Here are 2 versions of the bar i am working on. one has a lighter metal and the other has a darker metal. Take a look and enjoy.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/barlight.jpg
light

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/bardark.jpg
dark

can't see a dang single detail on the dark one but the light one is looking good!

the white chalk lining is a bit excessive

i agree now that i look at it more and more it sticks out way to much. I will probably redo the bar again i did this reskin about 2 months ago and never had the chance to present it for those 2 months.

The light version looks top-notch. Nicely skinned. :)

By the way, do you make unwrap models by yourself? Or do you just skin on top of the existing skin?

what do u mean unwrap?

Sorry, I meant like do you use UV maps to skin? If so, do you make them yourself?

no, I believe most of the skinners (such as me) just simply use the default skin as a guideline.

Skinning a model that has never been skinned before requires a UV map but a regular plain old default skin does just the same thing - gives your direction where to draw stuff.

Oh, ok, thanks for clearing that up. If that's the case, is it just a guess-and-check, as to see which part of the skin corresponds to which part in the actual model? Or is there a way of telling?

well if check out the maps you can usualy tell pretty well what parts are what. and you can use Source SDK to check out the skin on the model (if you feel like converting to vtf everytime you want to check out your progress). or you could decompile the model and use 3dmax or milkshape or one of many other 3d modeling progams to view the model with your texture. or you could just check in game.

are these ready for release? i mean i kno youre redoing them, but the dark one looks fine to me. infact, better than fine. i want it now.

rawr.

Just to throw it out there, I think the metal in the light version looks very good.

im redoing the bar. I did these skins about 2 months ago when i was in school and didnt have the time to show previews of it. I looked at it and i realized how much better i could do so im redoing it. I will have a light & dark version so dont get to discouraged about it. Itll be in about a week so get ready. I will post some screenshots tomarrow of my new version of it. I like it alot better than the other 2

has it been a week yet? **sarcasm**

No, not yet. Be patient young padawan

:p

young padawan might have an anuerysm soon if shifty doesnt release these soon......with phong.

****UPDATE****


hey guys sry for not reposting anything for the past couple of weeks. I have been really busy with football camp plus 4 hours a day of summer school. Its really hard for me to do this when i want to make the most out of the time i have available to hang out with friends. Anyways, here are some pics of some of the updates i have made to the bar. Its not completley done yet still work in progress. So take a look enjoy and hopefully i can have this released by tomarrow night at 8et or 9et. If not saturday around 12et. 5hifty

p.s. I dont really like that phong stuff it makes metal to shiny to were u go in a area with a good amount of light the gun turns into a reflective piece of the sun. Especially on the bar.


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/SIDEVIEWS.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/TOPVIEWS.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_anzio0015.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_anzio0014.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_anzio0000-1.jpg

Will there be w_models and a 1024x1024 version?

yes for sure. I have a nit pick about people that dont release a w with their v kinda irritating.

Cool.:)

are you gonna release the original two later on...i mean some people liked them

sry man. I got rid of them. Tell u the truth they didnt look that great ingame i would have released them if they were good quality but they werent. I am trying to release this as soon as possible and i promise u that this time.

Aww... I really liked the first original one. :( Oh well, looking forward to this one, 5hifty!

***UPDATE***


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/BAR3.jpg

looking good, tho i dont really like how you lit the barrel and what i assume is a gas return tube so dramaticly differently, like the light is coming from above on the barrel and at a 30 degree angle for the lower cylander.

***UPDATE***


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/87687.jpg

Too bland & plain.. Also needs more highlights.
Rest looks nice, Keep it up :)

dude there are srcatches and dirt marks all over it. U dont want to make it stand out to much otherwise it looks like crap. Look u will see a good amount of scratches and dirt in the right places

aw, but shift...i really..really...looooved that dark version that you made....love like..i wanted to $%#% it and @#*$& it and.... etc.

***UPDATE***


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_anzio0017.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_anzio0023.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_anzio0024.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_anzio0025.jpg

Can you do a 1024x1024 version too? (v model)

Originally posted by 5hifty
I have a nit pick about people that dont release a w with their v kinda irritating.

Nice to see I'm not the only one with that nit pick. *stares at Forral and Propen.*

This is evolving into a good skin, keep it up! I really am looking forward to trying this out. Don't go overboard on a high-res world model skin like as you have previously in some of your portfolio. It just has to match the view model so it doesn't look out of place, not contain excessive details on metal or wood grain that no-one is going to see. Just simple and effective.

By the way, there is a black line just a bit before the fore hand grip. This looks to me like a misaligned texture, but the original BAR has it too. Is it supposed to be there? (Don't tell me you can't misalign Source textures, I've had first hand experience with them becoming misaligned.)

wow nice makes me want to finish mine. But heres some crits.

Wood is ok
The metal needs to be darker with more contrast
the highlightes are just one big fat weak line make more highlightes to it
add some color to it.
And please fix the text so it looks indented.

quite the critic's critique

***UPDATE***

finalizing
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/08740b48.jpg

a little too light imho

***UPDATE***


here is the bar a little darker and a little more highlighted. If there is anything u see that is in need of change let me know. U can ask me if u want the bar a different coloured tone like a grey blue let me know.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/HGKJH.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_anzio0000-2.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_anzio0003-1.jpg

Too dark, too dark. Probably just my monitor, but its lost its detail in the darkness.

I quite like the version before you darkened it. Here's to hoping you release both the dark and light versions. This one is perfect in my eyes: http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/08740b48.jpg

just release light and dark versions.

final versions of BAR

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/8998.jpg

One word: perfection!

that looks really good shifty, nice work

will be awaiting dl

Looks superb, 5hifty! Eagerly awaiting release. :)

did you not take one of my crits! you have alot of work on that still. First of all dont sharpen it like you did in that pic above. And The text on yours is poping out not indenting in. You need more contrast. You need to fix the fat fugly hightlight on the barrel and you need to match the darkness of the body with the barrel. Right now in the last upadte it looks like volcanic rock Nothing like metal. It sill needs alot more work.

DayofDfeat123, I'm not at power or anything, but please criticise in a more calm, mature, and professional manner.

PS: The text is definitely indented in, not popping out.

PPS: 5hifty doesn't have to listen to you.

Originally posted by SilentSteps
DayofDfeat123, I'm not at power or anything, but please criticise in a more calm, mature, and professional manner.

PS: The text is definitely indented in, not popping out.

PPS: 5hifty doesn't have to listen to you.


ok the text thats impossible that its indenting because the inside shoudnt be lighter than the rest of the gun. And if he dosnt want to listen to me fine but then his skin wont come out as good as it could. And stop asking about the unwraps and skinning over it you just take the old skin and make a new skin over it. but if its a new model you make a new skin.

Nice man they look very nice, at least better then the stock ones.
Where can I download these?
If you want to tweak them a bit more, np but put these up somewhere, I like em ;)

Originally posted by DayofDfeat123
did you not take one of my crits! you have alot of work on that still. First of all dont sharpen it like you did in that pic above. And The text on yours is poping out not indenting in. You need more contrast. You need to fix the fat fugly hightlight on the barrel and you need to match the darkness of the body with the barrel. Right now in the last upadte it looks like volcanic rock Nothing like metal. It sill needs alot more work.


i sharpend the picture like that not the reskin. Also the text on the gun is indented in i didnt want it to be a total black indent otherwise u wouldnt see it. Also i have changed the darkness of the barrel to match the guns darkness. I dont understand how u want more contrast I put plenty of it in.

p.s. if u wanted the first original reskins i posted to begin this thread i found them stored away on my hard drive. I will release them within my new reskin's download. So dont worry i do what u say. Except for dayofdefeat123.j/k

Almost ready for release?

my BAR Reskin is RELEASED DOWNLOAD NOW!!!


DOWNLOAD HERE! (http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/14060)

Originally posted by 5hifty
my BAR Reskin is RELEASED DOWNLOAD NOW!!!


DOWNLOAD HERE! (http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/14060)
Oh yeah bring it on!
Testing right away!! thanks!!!