Well I guess I was the only person sat at home waiting for the release so that I could get mapping again, that said has anyone seen where the FGD is located? I cant find it but then its late and I might have missed it.

If its not there is there any news on when we can expect to see the SDK update or something?

Thanks in advance

I just asked Mugsy about it, and he doesn't know how that'll be released. He'll try and bug the right guys, so whenever I know something I'll report back.

yeah i was looking foward to starting a dod s map. :angry:

Yeah I was hoping for that too. THen again if I wasn't hungry I would be busy playing the game right now.
This gives me time to eat so I can play in full effect.

Please give us FGD soon

lol, it says Day Of Defeat: Source in my source sdk but when i click on it in the drag down menu it keeps bringing me back to the Half-Life 2 option. Its playign mind games with me.

they'll release it as a Source SDK update no doubt

my source sdk doenst even show day of defeat. and the fgd just aint there. Damn damn damn.

Can someone with the beta please post it?? Fuzzdad?? Help!

yea I was also looking for it as soon as I got home...ready to start some quality mapping....dev team...do you have it for us? Pretty please?

lets have an example map too plz! anything but avalance because that map bites as far as being sexual goes.

I'd like to see anzio released as an example map. I think it covers a lot of areas for mapping. Great SkyBox (and area beyond gameplay area), water (and with a nice blue look to it instead of the regular clear), lot's of great style and textures, great HDR, etc etc etc... So, it gets my vote for a sample map.

Too bad I don't think there is a chance in #$@% that will ever happen. But, regardless, any sample map would be nice. I can't wait to start trying my hand at a DoD:S map.

Can't wait to start mapping and yes a sample map would be great :)

Originally posted by Furyo
I just asked Mugsy about it, and he doesn't know how that'll be released. He'll try and bug the right guys, so whenever I know something I'll report back.

Good morning guys and thanks for your help Furyo,

Originally posted by TheMiede
lol, it says Day Of Defeat: Source in my source sdk but when i click on it in the drag down menu it keeps bringing me back to the Half-Life 2 option. Its playign mind games with me. [/B]

How in the heck did you get it to say that? absolutley no sign of DOD-S in my SDK.

Oh well I guess I'll just have to make to with playing this great game first for a while :p

my sdk listed dod:s earlier today, but when I tried to run it it said bad gameinfo.txt. checked back after reading this thread and it was gone again :confused:

Originally posted by Watchtower
my source sdk doenst even show day of defeat. and the fgd just aint there. Damn damn damn.

Can someone with the beta please post it?? Fuzzdad?? Help!

WT, it would be completely useless. Both FD's and my map crash currently halfway through loading. We're missing a good chunk of entities, and the beta fgd we have is just that: a beta. It won't work.

My guess is that flash will be released with the sdk, if there's a map at all. Valve seems to give good, complete maps that don't give away all of their super secrets.

There is a program that converts them to .maps and they are actually complete and not junky like the HL1 bsp converter. I used it to look at some CS:S stuff. Helped a lot with learning how they did stuff.

still no sign of it ?

Originally posted by Apo||o
My guess is that flash will be released with the sdk, if there's a map at all. Valve seems to give good, complete maps that don't give away all of their super secrets.

Id have hopped that it would have been released ASAP, as there were only 4 maps on release it's a great time for custom mappers to get their work noticed and the community is probably more open to custom maps due to the limited choice.

but what do I know :p

fingers crossed it wont be long

no news on an official .rmf yet.

we've asked the devs/valve about it (a while ago) so hopefully we'll here soon about it. we'll keep everyone posted if we hear anything, but valve or the devs may just post something direct.

tbd...

hope so, im itching to get started on all those levely models and textures :)

I'm afraid to see in the .gcf that the official maps are until 40-50 megaoctet.

If the players see that they must download 40-50 mega, they don't download it.

In today's world of technology, probably 85% who play dod/dod:s do it on broadband. This being said, as long as the maps are hosted with good bandwidth behind it, downloading 40MB isn't a problem.

People won't mindlessly DL maps though, so they'll want to see screen shots and be impressed before thinking about it.

to me its a real shame dod:s wasnt acompanied by the relative SDK additions. cmon gabe get onto it son

Mugsy is working on it

Originally posted by Furyo
Mugsy is working on it

we :donrluvs: Mugsy,,,,,, and Furyo ;)

As per Mugsy's words to me:


"It'll be announced when it's ready"

Lol, keep your hopes up :)

wow thats fkn slack. it should have been made ready apon the release of dod:s.

40 mB files + enable http on server = happy fast downloading people or robots

AFAIK steam compresses the maps for transfer. I was test playing my map and some guy joined (I'm too lazy to switch to LAN mode). A status message announced that it's compressing the map and it turned out to be somewhat around 3.5 MB then (10,5 MB uncompressed). Dunno if that also works for HTTP download tho.

I hope you're right.

maybe when dod:s is available in sdk, Valve will make a map contest, as they made for hl2:dm.
it would be great

Set a password silly :p

Ya with DoDS out I better set one. :D Didn't care bout the CSS guys trying to join.

Poor Mugsy, the guys seem to be very busy now. 1st update after just 24 hours ...

Originally posted by Furyo
As per Mugsy's words to me:

"It'll be announced when it's ready"

Lol, keep your hopes up :)

Hhmm sounds like you woke someone up and threw him out of the wrong side of the bed!

Just to get me all excited my SDK updated this AM but theres nothing new.

I dont actually understand what the problem is with the mapping files, obviousley they are there or there would be no maps! dont want to start winging I just dont understand the situation.

I'm sure it's more about prioritizing things. Mugsy told me he had bugs to fix before he would work on the sdk update, and I can only assume those bugs are those from yesterday's update. So he's working on it, and once the Steam guys are ready to push the download, then we'll have it.

Seriously the game has been out 36 hours now, I can kill time playing if I need to wait for some more days before the update is upon us.

Originally posted by Furyo
I'm sure it's more about prioritizing things. Mugsy told me he had bugs to fix before he would work on the sdk update, and I can only assume those bugs are those from yesterday's update. So he's working on it, and once the Steam guys are ready to push the download, then we'll have it.

Seriously the game has been out 36 hours now, I can kill time playing if I need to wait for some more days before the update is upon us.

Ah ok thanks, cant say id noticed too many bugs but by the look of the update they did :)

Good point really I may lock my-self in, not go to work and just play DOD-S till the SDK update comes just to make the time fly :D

Here's what Jeff had to say on VERC forums:

That is correct. The next SDK release will update the tools to allow HDR (and Day of Defeat: Source) content to be generated. Due to release schedule conflicts it was not possible to release it simultaneously with the rest of the engine updates, but it is coming.


Jeff Lane
Valve Software

And to the question: Will it also be possible to integrate HDR content into 3rd party mods with this next update?

Jeff replied:

That is the current plan. There may be a smaller interim update before all of the HDR content is included, but that's looking less likely now. We'd like to get this out to SDK users as quickly as possible.


Jeff Lane
Valve Software

Cool. Um, quick question guys:

I'm guessing the Source SDK only comes with HL2, and I won't be able to use it with a DoD:S only purchase, correct?

You will be able to use it, only you won't have access to the HL2 models/textures (nor CSS if you haven't bought it either) Quite a few of them fit a WWII theme...

Originally posted by Furyo
WT, it would be completely useless. Both FD's and my map crash currently halfway through loading. We're missing a good chunk of entities, and the beta fgd we have is just that: a beta. It won't work.

Mine loads:


(Note: Deadly Old Version)

But as you can see...its not right. I don't have the Beta set up anymore for mapping after Steam died and I had to reinstall everything!

Its missing all the beta textures and models as well as placing detail sprites for the 3D skybox in the maps textures. Flags and timers semi-work but thats it.

I probably have the old beta fgd on my old PC back at home but I doubt I'd be able to release it as the team would probably go nuts.

probably go nuts

You think???? ;)

Originally posted by Furyo
You think???? ;)


Depends on how long the DoD:S sdk update is going to take.

There are a few things I'd like to look at that I'm sure the beta fgd will answer ;)

So I can use the SDK even with DoD:S only? ... where do I get it? It's not present on my games list.

I am hoping for some demo map with source and quick tutorial too :)

I'm sure they will have some kind of tutorial maps, to show how to use all the HDR entities.

Remember you can easily get a map going in dod, just with no flags for now.

So get to work on a small TDM map for people to play until you get the fgd. Ive already got one in the works.

Originally posted by {GL}DoubleD
So I can use the SDK even with DoD:S only? ... where do I get it? It's not present on my games list.

Yes you can, try scrolling to the very bottom of your games list, you should see "tools" and "source SDK" and that is there.

when you have the SDK run it and to map you want to use Hammer Editor at the top.

Have fun :D

Originally posted by [oap]Agent_S
Yes you can, try scrolling to the very bottom of your games list, you should see "tools" and "source SDK" and that is there.

when you have the SDK run it and to map you want to use Hammer Editor at the top.

Have fun :D

Sorry it's not listed there. I think you have to buy HL2 to get it.

Originally posted by Craftos
I am hoping for some demo map with source and quick tutorial too :)

:confused:

I see a number of servers running "dod_icecaverns". So how was this done if the fgd hasn't been released yet? Did the beta fgd get leaked or something? :confused:

I hope I don't have to wait a year for the fgd, like I had to wait for dod:s after paying for it.

meh, even if there are servers playing ice caverns, we arn't missing much. You basically fight around a big white box with snow on the ground. Very basic CS map and it seems like nothing has changed about it since then. I'd rather wait for the SDK update wait than play maps that make Wolfenstien 3D look like a Pixar movie.

Originally posted by jcb
I see a number of servers running "dod_icecaverns". So how was this done if the fgd hasn't been released yet? Did the beta fgd get leaked or something? :confused:

I hope I don't have to wait a year for the fgd, like I had to wait for dod:s after paying for it.

http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54942

Hey Furyo

How far is the fgd away with Mugsy??
im not trying to rush just want to no the progress with it...

You'll know when we'll know, and that's when it'll be released. How's that for an answer? ;)

Originally posted by cjffrex
Sorry it's not listed there. I think you have to buy HL2 to get it.

You dont need HL2 or anything else for the SDK as it is a tool for making games on the source engine etc so it is free.

I have had a look on the internet and cant find anyone else with ur problem so a good bet is prob just to e-mail Valve and ask them how you can obtain it or what the problem is.

Originally posted by lil|:CNTZ:|*Chiefw AND jcb
How far is the fgd away with Mugsy??


Mappers are by the nature of our work very patient people we can wait :D

The lack of an FGD dosent actually stop you from mapping for source, you can still make all your terrain / buildings etc, so just do what you can and get it ready for all the entities.

It actually may very well be that if your only source game is DoD Source, and since the Dod Source SDK isn't out, that those guys can't see the SDK in their games menu. That would make sense...

It remains that once it's out you'll be able to download it

Try this, this helped me get everything working for the moment.


http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55183

Originally posted by Craftos
I am hoping for some demo map with source and quick tutorial too
Originally posted by haircut
:confused:
What is so hard to understand in this sentence ?

Originally posted by haircut
http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54942

Ah, so we can add the info_player_start and rename to info_player_axis, info_player_allies.. that works for now :)

Cheers!

Originally posted by DJ_Duffy
I'd rather wait for the SDK update wait than play maps that make Wolfenstien 3D look like a Pixar movie.

:D :D

hi
there's a hl2 ent editor out.
here (http://www.geocities.com/cofrdrbob/entspy.html)
it won't open a dods bsp yet but you can add basic dods spawns to your hl2 or css bsp.

Originally posted by jcb
Ah, so we can add the info_player_start and rename to info_player_axis, info_player_allies.. that works for now :)

Cheers!

Glad it worked :D

for the moment, I shall suggest this as a temporary solution to the official fgd:

http://www.dayofdefeat.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55247

Originally posted by Craftos
What is so hard to understand in this sentence ?

Nothing ... I was confused by you asking the question :D

cheese-sarnie ... try EntEd .. works with DoD:S maps: http://ented.mybigspoon.com/

StreamlineData ... nice fix for now but we need the proper one ... tbh :D

Originally posted by haircut
StreamlineData ... nice fix for now but we need the proper one ... tbh :D well, I know that :P
That's why I said "temporary solution"

actually, i have one account that has hl2 on it and it has the sdk available. and i have another account with dod:source on it and no sdk. any idea if sdk is going to be released for people that only have dod:s?

Originally posted by eddi.
actually, i have one account that has hl2 on it and it has the sdk available. and i have another account with dod:source on it and no sdk. any idea if sdk is going to be released for people that only have dod:s?
It doesn't make a difference whether or not you *only* have DODS and/or have other source/hl2 games. The SDK/FGD is released all at the same time as everybody else.

I understand the SDK update should come in a week or so. It should not only have the DoD FGD but also new build tools etc. for HDR. There should be an associated Hammer update as well although I'm not sure what's new/changed/etc.

Originally posted by FuzzDad
I understand the SDK update should come in a week or so. It should not only have the DoD FGD but also new build tools etc. for HDR. There should be an associated Hammer update as well although I'm not sure what's new/changed/etc.

Thanks for the update Fuzzdad, you do realise people are gonna hang u now if it dosent come! :p

Cant wait, while playing the game today I had an idea to make several maps that go together to make a campaign, starting on the beaches and working inland etc.

Originally posted by [oap]Agent_S
Thanks for the update Fuzzdad, you do realise people are gonna hang u now if it dosent come! :p

Cant wait, while playing the game today I had an idea to make several maps that go together to make a campaign, starting on the beaches and working inland etc.

The operative word of the day my friend is *should* as in "...the SDK update *should* come in a week or so..."

cheese-sarnie ... try EntEd .. works with DoD:S maps: http://ented.mybigspoon.com/

thx for the link haircut.
i didn't realise entedit could do hl2 maps. i tried it ages ago but found bspedit to be easier on my limited brain resourses, i'll give it another whirl :)

Last word from Erik Johnson in the HL coder mailing list, it will take them a couple of weeks to finish up the next sdk update. :l

Originally posted by Apu
Last word from Erik Johnson in the HL coder mailing list, it will take them a couple of weeks to finish up the next sdk update. :l

/me takes in a deep breath,,,,

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
:D

Ah well at least the operative word there is finish up, so they are working on it, thanks for the info Apu

After seeing a few where are the SDK threads I'm going to bump this thread with a few important quotes.

Originally posted by FuzzDad
I understand the SDK update should come in a week or so. It should not only have the DoD FGD but also new build tools etc. for HDR. There should be an associated Hammer update as well although I'm not sure what's new/changed/etc.

Originally posted by Furyo
As per Mugsy's words to me:

"It'll be announced when it's ready"

Lol, keep your hopes up :)

Hope it helps.