Howdy, folks. Hope you can help...
Old time 1.3b player (and 2 and 3 too, heh).
Can anyone tell me, or better yet find, the old map that (it appears) Kraftstoff is based on? It had the same (long) church in the center (with passes on either side), the same big crater-and-arch on the way to the Axis side (on the left, if you're Allies), and had a cover-filled passage (with a flag in the middle) on the right side of the church. It also had that underpass thingie...But that used to be on the Axis side--which leads me to believe Kraftstoff is a spawn-reversed version.

So...was the original version also called Kraftstiff? And does anyone have it?
Or if the similarity is just coincidence, does anyone remember the map I speak of?
(It also had Allies' left flag in a green area with gates, kinda Flash-like, if that jogs any memories...)

I used to play that -all- the time on Mayberry DOD...Ah, memories. :)

Also, speaking of spawn-reversed--does anyone have Ramelle with the -original- spawn areas? I can't get used to spawning near German tanks... :]
(And consider Edith Piaf the reward for crossing the bridge. ^_^ Shame to be spoilt by having it at the start...)

Thanks!

I know the guy who made Kraftstoff, the original map was flag based, then its progressed to what it is today. I've seen pictures of older versions and they layout looks the same throughout it.

Don't know where to download it from though. And I'm sure it was kraftstoff all the way through

The original flag map that kraftstoff was based on was called dod_defeated if i remember correctly.

What was that old map called where Allied spawned on a short bridge and one of the flags was in an underpass sort of thing up ahead?

I honestly think that was my favorite map of all time.

Cherbourg?

Yes!

Actually, I would not mind remaking that for source eventually if I could be pushed to.

Originally posted by atamaca
Yes!

Actually, I would not mind remaking that for source eventually if I could be pushed to.

someone (watchtower?) already is working on it. there are some screenshots in the source project thread I believe.

Thanks, folks!
Defeated it is. :)

Yes, the Allies on bridge, with underpass (and indoor garden) is Cherbourg.

Since you've already done one miracle--anyone have the old Ramelle? http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif