hopefully nothing too hard. just the default sten, held from the magazine.
default origins would be nice. thanks in advance to anyone that gives it a try..?

Im thinking the only guy who would even stand a chance in making it look good is Capt. Glimsharp, speak to him.

doubt he'd pay attention. i'll give it a shot though.

isn't holding stens by the mag just a hollywood thing?

probably. but that's the way i think it looks good.
sure there's others out there that agree with me.

Originally posted by E.B. Sledge
isn't holding stens by the mag just a hollywood thing?

no, thats how they're meant to be held I think (by the mag) correct me if i'm wrong.

Then you are corrected :p

They were not supposed to be held by the barrel, it increased the instances of jamming. That said, I find that what ppl see in war movies they liked is what they want in the game...

Nothing wrong with that, it is thier 'little world' they are creating for themselves :)

Originally posted by Arsenal
Then you are corrected :p

They were not supposed to be held by the barrel, it increased the instances of jamming. That said, I find that what ppl see in war movies they liked is what they want in the game...

Nothing wrong with that, it is thier 'little world' they are creating for themselves :)

Um sorry don't mean to be a jerk but how do I stand corrected if you even said they weren't meant to be held by the barrel? Isn't that what I said aswell? :p

I don't mean to be insulting just like clarification :D

i'm pretty sure that by barrel he meant magazine. it's late.
and yea, i'm not aiming for historical accuracy, i just think it looks better.

Yeah, I meant magazine... :p very late at night here lol.

I just can't help thinking that holding it by the magazine would end in you yanking the mag out.

I mean, your supposed to just pull it out when your reloading right. So why wouldn't you end up doing it when firing it and moving around? Does the sten have a mag release button?

I own a decomissioned Sten, which I based the DoD Sten skin (parts of it) on .. and its definatly more awkward to hold by the clip then how it is in DoD.

Sten clips were very sensitive to breaking or otherwise screwing up, if I recall.. and this was only worse when the gun was held by the clip.

Originally posted by [DoD]Agent~0
I own a decomissioned Sten, which I based the DoD Sten skin (parts of it) on .. and its definatly more awkward to hold by the clip then how it is in DoD.

Sten clips were very sensitive to breaking or otherwise screwing up, if I recall.. and this was only worse when the gun was held by the clip.

how come u hold it by the barrel in first person and in third person the soldier is holding it by the magazine?

Also dosnt the Sten have a barrel grip so u dont burn your hands? in dod it looks like hes holding the part of the barrel with holes wouldnt that burn your hands?

Holding at the waist. -- The left foot is advanced with the knee bent, the weight of the body being balanced on the left foot. The right hand is on the butt with the forefinger on the trigger, the left hand on the barrel locking nut with the wrist under the magazine, the butt of the weapon is pressed tightly against the side by the right arm. The left elbow is pulled well back into the body in order that, no matter in which direction the firer turns, the weapon is brought automatically in the same direction. Care must be taken that the little finger of the left hand is clear of the ejecting opening.

http://www.6th-airborne.org/sten.html

Originally posted by Toejam Football
how come u hold it by the barrel in first person and in third person the soldier is holding it by the magazine?
i noticed awhile ago too but i didnt want to say anything to bother the team(i mean every two seconds someone else was complaining about something else)
so i just made beleive that everyone else in my squad were a bunch of noobs and were holding their sten wrong :D

Hello all.

I will animate the Sten held by the mag.

I have fired a section 5 Sten with 9mm blanks . The origional WWII field operators manual clearly states that the Sten should be held slightly forward under the breech (just as it is in DoD).

However .....

I found it more comfortable to fire it holding it by the mag and mag housing. Personal choice.

The reason this was not recommended is simple :

Sten mags fit snug into the housing BUT still have some "play" - they move slightly. If a soldier was to apply uneven presure while firing it it could easily result in the bolt jamming against the mag OR an uneven load of the round - hence problems.

Other smg's (MP40,Thompson,etc) seem to fit ALOT tighter into the mag housing (I own ALOT of origional WWII deacs)


I love doing research and have seen MANY real WWII clips of our Brit Boys in action. I have seen them fire the Sten in both held positions.

Hope this helps.

can't say how much i appreciate this. thanks man.

Yeah Glimsharp they probably just held it whichever way was more comfortable for them. But like you said I think the "Correct" way to hold it in the manual was by the barrel grip but who does anything correct when they actually start fighting anyways? A lot of stuff they taught in training (us training at least) was crap and didnt really get the soldiers ready for war, they found that out when they entered combat. (or so they say on history channel and book i read ;) )