[REL]dod_anvil (final)


FuzzDad
02-03-2006, 07:50 PM
Here you go...the final dod_anvil release this year.

First brush built: 11/4/2004
Final map released: 2/3/2006

Slow as ever.

Map is a 100% new rendition of my DoD 1.3 dod_falaise map. It is NOT a port. From Release Candiate 2 (dod_anvil_rc2) this map is faster-paced, has better fps, less stuff to bump into, is fully HDR-compliant, more detailed, 32 regular spawn (no instant combat) points, 100% new lighting, addition of kubelwagen and 222 as flag-objectives, windows that break on touch, replica dod_falaise castle (looks like crap) but most of all...IT'S DONE!!!!

Map: FilePlanet Link, (http://www.fileplanet.com/158017/150000/fileinfo/Day-of-Defeat:-Source---Anvil-Map)FD Link, (http://mysite.verizon.net/warewind)CoJ Link (http://maps.nomad9.us/dod_anvil.zip)

Pictars: Pic 1, (http://mysite.verizon.net/warewind/images/dod_anvil0001.jpg) Pic 2, (http://mysite.verizon.net/warewind/images/dod_anvil0002.jpg) Pic 3, (http://mysite.verizon.net/warewind/images/dod_anvil0003.jpg) Pic 4, (http://mysite.verizon.net/warewind/images/dod_anvil0004.jpg) Pic 5, (http://mysite.verizon.net/warewind/images/dod_anvil0005.jpg) Pic 6, (http://mysite.verizon.net/warewind/images/dod_anvil0006.jpg) Pic 7, (http://mysite.verizon.net/warewind/images/dod_anvil0007.jpg) Pic 8, (http://mysite.verizon.net/warewind/images/dod_anvil0008.jpg) Pic 9, (http://mysite.verizon.net/warewind/images/dod_anvil0009.jpg) Pic 10 (http://mysite.verizon.net/warewind/images/dod_anvil0010.jpg)

Next: OBJECTIVE MAP TIMEZ

Deceiver
02-03-2006, 07:56 PM
Yay! But will you add the Sherman tank once it is released with its normal skin?

Blue[)evil
02-03-2006, 08:01 PM
Many thanks Fuzzdad, Its going straight onto my clans server.
So im guessing glider is next :)

RosietheRiveter
02-03-2006, 08:03 PM
Wow!!
Im on it

Cranbarry
02-03-2006, 08:08 PM
Pure SWEETNESS!

although I am slightly biased :) - Thanks for all the hard work FuzzDad!

steppinrazer
02-03-2006, 08:10 PM
thanks for all the work
great map!!

FuzzDad
02-03-2006, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by deceiver
Yay! But will you add the Sherman tank once it is released with its normal skin?

Nope...stick a fork in this...it's done.

mn9500
02-03-2006, 08:51 PM
FINNALY! thanks man.

Tonedef
02-03-2006, 09:03 PM
Congrats FD! I am glad you can finally say it is done :). I have been waiting for this for quite some time!

But I know everyone is wonderin...what's next for you? Not to be pushy :p.

HammeR [OwP]
02-03-2006, 09:27 PM
Very good. Another work of art from the master!

Flash
02-03-2006, 09:44 PM
Thanks for all of your hard work on this Fuzzdad! It must be a big relief to mark this one "DONE." We all look forward to your next project.:)

Shane
02-03-2006, 10:27 PM
CoJ Link (http://maps.nomad9.us/dod_anvil.zip)

Wile E Coyote
02-03-2006, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by FuzzDad
Nope...stick a fork in this...it's done.
I know the feeling man....
Dozens of things you see that you always want to improve
Hundreds of people asking you to add something or "try this"

You gotta wrap things up and call them finished (whether they are or not) at some point! :D

I'm sure you wouldn't have called this final unless it was a really decent compromise in your head. I ALWAYS loved Falaise; You may remember way back in the day when it was first released I, as well as others, championed the idea of getting it included in the "official" map rotation, which to our joy it eventually did.

Thanks for taking the time to turn a great DOD map into a new DOD:S map for me to kill people on!

happyernst
02-03-2006, 11:31 PM
that is what we want and good to hear you next plan .
(but is it possible to make objetive maps in the moment like "jagd"?)
and btw , the realy first build is 2003 "g"
http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8300

Jibba-Jabba
02-04-2006, 12:10 AM
Congratulations, FD! It's a great map.

IcyChris
02-04-2006, 12:15 AM
Great Map, will be in the Mappool of the ZKFL ( german league ) !

Thanks for that FuzzDad :)

Wile E Coyote
02-04-2006, 12:23 AM
Okay, second reply to this thread.

I just wanted to take the time to point out something I have always said - it's the little details that make or break something. This map abides by that creed 100%. Look at these 2 examples (of many I saw) -

http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dodanvil00038cp.jpg

Look at those stone steps. They are worn from hundreds' of years of use. This is a very common sight in Europe. The average mapmaker would just have thrown in flat steps - it's easier, less polygons, and frankly many just wouldn't think of it or consider it an "insignificant" detail. I believe these type steps are found in the standard valve maps, but I tell you I could count on one hand the number of user-maps that have made use of them.

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dodanvil00020gc.jpg

Look at the hole closely. I love the attention to detail here. Brick inner wall with plaster finish. 2 very distinct layers. Floor is strewn with rubble from the wall (when the hole was blasted in it)

Sooooo....

Just in case you thought nobody really paid attention to or cared about details on which you worked so hard, I'd thought I'd let you know FD that yes, some of do notice and do appriciate the extra effort :D

Kendle
02-04-2006, 03:22 AM
UK download:-

http://dod.gamersnation.co.uk/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=102

Furyo
02-04-2006, 04:21 AM
Glad you got it done Wes. As always great work! If only all mappers were inspired by your examples....

DjBourgeoisie
02-04-2006, 06:46 AM
great work fuzzdad, uploading to my server in a few minutes and adding to rotation (first custom in actual rotation) ;)

FuzzDad
02-04-2006, 06:52 AM
Thanks for the nice feedback guys. I don't think there are any major bugs/faults with it outside the roundstart sound loop herky-jerk you'll get. That settles down quickly. I also clipped it all to heck and there are only a few places I allow you to climb up on things. There was at least one place in the map durring testing a few months ago where you could fall through the map but I fixed that and have not heard of any other issues like that. The detail I put in the map isn't unique...look at salerno, sora and diijon and you'll see the same kind of stuff.

What's more important to me however is the gameplay and that should work out fine. You do have a imbalance of sorts...the allies can reach the mid-cap a tad earlier than the axis IF they don't fight each other trying to get out of spawn, but the axis have better approach shots to the tank and can get to their one and two flags faster than the allies can get to theirs...so it's asymetrical in that sense (kinda like weapons balance in a way). I've been told by the devs it's the second most balanced map in playing rotation after Flash so it'll be interesting to see how she goes now that my forward spawns are gone.

wickit
02-04-2006, 06:56 AM
OK VALVE LISTEN
the man is done.
add to official rotation

fuz well done m8
as always a spot on map.
deserves to be official rotation.:ds:

theozzmancometh
02-04-2006, 07:13 AM
Great Work, FD.

StreamlineData
02-04-2006, 07:28 AM
As always, FD, *Exemplary* work to the rest of us! Great job on finally finishing it!

What'll you do now?

Koblentz
02-04-2006, 07:39 AM
It's a great map an all, Fuzzdad, but I can barely stand playing it. The weird hitching/lag/jerkniess is extremely bad for me when I join and at the start of a new round. I get 1/3 fps (yes, one frame every three seconds) for over 45 seconds during both. I appreciate all the work you put into it, but I'm going to have to avoid anvil :(

quint
02-04-2006, 07:51 AM
gobsmackingly beautiful , plays superbly, really well done Fuzzdad

i just miss the insane start from RC2 but thats just me :)

Along with Salerno this really should be an official map

German Killa
02-04-2006, 10:03 AM
running on the official dayofdefeat.de server, ip: 213.202.211.62:27025

smashingpunk007
02-04-2006, 10:19 AM
Perfection.:D

El Capitan
02-04-2006, 11:34 AM
Sweet! News'ed up on DoDNetwork (http://www.dodnetwork.com) ! Awesome job man!

NotAgOat
02-04-2006, 11:59 AM
Thanks fuzzdad!

Sabre
02-04-2006, 01:33 PM
I'd like to say its a good map. I genuinely want to say it. But my frame rate locks itself at 0 - thats right, rock bottom. I can't move and all the sound is stuttering. From what I did hear, it does sound like there is some ambience now in the map, which is the only good thing I can say. I simply cannot do anything. I'm going to try pratting around with my system to get a higher frame rate, but I am disappointed that I can't even get out of spawn to see the great work.

HellStar
02-04-2006, 02:26 PM
I think this map is worthy of inclusion to every server rotation out there (if they have downloadurl capabilities).

Even better would be for this map to be made offical, so everyone can enjoy it :)

FuzzDad
02-04-2006, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by S@bre
I'd like to say its a good map. I genuinely want to say it. But my frame rate locks itself at 0 - thats right, rock bottom. I can't move and all the sound is stuttering. From what I did hear, it does sound like there is some ambience now in the map, which is the only good thing I can say. I simply cannot do anything. I'm going to try pratting around with my system to get a higher frame rate, but I am disappointed that I can't even get out of spawn to see the great work.

Sorry about that...there's something in the map I can't identify which causes some users to get more than their fair share of round start stutter...I'm really not sure what it is. I'm going to ask some folks I know if they could look into it. My guess is there's one entity causing it for only certain users. All my attempts to isolate it failed and you and one other guy are the only ones who reported the zero-frame-rate issue. Try renaming your config files and let Steam and DoD rebuild them from defaults.

Deceiver
02-04-2006, 03:36 PM
I noticed that you don't have the camera views of the major areas anymore like for rc2 so all the sounds could be cached? Maybe that'll help? I noticed cliffe used it for Kalt this time around teehee.

RA7
02-04-2006, 04:40 PM
Adding mirror now, at LanmaniaX

Black Lotus
02-04-2006, 04:58 PM
Small bug on the stairs near allied first capture.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1342/err0qq.jpg

FuzzDad
02-04-2006, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by deceiver
I noticed that you don't have the camera views of the major areas anymore like for rc2 so all the sounds could be cached? Maybe that'll help? I noticed cliffe used it for Kalt this time around heh.

Yea...i took those out because they were adding to some of the round restart issues. BTW...I also have now had that bug where you try and connect to a game of anvil but you get a looping sound deal and it's unplayable. It only happens on some servers...not all. I deleted my "special" config and went to a default config and it ran fine...so there's some CVAR causing it in conjunction with some server setting. I tested it on both Linux and Windows servers and we never had that problem (see...you can even test, test, test...and not catch everything).

I'm not going to update the map unless it get's too far out of hand.

Kendle
02-05-2006, 04:56 AM
Now playing on dodsnation.co.uk

85.236.100.25:27015

And UK download:-

http://dod.gamersnation.co.uk/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=102

Gallica
02-05-2006, 09:11 AM
super job fuzzDad, I deal with the maps on our serveur 213.186.44.114:27023 and I have it ajoutee with the mapcycle; anvil, foxhunt, murky_p2, panic , salerno, snowhill, sora, stquentin, and tiger. continue has to make us beautiful map:D

Para-Man
02-05-2006, 08:03 PM
Thanks for all the hard work, and time you've spent on this map (and its early versions) Fuzzdad! Also, with your voice, have you ever thought of working on a proper radio station - not just for the Axis... ;)

Wile E Coyote
02-05-2006, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by FuzzDad
The detail I put in the map isn't unique...look at salerno, sora and diijon and you'll see the same kind of stuff.
Yes, I know. More than you realize :)

I was referring to user-made maps. Most of them overlook details like this. Yours did not. It makes a difference! (that was my point ;) ) And personally I like Dijon but no, I found to many aesthetic problems with it. As a matter of fact I could point out about a dozens little things on that map that could actually use more visual attention. It just does not look convincingly real to me yet, but it is still a work in progress I think. Sora I have already sang praises of.

bazooka
02-05-2006, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Wile E Coyote
Yes, I know. More than you realize :)

I was referring to user-made maps. Most of them overlook details like this. Yours did not. It makes a difference! (that was my point ;) ) And personally I like Dijon but no, I found to many aesthetic problems with it. As a matter of fact I could point out about a dozens little things on that map that could actually use more visual attention. It just does not look convincingly real to me yet, but it is still a work in progress I think. Sora I have already sang praises of.

You should throw Furyo a PM about that. He was looking to get some feedback on Dijon not too long ago but didn't get much. I'm sure he'd appreciate some more before the final release.

Slackiller
02-05-2006, 10:23 PM
Great Job Fuzz.

Map looks nice and plays good.Lots of nooks and crannys to shoot people from.


http://csm2.net/view_map.php?map_id=2094

dimeric
02-05-2006, 11:40 PM
Fine job FD .
Updated to my database website

Bunk3rk1ng
02-06-2006, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by S@bre
I'd like to say its a good map. I genuinely want to say it. But my frame rate locks itself at 0 - thats right, rock bottom. I can't move and all the sound is stuttering. From what I did hear, it does sound like there is some ambience now in the map, which is the only good thing I can say. I simply cannot do anything. I'm going to try pratting around with my system to get a higher frame rate, but I am disappointed that I can't even get out of spawn to see the great work.

I also had this problem on rc2. I've played it before with about 6 people on the map but never had any problems. I joined a server that was running it and had a lot of people in it and my fps was locked at zero in the allied spawn and I couldnt do anything.

I had all my settings on low. Here is my system.

P4 3.0 Ghz
Radeon 9800 Pro 125mb
1.5 Gigs of ram
-heapsize 900,000

thats all that I can think of that would be helpful in trying to fix the problem. I can't check the final version though right now, my 9800 broke :-( It's on its way to ATI right now.

Looks pretty sick though, I wish I could play it.

DjBourgeoisie
02-06-2006, 05:50 AM
I experienced a lock yesterday as well, but I am 99% sure this is a source engine bug and has nothing to do with the map itself. I have locked on other maps as well (official maps) so it is not just this map in particular.

FuzzDad
02-06-2006, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by Bunk3rk1ng
Looks pretty sick though, I wish I could play it.

Try copying your configuration files to a safe place and let Source rebuild them for you. That worked for me on the one server I couldn't join. I do think there's an entity or something in the map causing it and I'm going to ask my friends at Valve to look into it for me.

Doc.G
02-06-2006, 12:42 PM
downloading the map right now. thx FD!

ultranew_b
02-06-2006, 02:15 PM
Kick A** Map !!

Thanks FD !

:)

FuzzDad
02-06-2006, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by DjBourgeoisie
I experienced a lock yesterday as well, but I am 99% sure this is a source engine bug and has nothing to do with the map itself. I have locked on other maps as well (official maps) so it is not just this map in particular.

For you and anyone else who has had this bug do me a favor if you can find the time. Try and replicate it except this time start DoD with -DTI. To enable DTI, the Source engine (client) must be started with a special "-dti" command line parameter, e.g "hl2.exe -game mymod -dti". Then DTI runs automatically in the background collecting data about all transmission activities. Just attempt to connect to the game server where you had the loopy deal and sit around at 1-5fps for a few minutes. Then quit the game or run the console command "dti_flush" and the engine will write all collected data to files in your mod directory. You'll be able to see the files in your dir because they will have "DTI" in the file name. There should be three files but the one we want is "dti_client.txt". It should be small enough to post here.

You can also attempt to start recording a demo as well. I really think something in the map is causing the abnormal amount of herky-jerk at round start and I'd love to get a root cause.

IcyChris
02-09-2006, 01:24 PM
Stupid Question.. is it normal, that if dod_anvil is "loaded" that my ping climbs up to over 700ms and I have to rejoin the server ?

What`s the Fuzz about that ;)

bmartinson13
02-09-2006, 03:22 PM
w000000000t

Putting it on the Able 6 Custom Map Server ASAP

FuzzDad
02-09-2006, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by IcyChris
Stupid Question.. is it normal, that if dod_anvil is "loaded" that my ping climbs up to over 700ms and I have to rejoin the server ?

What`s the Fuzz about that ;)

No...it's not normal and that's part of the overhead sequence i was speaking of in my earlier post. I cannot pin-point the cause of that...it's intermittant, it hits on some server and PC configurations (doesn't seem to happen if you use a Valve-default client config).

Propaganda
02-09-2006, 10:17 PM
Well I just got around to having a look at it and I must say it's exceptional work, as good as it gets. I like the lighting especially, nice ambience. Extremely clean and well thought out, doesn't feel cluttered. With the lack of official maps provided I would highly recommend valve picks this up and throws it into the rotation as is.

IcyChris
02-10-2006, 10:11 AM
No...it's not normal and that's part of the overhead sequence i was speaking of in my earlier post. I cannot pin-point the cause of that...it's intermittant, it hits on some server and PC configurations (doesn't seem to happen if you use a Valve-default client config).

Well didn`t change much on the config.. If there is any help for that problem.. give a call ;)

[slhr]jack
02-14-2006, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Black Lotus
Small bug on the stairs near allied first capture.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1342/err0qq.jpg
Oh good I'm not the only person to post a little bug :p

I understand the map is final, and these are very small discrepencies which don't take away from the stunning work you've done on the map. But it's always useful to know these things should you start working on another project soon (which I'm sure we all hope you are ;) )

Firstly, Allies spawn. The shadows cast by these pictures apparently hanging on the wall are very odd!
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c142/Bodidily/dod_anvil0000.jpg

Also the 'hotel' in the middle, the streetlights outside are on. Despite it being daylight outside!
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c142/Bodidily/dod_anvil0001.jpg

FuzzDad
02-14-2006, 04:51 PM
Thx for the bug catches...if Valve ever decides to buy it (one can hope) I'm sure they'll fix it. The only reason I'd release another version of the map would be to fix the stutter problem. The only issue is, and this is a major one, I can't figure it out.

bazooka
02-20-2006, 09:05 PM
Uploaded to FPSBanana (not that it needed any more plugging!) Hope you don't mind.

http://www.fpsbanana.com/?section=viewitem.maps.maps.main.11097

Juggaknot
02-21-2006, 07:27 PM
Been playing this map for some time and it's great! Nice to see it finally completed, gj.

JonnyLaw
03-27-2006, 03:07 PM
Don't know if this has all been resolved, but i think I found the problem.

I think Anvil is an absolutely fantastic map, my absolute favorite in source and was very happy about being on board for the beta testing on Sunlits :D

At one point I started having problems with this thing where my ping jumps to 700+, the "In" (on net_graph 3) is at 1340 and everything extremely stuttery.

I tried your (FuzzDad) advice and removed my config to use defaults, which worked.
After going through every line in my config, comparing it to the defaults, changing a few of them -> connecting to our server, changing a few more, connecting again.....etc.

I found that if you (like many people do) have your cl_updaterate set at 100 you get the stuttering on Anvil. if you set it down to e.g. 50 its fine.
(If you've connected and it stutters set your cl_cmdrate and cl_updaterate to 50...wait till it settles, then set it back)

Hope this helps a bit! ;)

Paladin82
08-04-2006, 10:26 PM
Yeah, JonnyLaw is right, if you knock your rates down it works.
Please fix it soon, cause we get lots of requests for this map.


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