to make, no more than 2 per person at any one time. I will update names next to items on both this site and the clan site. ANY help is welcome. please help modelers.



BRITISH PLAYER

BRITISH 1ST AIRBORNE CAMO: RED BERET OR NORMAL ALLIED HELMET / CAMO SMOCK / OLIVE TROUSERS.
BRITISH PARA 01 (http://www.tropaselite.hpg.ig.com.br/british_paras_market_garden9.JPG)
BRITISH PARA 02 (http://www.6th-airborne.org/resources/0206f.jpg)



BRITISH WEAPONS


LEE ENFIELD Rifle No. 4 Mk I -=IN PLACE OF=- M1 GARAND
LEE ENFIELD Rifle No. 4 Mk I (http://www.wwiiguns.com/shop/images/lee_enfield_main01_wwii.jpg)


STEN MK II -=IN PLACE OF=- M1A1 Thompson
STEN MK II (http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/weapons-ww2-allied/sten.jpg)


BREN -=IN PLACE OF=- BROWNING AUTOMATIC RIFLE
BREN (http://www.6th-airborne.org/resources/gear21.jpg)


LEE ENFIELD SCOPED -=IN PLACE OF=- SPRINGFIELD SNIPER RIFLE
LEE ENFIELD SCOPED (http://www.rollanet.org/~stacyw/brit_no1_1T_enfield_sniper_sling.jpg)


WATER COOLED 30. CAL WITH TRIPOD -=IN PLACE OF=- 30. CAL WITH BIPOD
WATER COOLED 30. CAL WITH TRIPOD (http://blog5.fc2.com/g/gaga/file/20050918235527.jpg)


PIAT + JOHNSON M1941 SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLE -=IN PLACE OF=- BAZOOKA + M1 CARBINE
PIAT (http://www.inert-ord.net/atrkts/piat/piatlauncher.jpg)
JOHNSON M1941 SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLE (http://world.guns.ru/rifle/johnson1941.jpg)


WEBLEY REVOLVER -=IN PLACE OF=- COLT PISTOL
WEBLEY REVOLVER (http://www.battlefront.co.nz/Images/weapons/Empire-Webley.jpg)





AXIS PLAYER

FULL FALLSCHIRMJAGER: BLUE HELMET / SPLINTER CAMO SMOCK / FELD GRAU TROUSERS.
FALLSCHIRMJAGER 01 (http://www.abfigures.co.uk/images/Fallschirmjager11.jpg)
FALLSCHIRMJAGER 02 (http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms4/german-fallschirmjager.jpg)



AXIS WEAPONS


MP41 -=IN PLACE OF=- MP40
MP41 01 (http://www.geocities.jp/festering_scar/mp41.jpg)
MP41 02 (http://www.overthefront-game.com/screen/mp41/1.jpg)


FG42 WITH BIPOD -=IN PLACE OF=- MP44
FG42 WITH BIPOD (http://www.wwiiguns.com/store/images/fg42_typeii_shop2wwii.jpg)


G43 SNIPER -=IN PLACE OF=- K98 SNIPER RIFLE
G43 SNIPER (http://www.wwiiguns.com/shop/images/g43_07t_wwii.jpg)


MG34 WITH BIPOD -=IN PLACE OF=- MG42
MG34 WITH BIPOD (http://www.dasheer.org.uk/mg341.jpg)


PANZERFAUST + HIGHER POLY MP44 -=IN PLACE OF=- PANZERSCHREK + C96 AUTO PISTOL
PANZERFAUST (http://www.dasheer.org.uk/panzerfaust.jpg)
MP44 (http://www.images.alliancze.org/CoD/mp44_1.jpg)


C96 MAUSER -=IN PLACE OF=- WALTHER P38
C96 MAUSER (http://www.a-human-right.com/c96-1.jpg)

Guyver
11-16-2006, 10:14 PM
Animations are going to be your biggest issue, to make everything work right. Sproily made both a FG42 & G43

The FG42 was put into CS:S. Sproily wants it for DoD:S, but again animations are an issue:
http://www.cdg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=36902&highlight=FG42

The G43 never got a complete skin:
http://www.cdg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37487&highlight=G43

I don't see the G43 replacing K98 though.

K98 is bolt action.

As for the C96, it already in DoD:S, it would just need moving to another slot.

Davor did model a custom one though:
http://www.cdg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=36513&highlight=C96

Davor, Soul Slayer & Sproily all modeled MP44's:
http://www.cdg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35551&highlight=STG44

http://www.cdg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26894&highlight=STG44

http://www.cdg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19639&highlight=STG44

dances_w_wolves
11-17-2006, 04:41 AM
thanks for that, yes animations might be difficult if we cant use present ones on them, but MP40 anims will work for MP41 etc, we'll have to see what we can get away with.

as for G43 over the K98 scoped. its was done before and it will work again, basically its just the sniper is waiting longer between shots instead of the bolt action.

Wolves. :)

Andy Whyberd
11-17-2006, 05:58 AM
Dunno if this is gonna be seen as an atempted to be a kill joy but:

The British never used the Johnson (Paras and SAS used the Carbine)
They used the Thompson (M1928A1 and M1A1 (very very rare however))
Why not replace the M1917A1 30cal with a Vickers Water Cooled MG?
Also the British Airborne loved the M1911A1 Pistol as it had good stopping power and was lighter than the WEbley Service Revolver.

Just my 2 pennies.

dances_w_wolves
11-17-2006, 06:09 AM
Thats not kill joy-ish at all andy thats great thanks

the johnson is there just as its closer to the M1 Carbine than the Jungle Carbine which (correct me if im wrong) was still bolt action.

yes they used the tommy, but they also used the STEN, which is there to add some variety to a very stagnant pool of replacements.

The Vickers is also a posibility as Id forgotten all about that MG, the water cooled jacketed 30 cal is there because it would be easier to modify and keep anims etc.

And I dont mind leaving the M1911 there again the idea of the webley is to add variety.

Thanks for your comments though they are appreciated.

Wolves. :)

Ginger Lord
11-17-2006, 10:17 AM
Still can't replace the player models though.

Unless you want to get VAC-Banned.

dances_w_wolves
11-17-2006, 10:48 AM
I'm aware of that thanks

Wolves.

Cpl. Entek
11-20-2006, 09:18 AM
If someone makes a decentish Bren gun for dod source that replaces damn near anything and has semi-ok animations i will marry them, have their babies and cut off my legs below the knee so i can eternally be lower than them.

(p.s. me wants Bren for dod: S)

(p.p.s all the above sounds great too)

Andy Whyberd
11-24-2006, 07:20 AM
Yes the Jungle Carbine was Bolt Action (and sucked as it wandered alot) And it was a jungle weapon only and very late war (i think)

Also if your going for British 1st Airborne i know it sounds silly but by Operation Market Garden most Officers / NCO's had a Sten Mk5's.

But apart from that looks and sounds awesome and i wish you the best of luck :D

Major Ingram
11-24-2006, 06:38 PM
my question is why isnt valve letting people change player models

they let use do it in the first dod game they made why dont they let us do it in dods

Anyways this is a very good Idea !

Guyver
11-24-2006, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Major Ingram
my question is why isnt valve letting people change player models

they let use do it in the first dod game they made why dont they let us do it in dods

You can't do it in CS:S either. My guess is that so many people were using cheat player models in the HL1 days, that Valve decided to crack down on it with Source.

Don't blame Valve, blame the cheaters.

H4WkY
11-27-2006, 09:45 AM
Hey im new here but i've tried to create a Luffwaffe Splinter-camo Fallschirmjager with a blue wire-netted m40 helmet and kharki trousers on the current german model if your interested just PM me

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