http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2367/finaldestination8yy.jpg

<3 zao :D


fin.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8384/dodflash00063ge.jpg http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/6213/dodflash00042fk.jpg

Glad to see you started skinning it,Thanks :cool:

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7058/heyhucker4nx.jpg

this should look nice, gelly is on the case.

Nice work so far!

However, most original WWII M1 Garand's I've seen (And I've seen quite a few) were made by Springfield Armory - not Winchester.

http://www.scott-duff.com/R618_70.JPG

I'd never say none were made by Winchester, because I don't know for sure. But I know the large majority of Garand's were made by Springfield.

Great work, though! Can't wait to see a final product!

Originally posted by Captain Higgins
Nice work so far!

However, most original WWII M1 Garand's I've seen (And I've seen quite a few) were made by Springfield Armory - not Winchester.

http://www.scott-duff.com/R618_70.JPG

I'd never say none were made by Winchester, because I don't know for sure. But I know the large majority of Garand's were made by Springfield.

Great work, though! Can't wait to see a final product!

Originally posted by Zao
*Edit - Also, I'm yet to see ANYONE make a Winchester M1 skin in all these years of DoDing and Winchester made half a million, only during WW2. I owned one, and I'd love to see a replacement skin with the Winchester logo on it. SN 1311108http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/7748/97664121866zh.jpg

This is for Zao :)

Way to go and thanks for the info and pics. If this comes out anywhere close to the mp40 work you released earlier we are in for a treat :cool:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1583/taketheskinandpeelitbacknowdoe.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

double post

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/7672/fasrkinghaowl1pm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Great job with the metal. I just can't wait to see what the wood will look like.

Just noticed this. Looking good, Sproily! :) Glad to see someone taking my request and running with it :) I won't be around in the coming weeks, but I'll get a fellow garand fan, collector and modeller to check in on this thread and give feedback, if you would like. He could really help you nail the skin as far as authenticity goes. :)

Also, one small additional request, if it's not a problem. Could you make the front sight blade flat across the top? That's the only thing I absolutely hate in DoD:S :|

hahah yeah looks awesome, of course its good to go outside the box and skin it winchester style. sifnt know winchester made~

Higgins, all Winchester M-1's were WWII.
Springfield Armory and Winchester were the only two manufacturers of M-1's during the second "Great War"

Harrington & Richardson, and International Harvester joined the ranks of M-1 suppliers along with continued production by Springfield Armory for Korea. Winchester did not produce M-1's after the contract was up during WWII.

I'm the collector that Zao referred to. I'll keep an eye on this for any blaring inaccuracies that may , but most likely won't arrise.

Looks great so far.

Originally posted by Captain Higgins
Nice work so far!

However, most original WWII M1 Garand's I've seen (And I've seen quite a few) were made by Springfield Armory - not Winchester.

http://www.scott-duff.com/R618_70.JPG

I'd never say none were made by Winchester, because I don't know for sure. But I know the large majority of Garand's were made by Springfield.

Great work, though! Can't wait to see a final product!

this is what it propably looks MORE like when its finished in terms of contrast and that other stuff

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/5057/closertowhatitshouldooklikewhe.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Zao, I can only do stuff that I can texture. I aint changing the model :P

Originally posted by Sproily
this is what it propably looks MORE like when its finished in terms of contrast and that other stuff
Looking good. The only thing I would say further about the skin is that the recievers for the M1's were hammer-forged steel and very, very, hard. It's extremely difficult to scratch them. The finish, parkerizing, is also very durable, and is actually a result of it chemically bonding with the metal as opposed to working like paint, which can be scratched or chipped off metal very easily.

Also, that serial number comes back to an early April '43 Winchester M1, which would have been originally issued with light grey parkerizing. So, the color could be lightened up to something similar to what you see in the pictures Higgins and I posted for historical accuracy, and the scratches could be toned down quite a bit. In the pic I posted of the Winchester, you'll see some pitting on the rear of the reciever heel. This is the most common form of wear I've seen on M1 recievers. Mine was badly pitted.

Actually, when I get home from class, I'll post a link to a zip file with a bunch of detail pics of the very rifle you're skinning there :) It was badly pitted, and re-arsenaled in 1965.

Other parts of the rifle would show scratches and pitting quite well, such as the gas cylinder, or the windage and elevation knobs. The trigger guard and floor plate, possibly. Also, different parts were finished at different times, and oiled with different oils and packed in grease for differing amounts of time. On many WW2 correct M1's, you'll see different shades of finishes on the different parts. One of my High Power club's M1's that my girlfriend borrowed has olive-stained windage knobs on a light grey reciever with a dark grey bolt and a black parkerized clip latch, for example. Color variation between all the different parts happens because the parts were stored in cosmoline, a heavy grease, and the finish absorbs the color. Just a neat piece of trivia you could run with if you wanted :) A good place to see this at play is at http://www.garandguy.com/ He has a lot of rifles in consecutive serial numbers with widely varying finish colors (note- The white stuff in the stampings is white crayon, purely for picture and show-off purposes :) )

Either way, it looks like you're coming along nicely there. :)

Originally posted by Sproily
Zao, I can only do stuff that I can texture. I aint changing the model :P
Gotcha. I posted in Short_fuses thread with some feedback. Perhaps this is something he will fix, or already has with the version you're skinning. :)

Allright Zao, how about I make one dark and one light gray version?

Hows that sound? Would atleast make the community happy :P

Originally posted by Sproily
Allright Zao, how about I make one dark and one light gray version?

Hows that sound? Would atleast make the community happy :P

Whatever you're willing to do is cool in my book. I'm just looking forward to installing it and picking off soldats with my M1. :D

:)

Wow thats looking real good. I will look forward to this. :D

oops

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7896/taketheskinandpeelitback4ww.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9528/taketheskinandpeelitback27vc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

***** all you want :P

Sweet ^_^ looks almost done! Can't wait for its release ^_^.

Originally posted by Sproily
***** all you want :P

Well first of all, you have the metal TOTALLY wrong. I mean, my god, the color is completely ahistorical and who knows what you were thinking by adding those scratches. What a fool you are :angry: :angry:



Cheers :D

will change the tone of everything to match ... sometime

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/912/idiots3rv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

That looks great,really like the wood grain you chose. Nice update pic,thanks:cool: BTW,are you going to add normal maps to this?

I must say that wood looks top-notch. A little flat, but the game does most of the shading anyway, right?


Edit: Nvm, didn't look long enough before I posted that. The wood isn't flat...I don't know what I was thinking. :confused:

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/2483/linkhascometodown0wq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The grain is a mix of my own photo and two textures

They look both great and about done. Nice work:D

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/9492/garand5yt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

they are the same :P

just mirrored so you can see the other side

Ah,i tard,sorry :p are you adding normal maps?

Ofcourse.

Awesome work man!!! Looking forward to this replacement! Now we just need to get a Springfield for you to skin...oh there is also that BAR in the CDG skinning section that has been unwrapped!

Keep it up I love your work!

Yeah, well there is a p38 and an stg44 in the list, dont know about the BAR yet atleast.

It looks great so far Sproily, GJ

I was wondering though, is a dark wood version in the pipeline too?

wow


so when are you gonna make a lugar replacement for the p38...i coulda swore that you said that somewhere.

:eek:

wow sproily that is looking real good, you've come a long way. keep it up.

Yeah, bmartinson13. I was going to, but lack of references I decided to give up on it.

STG44 is pretty much coming, P38 too, im not fully sure about the FG42, BAR and MG42.

Most are just speculation, not promises :P

wow nice man...thats gonna be awesome...looking forward too ur next bits of work

Thought I'd make a dark version too,

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/7805/lightndark9tq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Loving the dark version. It's the one I'm going to be grabbing when you release this.

Aw man... it's perfect. It reminds me of some of Brutal's stuff.

I wanna use it now so badly! Compile compile compile!

Im afraid it isnt possible... until someone does custom anims... :o

probably a stupid question, but im going to ask it anyway :).
Why can't the default animations be applied to this skin / model?

Not a stupid question at all, Didnt understand it myself either at first.

The thing is, Valve somehow used a newer technique for the hands, so if you decompile the model the hands are all crooked and.. just... wrong

We aint entirely sure what its about but we're trying to solve it.

So unless we get someone to animate it, we cant get it in source. 1.3 is possible

ah, so the mp40 (new model, skinned by you) was made out of pure magic? :P

That was a different case, he messed it up or something so it worked.

as i understand it, only the garand has this problem (as far as i know).... So it was not a problem for the MP40 to use the default animations (also a new model).

But thats sad to hear :( Hope there will be someone to animate it, the skin and model looks very good.
Btw, not to hi-jack this thread, but what happend to the FG-42? Haven't seen anything about that for awhile... Same problem (animations)?

UV maps :P

Quite impressed.

Loving the dark wood version:)

Wow...........Sweet.

Looking really good, man. Loving the dark wood version :) Btw, I wasn't *****ing, I was making suggestions.

Anyway, should you want them, here's a link to some pics of my rifle. The pics suck, I had to sell the rifle, and I can't find my other pics, so this is the best I can offer you for real reference pics. Might give you some ideas on what places wear on the finish and whatnot. If you want more pics, I can look through my old backup cd's. Just lemme know.

http://files.dodnetwork.com/download.php?userid=133&imagel=Winchester%20M1%20pics.rar

@ [eF]Rommel: Cute :p

Thought I'd do some addons... :/

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4038/bayonettebaguette3iy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1448/arse2vm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

*yes* i suck at skinning / knifes

guess what? this is my second knife uv, and skin too!

yea its a bayo

The knife looks great! What are you talking about!

you gonna do the rifle grenade attachment? bayo looks cool

nice bayonet! I really like the skinning job you did on the handle. :cool:

I'd like to see an M203 grenade launcher on the end of that...

Anyways, looks really nice, but if you use the rifle nade attachment, wouldn't that be a little... awkward?

the bayonet wouldn't be attached, obviously.

I love it :D, only dunno if the bayo will work if u use the nade launcher ingame, i think they will clip.. :( when itll be released? :D

oy vie, then Take the bayonet Off, damn is it That hard to understand. this is not at Sproily

Well, theres a c-version coming so I thought the bayo could be on that one. (for spring)

Will there be a Garand + Bayo replacement for the knife?

If it works.. why not.

Hey, guys and gals.

I'm gonna post this WIP screenshot on here, mabey just post a finished one on other forums :)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5724/dodargentan00001hx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I've fixed the wood so it looks more varnished, it just isnt compiled yet.

good to see some progress to get it ingame :P

secksy. ;)

looks nice, but maybe make the sight a bit bigger and the whole model aswell, for the rest...:cool: very nice!

RELEASE!

PERFECT!! Absolutely beautiful!!! Looks at the prettyful bayo..teeeeheee heee!!

Before you go switching the sight's hole could you give us an IS screen??

dont make the peep hole bigger, looks dumb on the defualt model.

Before you go switching the sight's hole could you give us an IS screen?? [/B]

I aint changing the hole to be honest, it's fine.

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6425/dodargentan00019ii.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Yeah it is!!! I was just saying that for all of those people who would automatically demand it without seeing it first :p.

Looks amazing!

Thanks :)

Good job Sproily, looks ace :)

THE FRONT SIGHT IS WRONG.

HO. LEE. SHEET.

CALL ZAO! BAN! MOD ABUSE!

Originally posted by engineer
THE FRONT SIGHT IS WRONG.

HO. LEE. SHEET.

CALL ZAO! BAN! MOD ABUSE!

x2

Whilst I hate how much of the front sight you see with the regular Garand, that just looks wrong.

Aside from that though...

Mewant. :(

Just to ease your mind think of it as the soldier filed it down for better aiming :). I know I would have.

I wouldn't have, knowing me the point would be off center. :p

Just noticed something...the metal part where the back of the irontsight is, is crooked. You can notice it on the first person-model and in the IS view.

-edit-
nvm just looked at a garand and it's like that....*hides*

Spam and name calling cleaned out from thread. :mod:

Wow, looks great ingame. Could be a little larger though; the scale seems a bit off.

I think the size looks spot on.

so how long till u think u will release this???...cuz think it looks real nice man and i look forward to using it

Same! I wanna see this released!

Soul-Slayer who's compiling this is on a trip, It will be released soon after he comes back.

Here are some more shots

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/6213/dodflash00042fk.jpg

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8384/dodflash00063ge.jpg

OH GOD JUST RELEASE THIS ALREADY!!!!!!

That looks fantastic Sproily! Very well done job. Your work is exceptional :D

Originally posted by Zero724
OH GOD JUST RELEASE THIS ALREADY!!!!!!
wait..........stop telling him to release it, he gets the message, but your gonna have to wait and have patience.
Very good model, but I have to say the front sight on the m1 while hes reloading looks a bit strange.

Wow, it's looking fantastic!

Would it be pushing my luck to ask for a SS of the dark wood skin too? Thats the one im looking forward too;)

Originally posted by Warlord-Sco-
Wow, it's looking fantastic!

Would it be pushing my luck to ask for a SS of the dark wood skin too? Thats the one im looking forward too;)

Check out the blued Kar in the WIP forums. That looks like it has a good future.

Originally posted by Zero724
Check out the blued Kar in the WIP forums. That looks like it has a good future.

Ummm, correct me if I am wrong, but i believe this thread is Short_Fuses garand thread:confused:

I don't want to look at a Kar, i would like to see the dark wood garand:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Warlord-Sco-
Ummm, correct me if I am wrong, but i believe this thread is Short_Fuses garand thread:confused:

I don't want to look at a Kar, i would like to see the dark wood garand:rolleyes:

Crap I thought you said Kar! Im so sorry wow. I misread stuff too much!

OH YEA! I saw the SS so I thought you meant german rifle. Sorry.

Well, I made a darker wood skin, I havent converted it to a .vtf yet so when I do, you will see an ingame of that too.

Stephenson, I looked at the front sight long too, it looked weird.






...But theres a bayonet.

edit.

here

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7198/dodanzio00029oi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I'll be getting the darkwood one ^_^

ya, I thinks that the only thing I can see wrong, everything else looks good.

Originally posted by Lt. Stephenson
ya, I thinks that the only thing I can see wrong, everything else looks good.

Wrong? Whats wrong?

the sight is 2 small, but for the rest its very good :D

Originally posted by Drowned Fish
the sight is 2 small, but for the rest its very good :D

Aye, but realistic. Its made that way so that you have better focus on the target. Really nifty if I must say.

However it may pose a problem with the IS in the game, so could we perhaps have a little preview Screenie of it in IS mode? That would be great :)

page 5 of this thread has an ironsight preview;)

But as others have said, the model's frontsight should not come to a point, other than that, great job, looking forward to release.

http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/nomenclaturephotos/nomenfrontsightandscrew.jpg

Originally posted by Warlord-Sco-
page 5 of this thread has an ironsight preview;)

Haha, forgive me for that then. I checked every page *but* #5. It looks pretty good :carrot:

I realise the front site doesnt come to a point i had an ass load of reference. The reason it goes to a point is so its easier to use ingame, specially looking through iron sites.

Originally posted by Short_Fuse
I realise the front site doesnt come to a point i had an ass load of reference. The reason it goes to a point is so its easier to use ingame, specially looking through iron sites.

I will give you that, because no one likes aiming with that big huge block at the end, but in reality, it wasnt that obtrusive, because its small size made it just fine for its purpose. But anyways, I realize why you did it, and it looks good nonetheless.

I do love to use the garand so I am awaiting the release on this one, looks good.

Originally posted by Short_Fuse
I realise the front site doesnt come to a point i had an ass load of reference. The reason it goes to a point is so its easier to use ingame, specially looking through iron sites.

Actually, it would be just as workable to have it flat across the top, but have the post slightly thinner than it currently is.