[MWIP] Caen Tank hack job


Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 01:06 PM
How do,

Here's another map model hack job I'm working on. its the standard King Tiger from Caen but with a dead tank commander leaning out of the hatch (Dev's SS pack).

Comments/suggestions/ideas?

http://www.dodsupply.co.uk/images/tank.JPG

Ska

JAJAHU
05-19-2003, 01:08 PM
haha awesome idea dude.

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 01:11 PM
Cheers, I've had the idea for ages but have been to busy or lazy to do it.

I'll reskin the commander so he looks more burnt/bloody.

Ska

05-19-2003, 01:17 PM
Burn him!
Also, rip his left arm apart and make it lie on the ground nearby >:)

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 01:19 PM
I was thinking of doing that actually lol

Should i put his hat back on or leave it lying on the tank near his hands?

Ska

Greco
05-19-2003, 01:21 PM
leave it lying there

Ikujinonai
05-19-2003, 01:21 PM
Haha, that's pretty fun and creative. I like it!

RealyPssd
05-19-2003, 01:22 PM
Looks great :D

Dillinger
05-19-2003, 01:26 PM
Nice work! :D

05-19-2003, 01:28 PM
lol

05-19-2003, 01:29 PM
I'd lose the armband, kinda ahistorical. Field units, even the Waffen SS didn't wear those.

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 01:30 PM
cheers for the support lads. This only took me about five minutes to make so it still needs alot of work before I'll release.

I'm pretty crap with skins so could some who bloody up his face and burn his face/uniform a bit for me? I'll have a go myself but it wont be too good.

Ska

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 01:32 PM
I dint skin the model but I'll try and lose the armband. I thought it would be best to make the commander an SS unit as it was the 12th SS (I think, correct me if wrong) that fought our 2nd Army boys in Caen.

Ska

HS The Whap
05-19-2003, 01:42 PM
That is simply the best idea ever. Great work.

05-19-2003, 01:45 PM
thats awsome a fellow 12th SS commander gets burnt todeath :(

lol thats awsome ill use it.

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by HS The Whap
That is simply the best idea ever. Great work.

*ego inflates to the size of a car*

Cheers for the praise lads lol I had this idea for ages but never got roudn to doing it. I'll try and get this finished as soo nas possible then I'll make a British Version for Jagd.

Ska

Guerilla
05-19-2003, 01:50 PM
the soldier is detailed but the tank skin sucks, i dont know why they ditched the 3.1 wrecked skin for that blurry watered down skin...could someone care to reskin it with a nice 256x256 or 512x512 texture?, its so blurry, agh, lol good work btw :D

Russ. Conscript
05-19-2003, 01:51 PM
Can i make him bloody? plzzzz? i love making bloody ppl. i made my own zombie for DOD a while back. or you could do it on your own, tis cool, ill use it any how.

one thing though, could you make him a tank commander? like a panzer guy, with the big hat. (remembers scene in SPR of tank commander with cool hat and jet black clothing/ battle of ramelle)

great idea anyhow :D

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 01:57 PM
Righto. I'll find a nice tank commander hat for him (I think Dev had one of his old V3 SS trench coat pack hmmmm). PM me your e-mail Russ and I'll e-mail you the skins for the commanders face and body.

Anyone wanna reskin the tank too please? You can find it in your dod map models folder, called KingTiger, submodel 2.

Ska

Devin Kryss
05-19-2003, 02:04 PM
I have a few suggestions, and maybe I can even help.

First off, their all right, no SS people in the feild wore those armbands. However, I dont think an evil SS pack would be complete without one, so I threw it in. I could post a bmp without hte armbands if you wish, so Ska can use that texture instead, and anyone who wants to use SSv4 without it can use it too.

Secondly, that tank blows, doesnt do the commander justice. Why not see if you can bring back one of the old 3.1 tanks, those were nice, and Im pretty sure there was a busted one.

Thrid, if hes going to be a tank commander, one of those big hats would look nice. Ive got one you could use, you know my MSN. Also, he needs a pair of those radio headphones, for that Panzer Commander look.

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 02:09 PM
Cheers for the tips Dev, as always your a great help.

I'll see what i can about the head phones.

Ska

Russ. Conscript
05-19-2003, 02:10 PM
now where ta get some radio headphones... D: that would look awesome on him.

btw exactly HOW torn up do you want this guy to be? i could rip half his face off exposing some teeth and jaw. mabey spoon out an eye or something.

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 02:14 PM
Could you jus make his uniform burnt with some blood around the collar or down his front.

About the face, jus try some different stuff out. mabye one where he is jus burnt and another where he is a total bloody mess. Jus go wild russ, im sure it'll all look great. If you make a few combinations we could jus release them all and let people use the ones they like the best.

Ska

05-19-2003, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Russ. Conscript
now where ta get some radio headphones... D: that would look awesome on him.

btw exactly HOW torn up do you want this guy to be? i could rip half his face off exposing some teeth and jaw. mabey spoon out an eye or something.

so much for teen rating.. j/k :P That sounds awsome, id like to see that

Flammenwerfer
05-19-2003, 02:24 PM
I have a request, make that tank bigger. The wierdest looking thing in the game. looks like a King Tiger tank but is about the size of a panzer 2

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 02:30 PM
Should i jus rip the tank from Caen in Beta 3.1 and put that on instead?

its seem like everyone hates the new tanks (gotta admit they are a wee bit crap :) )

Ska

05-19-2003, 02:32 PM
/me votes in favour of the complete bloody mess face

Excellent job tho m8, I think he needs those headphones or hat or summat tho. GW m8

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 02:34 PM
LEEDS!!!!!

I'm from Leeds. Little town called Kippax towards Castleford way.

Ska

Dances w Wolves
05-19-2003, 02:43 PM
as ever mate truely fantastic!

05-19-2003, 02:46 PM
How about giving the body a gun? You could have it be just a luger but if you where really creative you could figure out a way to have a mp40 hanging off the side of the tank with the sling caught around the guys arm. :)

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 02:50 PM
I can add a gun to him no problem. I could take the MP40 off the gun and lay it on the tank so it looked like he was in such a hurry that he dropped his mag and then got killed before he could pick it back up and reload.

ALL of these ideas are fantastic, please keep them coming lads!!!

Ska

Russ. Conscript
05-19-2003, 02:53 PM
and here we have the victim of a tank burning, notice how the flesh is melted around the mouth, exposing the teeh, and jaw.. (http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/missing%20teeh.jpg)

i have a lighter, not so gory one, where his jaw is not exposed.

05-19-2003, 02:54 PM
That would be sweet with the mag on laying on the tank. Better yet have 3 or 4 mags laying on the tank and add some bullet shells around them make it look like he was valiantly holding off the enemy while his crew escaped or something.

05-19-2003, 03:08 PM
That's wicked m8, great to see another tyke on 'ere. :P

I'm actually from Pudsey, but I moved to Canada 11 years ago or summat like that. My nickname in highschool was Leeds so that's what I always use :D

Devin Kryss
05-19-2003, 03:11 PM
Thats GROSS Con....

















I loved it.

05-19-2003, 03:16 PM
Con, that's great!!! See if you pop and eye out as well...

haha

05-19-2003, 03:17 PM
thats awsome man good job

Russ. Conscript
05-19-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Devin Kryss
Thats GROSS Con....


I loved it.

i feel another zombie pack coming on... :D

but thats besides the point here :p

i love this idea, and i cant wait to see it done. next im gonna work on the body, rip some clothes, bullet holes? burn makrs, the works. ill' also try and add some 12th SS insignia.

05-19-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Ska_Wars
it was the 12th SS (I think, correct me if wrong) that fought our 2nd Army boys in Caen.

Ska

aye thats right ;)
oh and i support Leeds Utd. although, they havnt had a good season, better next obvously. and NO Kewell or Robinson are NOT going to Man Utd.

gj

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 03:31 PM
WOW! Con that looks sweet mate!

Please keep that as its own version and then make a version with the eye poped out. Personally I dont really want the eye popped out as it seems unlikely that a bullet wound would do that.

Anyhow, ****ing great work!

heres a pic with the SS cap on that Devin got for me (Thanks again dev for all the help!)

Its not too good an angle, but you get the idea.

http://www.dodsupply.co.uk/images/tank2.JPG

Ska

Devin Kryss
05-19-2003, 03:36 PM
Arrrr....

05-19-2003, 03:37 PM
That looks sweet, but wouldn't his cap've fallen off in that position? Not tryin to be picky or anythin I was just thinkin...

Tho the eye gouged thing wouldn't be very realsitic... it's still look great haha

(Andyou're right, there's NO WAY that Kewell and Robbo are goin to ManYoo, but Dacourt can sod off)

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 03:40 PM
Nah, I'm going to try and get head phones on him so they would keep his hat on you see. I'll try putting the hat on top of the tank as though it has fallen off too though, to see how it looks.

BTW does anyone have a hi-poly p/w model of an MP40 that I could give to the commander? If so please PM me.

Cheers,

Ska

Russ. Conscript
05-19-2003, 04:15 PM
the hat looks awesome, leave it there :D

and, get a load of his missing eye. im surprised my self, looks quite scary. notice how i made the skin sag around the hole.

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 04:30 PM
I take it back, that does look bloody good. I was expecting a real b-movie, eye popping out thing but that looks very realistic. I imagine thats what someone would look like after being shot in the eye lol Can't wait to see the uniform.

Ska

05-19-2003, 04:34 PM
$%"§$% GREAT IDEA!

When I first read the topic, I was like: "Hey, I have a good tank idea too! How about a dead tank commander at the top?" Then I saw the pic, and I was like: O_O'
;)

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 04:37 PM
Yeah, to me it seems like a really obvious idea. I had this floating around my head for ages but i dint do it cos:

1) I assumed someone else already had
2)I'm lazy
3) I din't think anyone would give **** really, I'm amazing that its got such a good reception.

once this is done and dusted I'll make a British version and mabye a US Jeep version or summat lol

At this rate I'll have to release a map models pack lol

Ska

Devin Kryss
05-19-2003, 04:45 PM
OMFG Russ im going to fuxking vomit!!!!

Ralfst3r
05-19-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Dryfear
I'd lose the armband, kinda ahistorical. Field units, even the Waffen SS didn't wear those.

and maybe give him a pair of binoculars?

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 04:48 PM
I could mabye have the bincos hanging from around his neck down, but you probally wouldn't see them in game.

Its nearly midnight over here in the UK so I'm gonna down tools for the night. Please keep all the suggestions and comments coming in. I'm amazed what a good response this has got, thanks for all the support lads, I jus hope your all happy with the end product.

Ska

HS The Whap
05-19-2003, 05:01 PM
I do see one issue:
We have this amazing highpoly, uber high-res skined guy, ontop of a uber low-poly, uber low-res skined tank. If you want this to reach its fullest effect, try to get a skin off for the tank :)

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 05:04 PM
i was thinking of jus replacing the whole tank with a higher poly one. Can anyone suggest a good tank model?

Ska

Russ. Conscript
05-19-2003, 05:05 PM
oh and the horror does not stop there!

i took a knife to his head, and made a gash, also sindered off the hair in the surrounding area. eval :D

lol its a lil overboard, mut meh. realistically, id stick with just a burned face. but for fun, id love to see this as well. ;)

HS The Whap
05-19-2003, 05:05 PM
Nah, the tank it self looks fine, the skin just looks bland. If you can get someone to make you an amazing King-Tiger skin, you would seriously have the best DoD model replacement ever.

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 05:08 PM
that looks gruesom Russ lol The only problem is that it will probally be hidden by the officer cap. If you get time could you possibly add some burns to his cheek of neck.

i can't wait to see what you do with the uniform.

Ska

HS The Whap
05-19-2003, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Russ. Conscript
oh and the horror does not stop there!

i took a knife to his head, and made a gash, also sindered off the hair in the surrounding area. eval :D

lol its a lil overboard, mut meh. realistically, id stick with just a burned face. but for fun, id love to see this as well. ;) I don't think its overboard, if a tank shell goes off, and blows you out the hatch, I think you'd have a gash down your head ;)

NeoSkink
05-19-2003, 05:21 PM
Ohh, another cool thing to add to my DoD! :D

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 05:28 PM
Heres a pic of the mp40 and some mags. Still needs some work but here it is.

BTW does anyone know where I can get some high poly bullet/shell casings and what the default ones are called (model name)

Cheers,

Ska

MaRzY
05-19-2003, 06:35 PM
Very creative GJ looking foward to it's realase.....:)

gabagoo
05-19-2003, 06:42 PM
awsome idea ska
big thumbs up:D

Corporal Rossi
05-19-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Ska_Wars
Heres a pic of the mp40 and some mags. Still needs some work but here it is.

BTW does anyone know where I can get some high poly bullet/shell casings and what the default ones are called (model name)

Cheers,

Ska

I think whiskas made some high poly ones. They might be for 3.1 but I'm sure they could be updated. Hmmm I smell a reskin coming on..... if only I could get some refrence pics....

Devin Kryss
05-19-2003, 06:47 PM
No, Whiskas just converted some high poly CS shells, but they are on his site.

Devin Kryss
05-19-2003, 06:49 PM
Oh, and Ska, you could always bend him over backward if you wanted people to see his face and his hat and stuff.

Devin Kryss
05-19-2003, 06:57 PM
!!!!!!!

WAY COOL IDEA!!!!!!


Take the officer model. And put the mp40 in his hands. And then, below his waist, attach a tank, and assign it to his bone BIP01, the bone that doesnt move

And delee every animation except the one of him holding his mp40 and look relaxed. Tehn test compile it, and you have a model, holding his mp40, out the turret of a tank. Then player with the origns, so his feet arent on the ground, but rather the tanks treads. and twist and scale the whole thing as needed. And that can be our new tank model. couple with this dead tank model, we have some serious asskicking going on here.

Maybe Ill give this a shot.

HS The Whap
05-19-2003, 07:04 PM
Thank god for people like you. You make my DoD look so amazing. <3 to Devin, Russ and Ska. :)

Devin Kryss
05-19-2003, 07:18 PM
*Tips hat that I dont have*

And thank Ska, hes the one who started this.

05-19-2003, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Devin Kryss
*Tips hat that I dont have*


*Goes to find a hat puts it on then tips it*

That is a really good job if only I had the technical knowledge to do that!

05-19-2003, 09:51 PM
Story of 12th SS Panzer Division tank commander---

After scouts reported the 2nd army up ahead, tank commander ordered a surprise ambush on them. With an evil laugh, he attempts to get the rear tanks to flank the British. SHWISH..BOOM! the rear tank gets blown sky high frm a rocket. Shots fired, Germans scattered, tank commander retreats back into the tank. With an abundance of ammo, he shot every individual enemy with a shot frm his 88mm cannon each. Ding, ding. A grenade tumbles into the tank.Blam! Tank commander wakes up to the sight of his crew torn apart. "Damn, i should have stayed home like my wife asked me to" he thought. Then, with a sudden surge of rage, fueled by the sight of his dead crew, he pick up 2 MP40s and slammed open the hatch. With great vengance and furious anger, he unleashed the double MP40s on the unsuspecting British soldiers who thought he was dead. The hail of bullets tore down 5 of em. " Die muthaf***as!" He screamed as he gunned down more men faster then you can say Fuhrer. But theres was too many of em. An explosion frm the left tore the tank commander's face. Unfaltered, he continued his galiant fight, with teeth and left eye gone. Splat! his right arm rolled down. SWIKT! the first bullet enters his liver. THen another and another.He stood erect as bullets puts holes in him like sliced cheese. "Telly Ho!" He heard. The last thing he thought of was how he f***ed up this attack. With a 90% blood drained and a burnt left side, he finally slumped down and relaxed.The war was over for him. The British troops continued their smoke break...

05-19-2003, 10:58 PM
Ooooh, the missing eye looks proper m8

*can't wait to see it in game*

And I totaly agree, the orignal tank doesn't do that bloke justice

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 02:29 AM
How do lads,

That story kicks ass lol I'll include it in the readme when this is finished if you want lol

@ Devin, I was thinking of slumping him back originally so I'll make a version of him of him back as well. As for having him in the cockpoit of the normal tank, it would work well as the levels where the tanks an entact (Vincenza i think) usually have the tanks tucked away and not right in the middle of the fighting so it would be pretty likely that the commander would be looking out of the top of the tank.

Cheers for all the help Dev and Russ, this model would jus look crap without your input, and thanks to everyone who has shown support for this project and shared their ideas. I jus hope your all happy with the final piece.

Ska

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 03:03 AM
Heres a quick reposition of the tank commander so he's leaning back. Still can't find any good headphones yet but I'll get some, don't worrk.

I think his head needs tilting alittle more backwards, but i dont wanna make it look like he's snapped his neck or owt lol

Ska

Sly Assassin
05-20-2003, 03:18 AM
Nice work going on here, one thing though if hes hanging back wouldn't his hat be off his head?

other then that fine work bro :D

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 03:23 AM
no cos he will be wearing tank head phones in the end so they would keep his hat on.

Ska

Sly Assassin
05-20-2003, 03:30 AM
KK sorry didn't see that ;)

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 03:37 AM
Dont worry, your not the first one to ask that and I doubt you'll be the last :)

Im posting my update pics in both this forum and the one at teh site i work for. Incase i forget to post the newest pics here, they should be at the dodsupply.co.uk

The addy for the thread is this. (http://www.gamesupply.co.uk/forum//index.php?act=ST&f=12&t=35&st=0&#entry223)

Ska

05-20-2003, 03:42 AM
Honestly, after looking at the pics on that link. I like him better without the cap.

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 04:03 AM
Im probally gonna stick with the tank commander hat though cos it will keep the History guys happy and will make him look more like a tank commander.

Ska

wind
05-20-2003, 04:17 AM
Just a thought, if the tank were to be hit by a Piat (with the available ones on the map :)), wouldn't you think that the guy inside would be scrambling to get out.

I'm thinking that he wouldn't of had much time to pick up a gun and fire off a few clips, while his tank was on fire after a rocket had just put a hole in the side... Anywho...

Hehehe.... very nice work on all the stuff that's being made. I await the product. Keep it up!! :D

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 04:24 AM
Read Blitzkreigbobs story and all will be revealed lol

Seriously though I doubt a PIAT could take out a Tiger from the front anyway as from what I've read about them, they weren't too effective.

Anyway, someone requested the gun and strew ammo. I think it makes the piece more dramatic. Although I dod like historically accurate and realistic games, at the end of the day its still just a game and the most important thing is that you enjoy playing it. And besides, it took me bloody ages to place all them shells right so I'm not taking them off now, so there :p lol

Ska

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 04:49 AM
heres a little ingame pic for you.

http://www.dodsupply.co.uk/images/ingametank.JPG

Ska

Dead
05-20-2003, 05:34 AM
VERY nice work. If you need a mirror for the finished think, mail me ;)

wind
05-20-2003, 05:36 AM
lol

I guess you're right there :D

Very nice work, though :)

05-20-2003, 05:38 AM
Tear his arm off... please :)
Also, put him back on his chest, it looked better

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 06:11 AM
I'll release too versions. One of his chest and one on his back. personally I prefer him leaning forward but it will block all the great skinning Russ is doing to his face.

I'll probally be out for most of this evening but I'll have a go at doing some more on him later tonight.

*EDIT* Do you think I should make a Tank Crew player hack job to go with this too? or would that just be a dumb idea?

Ska

Flammenwerfer
05-20-2003, 06:38 AM
i wouldn't bother making a tank crew player hack job.

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 06:45 AM
:( ok then lol

Ska

05-20-2003, 07:59 AM
They all died in the tank ;)

Purple Haze
05-20-2003, 09:10 AM
Lose a hate or put a correct one on.


Either this:
http://www.milprom.com/German/hats/M43-cap-black.jpg

http://www.panzerworld.net/Billeder/SS-uniform03

Or that:

http://www.panzerworld.net/Billeder/SS-uniform04


Also, IMHO blood on the uniform wouldn't look right because 1) his uniform is black and blood will hardly be visible on black 2) If he is burnt then blood would clot and turn into a very dark brown/black mass which is even harder to see on black background.

Oh and lose the gloves as well (gives Russ and opportunity to do something ghastly with those palms...) :eek:

[H2H]MetalHeart
05-20-2003, 09:25 AM
Looking GREAT ! Just can't wait for release... :D
I have an idea - maybe some blood flowing form his lips... ? Little streamlet.
How about this ? :)

Panzer Meyer
05-20-2003, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Purple Haze
Lose a hate or put a correct one on.

http://www.panzerworld.net/Billeder/SS-uniform04

Also, IMHO blood on the uniform wouldn't look right because 1) his uniform is black and blood will hardly be visible on black 2) If he is burnt then blood would clot and turn into a very dark brown/black mass which is even harder to see on black background.

Oh and lose the gloves as well (gives Russ and opportunity to do something ghastly with those palms...) :eek:

GO with the one above^^^

Btw, if possible add markings on the Tank. Add the 12thSS symbol on the front of it.

One thing, WHY is it a KINGTIGER?!?! There were no KING TIGERs in Cean. That is so wrong....

05-20-2003, 11:08 AM
this looks great m8 by the way i live near leeds just down the road (dewsbury) nice to see locals

Ralfst3r
05-20-2003, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Ska_Wars
i was thinking of jus replacing the whole tank with a higher poly one. Can anyone suggest a good tank model?

Ska

Make it a Jagdpanzer, it's my favorite tank ever! :)

gabagoo
05-20-2003, 01:06 PM
Ralfst3r what movies is your sig from ?:)

Residue
05-20-2003, 01:14 PM
gezzus er....ugh...con, when did u get so graphic with dod? lol. none the less, Con and Ska, Great job boys.

Ralfst3r
05-20-2003, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by gabagoo
Ralfst3r what movies is your sig from ?:)

It's from Enemy At The Gates (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0215750).

lastmanstanding
05-20-2003, 02:08 PM
nice idea :) just release it in different skins and positions plz :)
(and ralfster, nice sig ;) )

05-20-2003, 02:27 PM
Yeah great idea!

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Purple Haze
Lose a hate or put a correct one on.

If you want to request me to do something on this model ask politely please. I respect other people's oppinions and will listen and take note to whatever people say to me but I will 'take orders'. Next time, ask if I could 'lose the hat' and be sure to say 'please'. It may sound like I'm acting like a little *****, but I'm a very sensitive person :p lol

Originally posted by Panzer Meyer
One thing, WHY is it a KINGTIGER?!?! There were no KING TIGERs in Cean. That is so wrong....

i have no idea. Its jus the tank that is on the Caen map.

I will try and reskin the tank so it has a 12th symbol on it. If i did would it fall under the 'No nazi symbols' policy that germany seems to have? (Is that an official law or jus a question of taste?)

Ska

Rob
05-20-2003, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Russ. Conscript
now where ta get some radio headphones... D: that would look awesome on him.

btw exactly HOW torn up do you want this guy to be? i could rip half his face off exposing some teeth and jaw. mabey spoon out an eye or something.

Now THAT would be cool

Particularly if there was blood runing down the tank from beneath his head.

Rob
05-20-2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Ska_Wars
I will try and reskin the tank so it has a 12th symbol on it. If i did would it fall under the 'No nazi symbols' policy that germany seems to have? (Is that an official law or jus a question of taste?)


It is a law, but that only applies to official releases. For custom jobs, Nazi stuff is fair game.

Bishop
05-20-2003, 02:58 PM
Yea, theres no swastika 'policy' for custom stuff...but just be aware of german viewers of the forum and such.

and the 12th ss symbol didnt have a swastika?

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 02:58 PM
i haven't had time to work on this much today as I've been busy with revision (fecking exams)

But I did try tilting him back some more and opening up his mouth a little bit.

Ska

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 03:02 PM
heres another pic but this time without his teeth showing too much.

Ska

05-20-2003, 03:11 PM
dont take this the wrong way i could be wrong but when your in game him in tank is on a higher level will you be able to see the top of is face if on is back

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 03:13 PM
Not too sure i understand the question mate lol sorry.

Ska

05-20-2003, 03:17 PM
reason i ask this is if not it would not really matter much about how much teeth ect was showing ect

by the way ska you now dewsbury at all its near leeds

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 03:20 PM
Ah i get you now. Well to be honest, unless your on a higher level like the bank or the sniper windows you probally wont be ablt to see much of his face. But i jus thought it would be more realistic that he would have his mouth hanging open rather than clamped shut.

Yeah I know dewsbury. I've got some mates there so I pass through every so often.

Nice to see some lads from Northern England for a change :)

Ska

05-20-2003, 03:21 PM
still it will be cool and i will be downloading soon as you realese it

good work m8
true its nomaly dominated by southerners lol
:) :p :D

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 03:23 PM
All i really need now is to slap some head phones on him and get the skins of Russ and it should be ready.

I found some headphones on a custom model from RTCW, anyone know how I can get them into MS3d? If this is an IP violation i apoligise in advance.

EDIT Damn southern fairies! lol

Ska

05-20-2003, 03:25 PM
i know it can be done as theskin set iv got for the axis have rtcw
faces


true lol
by the way i have a thread in dod beta suport about a problem with fog if you now anything about it let me now please
as it as me stumpt

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 03:43 PM
There must be a way but I cant figure it out for the life of me lol

As for the fog thing, PM me about it and I'll see if i can help you out.

Ska

Panzer Meyer
05-20-2003, 04:00 PM
The 12th SS symbol doesn't have a swastika in it. So you should be good anyway. And so far it looks damn good, GJ.

And possibly, if you could make the tank look less black. I mean when a tank was knocked out, sometimes from looking at it, you couldn't tell. There would only be a small hole on the side of it.

UNLESS ofcourse, the AP shell hit the ammo or fuel tanks, HAHA! Turret blown off, and so on.

Anyway, if you could, make the tank look less black. More of a detail on it, and keep it as is. Just make it less charred looking. And maybe try to put holes on the side of it, from round penatrations. Texture vise anyway.

Thank you so much in advance for doing this!

Ska Wars
05-20-2003, 04:05 PM
Hows this? Put the normal tank skin but left the burnt out turret on?

I'll try and skin a shell hit on the left side near the blown off track.

Ska

Flammenwerfer
05-20-2003, 05:46 PM
that looks bad ass

Russ. Conscript
05-20-2003, 05:57 PM
ok well ive been busy doing this project for school, but ive gotten back to skinning him.

so heres the body, and it probobly wont look like uber burnt, scince his cloths are already black. i added quite a bit of blood, and tried to make it look like it was seeping through the cloth.

and i also used the face that wasent as ****ed up on this model.

Corporal Rossi
05-20-2003, 06:03 PM
great work guys

Devin Kryss
05-20-2003, 06:41 PM
Looks good Ska. Ill log on, you can send me those headhpones, ill see what I can do. If not I know sinister can probably help.

I just need to fix some animations on my tank guy sitting idle in the turret, and it will work.

Devin Kryss
05-20-2003, 06:49 PM
Oh,. and heres this, what i've gotten so far with the animated tank commander.

http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/panzer_commander.jpg

Russian-Soldier
05-20-2003, 07:04 PM
Devin.. i thought he was supposed to be moving? animated?

all i see is a picture (not an animation)...

Devin Kryss
05-20-2003, 07:13 PM
Well, i dont know about you, but i dont know how to make animated gifs. Its a jpg, jpgs dont move, so you dont see him animated. But if you look at the guy sticking out the top, you can see him wving his arm. Thats one of the animations. Hes waving for the rest to follow, i thinks the "mg_moveup" command.

05-20-2003, 08:06 PM
That could be really usefull for the guys making dod movies. Plus it would be quite funny to turn the corner on caen into the plaza and see a tank moving towards you. Too bad it'll just die with a couple of shots

Devin Kryss
05-20-2003, 08:09 PM
No, its going to stay still, and the guy inside will just stand there and wave and shout and stuff. Maybe i can make him paly a sound fo radio commands and yelling noises.

Bishop
05-20-2003, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Devin Kryss
No, its going to stay still, and the guy inside will just stand there and wave and shout and stuff. Maybe i can make him paly a sound fo radio commands and yelling noises.

I dont think so...i do believe noises/music must be 'coded' into the map.

05-20-2003, 08:14 PM
That would be kinda cool to put in a spawn point. Kinda like he was waving the renforcements in.

Devin Kryss
05-20-2003, 08:21 PM
How do you think weapons paly the relaoding sounds? Its the model.

Trp. Jed
05-20-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Bishop
I dont think so...i do believe noises/music must be 'coded' into the map.

You can actually, its a piece of cake.

Inside the models .qc file, find the sequence you want to add sound
too and just add a 5004 event followed by the frame number you want
the sound to play on and the sound you want to play. e.g.

{ event 5004 33 "weapons/tommy_reload_clipout.wav" }

- Jed

Bishop
05-20-2003, 08:29 PM
Whatever...i'll believe it when I see it.

05-21-2003, 04:31 AM
Great Idea! :D

(Keep in mind I have just read/skimmed read the topic)
However with all the gore and stuff bit OTT. When a tanks hit by a anti tank weapon the shell hits the side or whatever the internal armour flakes sending shrapnel bouncing around killing or incapacitating the crew, tanks blew up when hit by larger weapons. In caen (it looks like) the Brits used a PIAT, however I could be wrong with the morters...but I have never understood the point in the morters on the caen map, I would not send morters into a battle with my own troops in the same area lol I mean friendly fire! :D

Anyway the tank crew would have died and the commander would scramble out and run to safty (if he survived that is), well I would, and I dought pick up a couple of MP40's. There is bearly enough room for the crew not alone an MP40 for em! lol :D

Best visual picture I can give is when in MOH:AA you hit a tank the commander and any surving crew get out and run away or die on the turret.

Anyway enough of that, its a brill idea...its just a shame that when you make commanders for the brit tanks in jagd (which I read somewhere) that they could fight back with service revolvers. It would give the tanks a small, but very needed, amount of defence against the tank hunters but thats sommet for the suggestions forum....which I'm off to :)

Ska Wars
05-21-2003, 08:52 AM
The models are pretty much finished (jus need the headphones). Russ jus sent me the very cool skins (two different faces, one burnt & one ****ed up) so I'll jus slap them on the model and get some screenshots for you all.

I'll release two version of this in a zip. one with the guy lying back and one with him leaning forward.

@ Devin, that look cool. If you get it finished do you mind if I include it with mine so we have a custom 'normal' tank and a custom 'destroyed' one?

Ska

05-21-2003, 09:08 AM
Could you guys PLZ remove the swastika armbands from those models? I don't think they went into battle with those on and its killing me looking at those pics with big red armbands on.

Ska Wars
05-21-2003, 10:24 AM
Here you go lads, here's some screen shots as promised.

it took a while to get some good pics cos every time I was about to press F5 a bloody arty shell landed near the tank and blew me to pieces lol

Once again Russ has made a bloody fantastic skin. Here's some pics of the commander in back and forward positions and with either Russ' Burnt face or gory face.

hats off to you Russ!

http://www.dodsupply.co.uk/images/back_gory.JPG

http://www.dodsupply.co.uk/images/forward_gory.JPG

http://www.dodsupply.co.uk/images/back_burnt.JPG

Ska

lastmanstanding
05-21-2003, 10:36 AM
omg just release plz !!! u can do new versions of it or a final version but plz release the current version right now, i canīt wait !!!!!!

ARRRRRRRGH I WANT THAT HRHRHR !!!

05-21-2003, 11:15 AM
I'd have the arm blown off, but leave the hat on. One of those bizarre flukes of war.

Russ. Conscript
05-21-2003, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Ska_Wars
Once again Russ has made a bloody fantastic skin.


lol i see a pun ;)

lol anyways...





the model is awesome Ska! :D

we make a good team :)

one thing though, the teeth i skinned on him might not look right with his mouth open like that :cool: although it DOES look great with his mouth open also..

Oh and im making ONE more face, cuz i noticed the less gory version seemed to be lacking some blood on the one side of his face. ill just add a bit, to the other side and send it to ya Ska.

Ska Wars
05-21-2003, 12:11 PM
I was jus thinking the same thing about the teeth. For the model where his face is really gory I'll close his mouth up.

i can't find any decent head phones so I'm gonna try and make some.

Ska

gabagoo
05-21-2003, 04:21 PM
i just want to congradulate you Ska on thinking up an awsome idea;)

i love MSA:)

and the documents you thought up :D

i think the dev team needs the thinking cap your using :D

Ska Wars
05-21-2003, 04:34 PM
Cheers gab.

i usually jus get good ideas when I'm bored or have nothing to do (especially in maths class lol).

My girlfriend is off to greece next week so I'll be pretty much stuck at home bored with nothing to do, so expect a few releases then lol

Ska

Jello_Biafra
05-22-2003, 12:18 PM
that is awesome. the only think I think could be better is if you added a bit of blood on to the actual tank model.

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