Lets get the most talented modelers/skinners and vgui experts and get them to pleasu.. er, make us a pack for the russians :D

heres what i thinks

Mosin Nagent = Enfield
PPSH41 = Sten
Mosin Nagent Scoped = Enfield scoped
Light machine gun = Russian Degatrev

descriptions...


Russian Mosin-Nagant Model 1891 Rifle

Designed by the Belgian brothers Nagant and Russian Imperial Artillery Capt. Mosin, this bolt action rifle served troops of the Tsar and after the revolution the Red Army until 1945, being the first small calibre high velocity Russian rifle. Used 7.62 mm, 5 round integral box magazine, weighed 9.7 lbs; the above pictured weapon was brought back to the US by one of General Patton's troops during WW2, and has a 1924 stamp on it. This type of weapon, with a telescopic sight, was used by the famous WW2 Russian sniper, Vassili Zaitsev, who finally killed Germany's top sniper in the battle of Stalingrad. "Enemy at the Gates" is an exciting movie made about this incident

Russian PPSh Submachinegun

The PPSh was an extremely hardy weaon, fired 7.62 x 25mm rounds. Its round magazine contained 71 shells. Rate of fire was 900 rpm.This sub machinegun was issued to almost every Russian inafantryman in WW2, and was sought after for capture by Germans due to large magazine capacity.

Russian Degtyarev DP Light Machinegun

The DP, adopted by the Red Army in 1928 after two years of trials, was extremely simple yet robust, and remained Russia's standard light machinegun until the 1950 's, surviving today in Eastern Bloc countries and Asia. The distinctive flat pan magazine drum held 47 rounds of 7.62 x54mm, rate of fire 500-600rpm, weight 20 lbs


http://www.military-collections.com/Weapons/Mosin.jpg
http://www.military-collections.com/Weapons/Rusky.jpg
http://www.military-collections.com/Weapons/DP.jpg

for vgui i was thinking having a red grungish background with a hammer and sickle in the middle with a picture of a russian carrying the weapon of the selection

for russian player models i was thinking of having it like the people in enemy at the gates
http://www.classiccamera.org/fed%20history/enemy%20at%20gates%202.jpg

PLEASE think about this, it would make you loved by many many people

hm..... i like that idea. if only i was a talented modeler/skinner/animator... blast!

bump

look for Cheetos russian pack, it's not released yet, but it promises to be quite complete in it's conversion.

I want the Russians to make an appearance in DoD. However, an attempt to create Russians based on the British just doesn't work in my opinion. The weapons even after modelled are too different in characteristics. Would be an interesting project granted.

i have an old russian pack from 3.1 i could convert for you

Originally posted by Nikolaisqp
i have an old russian pack from 3.1 i could convert for you
Please do, I'd appreciate it, then I'd feel less guilty about not having anything to show and just sitting here waiting.

it would work fine Emu, lol, so the mosin would have ten rouns and not five, so what, the ppsh will have 30 and not 42, big deal, lol, the degatrev will have 40 instead of 42, lol

and yes please convert it nikolaisqp

I think it would be a great idea. I would be more than happy to help out with skinning. I am a Red Army reenactor in the 8th Guards, so I wouldn't mind putting some of my knowledge to use. Were you shooting for winter uniforms, or summer-issue uniforms?

Another thing to look for: www.russianfront.net <---- i've been waiting for this to come out real quick.

ZA RODINU! ZA STALINO!

Yeaaaaa!!! Awesome idea!!

I was waiting for this god knows how long...

PPL either convert it from 3.1 or make up new ones!! Please!!

Awaiting impatiently :)

Spacibo, zaranie.. ostanus na vs'u zhizn blagarodnim :)

Thanks

Oh, and btw Nikolaisqp love your earlier work...

So i hope you'll suprise us here! :)

ppsh will have 30 and not 42

71 rounds
http://www.korteng.com/KWjpg/ppsh41A.jpg
http://www.korteng.com/KWjpg/ppsh41B.jpg

and 35 rounds
http://www.continet.com/montyipsc/shpagin-41-2.gif

PPSh 41
Pistolet-Pulemyot Shpagina obr 1941G
Caliber: 7.62x25mm Soviet auto
Length: 33 in ( 838mm)
Weight (unloaded): 8 lb (3.64kg)
Barrel: 10.5 in (266mm), 4 groove, right-hand twist
Magazine: 35 round detachable box or 71 round drum
Ammunition: Type P1; 86 gr bullet, 8 gr charge (1.35in)
Type P-41; 74 gr bullet, 8 gr charge , AP/Incdy (1.36in)
Rate of Fire: 900rpm
Muzzle Velocity: 1500 fps P1; 1600 fps P-41

also this:
http://www.a-human-right.com/ppsh.html
http://www.continet.com/montyipsc/mpg.html - video

my bad

any update nikolai?

Steinbock .. I love that weapon.. what would equal the brits "grenadier" rifle .. (dont know its name sorry), in Russian weapons..?

and thanks for the website & movie, its awesome!!!!

Grenadier rifle.. the endfield? What did the Russians use?

Sten should be PPS-43, specs are more similar. Otherwise yeah.

And please, DO NOT use any hollywood movies for model reference. Use scale-model art (Dragon has great pics) or real photos.

Mosin Nagant

http://club.guns.ru/images/mosin/mosingun.jpg
the only russian non-automatic rifle in the WW2, but it was made for 5 rounds only, while lee-enfild has 10 rounds

http://world.guns.ru/rifle/mosin91.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/mosin91-10.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/mosin91-30.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/mosin91-38a.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/mosin91-44a.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/mosin91-30s.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/mosin91-30a.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/mosinbayo.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/mosin_ammo.jpg


http://www.weapon.nm.ru/mosin.mpg - video

Caliber: 7.62x54mm
Length: 1234 mm/1666
Weight: 3.8 kg/4.18 kg
Magazine: 5 rounds

http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/ - you can read here everything you need

Pic of Soviet recon squad.

PS: Stein, ugadaj kto ja? :)

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the most popular pistol among russian officers was TT-33
http://webideas.com/tokarev/images/tt33.jpg
http://webideas.com/tokarev/images/tt_33_468pix.gif
http://taka25th.cathand.com/tt33.2.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/tt33.jpg
Chambering: 7.62TT (7.63 mauser)
Type: Single action
Weight: 910 g
Length: 116 mm
capacity: 8 rounds.


The TT (Tokarev, Tula) was developed in 1930 in USSR by Tokarev, and adopted as a standart sidearm of the Red Army. TT was modified in 1933, and also known as TT-33. It was widely used by Soviet Army during WW2, and manufactured in many eastern block countries such as Jugoslavia, and in PR China and North Korea.
Technically, TT is locked-breech, recoil operated firearm. Locking principle is similar to one John Browning developed in M1911, but with some technology improvements. The gun used powerful 7.62x25mm ammunition. The trigger was single action, without any manual safeties but with half-**** position instead. The main unique feature of this gun was that all trigger group (trigger, mainspring, hammer, striker...) was assembled in single unit, easily removable in one piece when field-stripped. The main drawbacks of this gun were not so comfortable grips and half-**** stops, that could be broken fhen gun falls on the hard surface hammer down.

and SMG PPS-43, which was cheaper and and was better, than PPSH-41
http://www.sinopa.ee/sor/bo001/bo06pp/bo06pp11/pps07.jpg
http://diversant.h1.ru/guns/pispul/pic/pps43.jpg
http://diversant.h1.ru/guns/pispul/pic/pps432.jpg

Caliber: 7,62x25 mm TT
Weight: 3,67 kg loaded, 3,04 kg empty
Lenght (stock closed/open): 615 / 820 mm
Barrel lenght: 272 mm
Rate of fire: 700 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 35 rounds
Effective range: 200 meters


The PPS-43 (Pistolet-Pulemet Sudaeva, model of 1943 = Sudaev SMG) was born as an answer to the need in more compact and mobile weapon, than PPSch-41, then in use by Soviet Army. PPSch was too big and too heavy to be used by tank crews and mobile recon groups and paratroopers, so Army issued an request for new, more compact SMG. Sudaev initially designed new SMG in 1942, and it was adopted under the designation of PPS-42, and then refined the design in 1943, thus final model was marked as PPS-43. This SMG was manufactured in smaller than PPSch-41, quantities (ca. 500.000 manufactured at all) and sometimes is referred as a best SMG of World War 2. After WW2, it was widely exported to pro-Soviet regimes around the world and widely copied.

Technically, the PPS is a fully automatic weapon, based on simple blowback principle, and is fired from the open bolt. The gun is fired in full auto only. The safety is located in the triggerguard (somewhat like the M1 Garand). The receiver and barrel shroud is made from stamped steel. Rear sight is L-shaped flip type and is marked for 100 and 200 meters distance, front sight is fixed blade type. The barrel is equipped with simple muzzle brake. The folding stock is made from steel and folds under the receiver.

PPS uses PPSch-41-type box magazines. Drum type magazines cannot be used.

Beats me...

that's why i'm asking :)

Oba.. vot tebe na...

Vi cho rebyata.. Rysskie shto li? :)

Originally posted by Gasmasked Devil
Pic of Soviet recon squad.

PS: Stein, ugadaj kto ja? :)


I have those camo textures, if i could hook up with a modeller directly Brtis could be easily converted into Soviet recce/sappers/assualt engineers/airborne (basically all who wore the Ameoba pattern coveralls) because they wear coveralls as well and all that is needed to modify are the "extras". Some modelling modifications are required (Soviet style webbing, "pilotka" hats or Soviet helmets, Soviet style "sack" type of rucksacks). So high qauality skins are no problem, just need the approprite mods to the model. Default skin for German boots will fit Soviets quite nicely as well.


ps: A kto ty?

Originally posted by MeNKeH
Lets get the most talented modelers/skinners and vgui experts and get them to pleasu.. er, make us a pack for the russians :D

heres what i thinks

Mosin Nagent = Enfield
PPSH41 = Sten
Mosin Nagent Scoped = Enfield scoped
Light machine gun = Russian Degatrev

descriptions...


Russian Mosin-Nagant Model 1891 Rifle

Designed by the Belgian brothers Nagant and Russian Imperial Artillery Capt. Mosin, this bolt action rifle served troops of the Tsar and after the revolution the Red Army until 1945, being the first small calibre high velocity Russian rifle. Used 7.62 mm, 5 round integral box magazine, weighed 9.7 lbs; the above pictured weapon was brought back to the US by one of General Patton's troops during WW2, and has a 1924 stamp on it. This type of weapon, with a telescopic sight, was used by the famous WW2 Russian sniper, Vassili Zaitsev, who finally killed Germany's top sniper in the battle of Stalingrad. "Enemy at the Gates" is an exciting movie made about this incident

Russian PPSh Submachinegun

The PPSh was an extremely hardy weaon, fired 7.62 x 25mm rounds. Its round magazine contained 71 shells. Rate of fire was 900 rpm.This sub machinegun was issued to almost every Russian inafantryman in WW2, and was sought after for capture by Germans due to large magazine capacity.

Russian Degtyarev DP Light Machinegun

The DP, adopted by the Red Army in 1928 after two years of trials, was extremely simple yet robust, and remained Russia's standard light machinegun until the 1950 's, surviving today in Eastern Bloc countries and Asia. The distinctive flat pan magazine drum held 47 rounds of 7.62 x54mm, rate of fire 500-600rpm, weight 20 lbs


http://www.military-collections.com/Weapons/Mosin.jpg
http://www.military-collections.com/Weapons/Rusky.jpg
http://www.military-collections.com/Weapons/DP.jpg

for vgui i was thinking having a red grungish background with a hammer and sickle in the middle with a picture of a russian carrying the weapon of the selection

for russian player models i was thinking of having it like the people in enemy at the gates
http://www.classiccamera.org/fed%20history/enemy%20at%20gates%202.jpg

PLEASE think about this, it would make you loved by many many people
It'll be kind of a touchy subject with player models with weapon assignments:
*Conscript(Rifleman): A standard conscript
*Sergeant(SgtMaj): A helmetted Russian, or wearing one of those caps like the Ppsh shooting Russian in the Call of Duty E3 Trailer, and the guy holding the flag in the pic
*Sniper(Marksman): Like the Sergeant model, but more wearing tads of cloth and camoflague to blend in
*DP(Bren Gunner): A Sergeant or Conscript would do good here.

Any word from modelers/skinners if they want to do it or not?

hey, i'd like to help out. WWII on the East Front is my thing. I'm in the 8th Guards re-enacting unit. I read books on this stuff. I would love to help out on this project. Shoot me an e-mail: sovietarmy1941@yahoo.com

also, please visit: www.geocities.com/sovietarmy1941

Rifleman - conscrpipt in pilotka, maybe a trenchcoat
Sergeant - helmet, telogreika
Sniper - as shown on the pic I attached
MG - trenchcoat, ushanka (that winter hat, i really dont know the name in english)

bump

I wont let this thread die

Oba.. vot tebe na...
Vi cho rebyata.. Rysskie shto li?


a ti dumal!:) russkie vezde! :D da, zahodi na www.dayofdefeat.ru
tam mnogo dlja russkogo packa;)

http://www.dayofdefeat.ru/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14

vot ssqlka

im confused :x

Originally posted by Toejam Football
im confused :x

welcome to soviet union, tovarish!

If I was in the Soviet Union I would have to shoot myself !

MAXIM
http://www.muzeyuvd.narod.ru/pic/max_u.jpg
http://i.guns.ru/forums/icons/attachments/36_000015_000000_64460.gif
http://i.guns.ru/forums/icons/attachments/36_000015_000003_73052.jpg
http://ww2.ru/images_russian/weapon/maxim.jpg
http://ww2.ru/images_russian/weapon/dp_3.jpg
http://ww2.ee/army/ussr/armweap/maxim/maxim_02a
http://ww2.ee/army/ussr/armweap/maxim/maxim_02b.jpg
http://ww2.ee/army/ussr/armweap/maxim/maxim_02c.jpg


The first Maxims, in service with the Russian Army, were originally manufactured in England and Germany. The weapon had

number of bronze parts, including the water jacket, and used a mount with large wheels like a cannon. The MG was given the

model designation 1905.

After the war against Japan, the Russian Army started to improve m/1905. The final model was m/1910. The weight of the weapon

was nearly 10 kg less than the m/1905, because almost all bronze parts were changed into steel parts. Also a tractor type

water outry port was added. At the same time colonel Sokolov developed a low and small wheeled mount for the MG.

When the Finnish Defense Forces were founded, over 400 m/1910 left by the Russians were taken into service and in 1920s

several hundred more were acquired. These were fitted with the Sokolov mount. The importance of the m/1910 MG in the Finnish

Army grew considerably in World War II due to the large number of weapons captured. Over 1 000 were captured during the

Winter War alone.

Caliber: 7.62 mm x 53 R
System of operation: Recoil, automatic only
Length overall: 1 107 mm ( 43.6 in )
Barrel length: 723 mm ( 28.4 in )
Weight: 23.8 kg ( 52.47 lbs. )
Mount weight: Sokolov 36 kg ( 79.36 lbs. ) m/31 universal mount 40 kg ( 88.18 lbs. )
Feed device: 250-round fabric belt
Sights: Front: Blade
Rear: Leaf
Cyclic rate: 520-580 r.p.m.
Muzzle velocity: 860 m/s ( 2 822 f.p.s.)
Cooling: Water

DP
http://www.muzeyuvd.narod.ru/pic/dectyarev_p1.jpg
http://ww2.ru/images_russian/weapon/dp_6.jpg
http://ww2.ru/images_russian/weapon/dp_1.jpg
http://ww2.ru/images_russian/weapon/dp_2.jpg
http://ww2.ru/images_russian/weapon/dp_4.jpg
http://ww2.ru/images_russian/weapon/dp_5.jpg
http://ww2.ru/images_russian/weapon/dp_7.jpg
http://ww2.ru/images_russian/weapon/dp_8.jpg
http://ww2.ru/images_russian/weapon/dp_11.jpg
http://ww2.ee/army/ussr/armweap/dp/dp_02b.jpg
http://ww2.ee/army/ussr/armweap/dp/dp_02a.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/machine/dp.jpg - DP
http://world.guns.ru/machine/dpm.jpg - DPM


DP, DPM
Caliber: 7.62x54mm R
Weigth: 8.4 kg w/o magazine; 11.3 kw with loaded magazine
Length: 1266 mm
Length of barrel: ?
Feeding: pan magazine, 47 rounds
Rate of fire: 600 rounds/minute

The DP (Degtyarev Pechotnyi, or Degtyarev Infantry) light machine gun was one of the first small arms designed after the 1917 in USSR. It was adopted as an standard LMG of Red Army in 1927 and served with distinction until the end of World War 2. It was rugged and reliable weapon, but not withouth certain flaws, so, based on experience gained from battles of WW2, it was slightly modernised in 1943-44 to became DPM. or DP Modernised. One of proposed modifications was replacement of the heavy and uncomfortable flat pan magazine by the belt feed, but due to some resons, this particular improvement was released only in 1946, when a further improved version was adopted by Soviet Army as a RP-46 (Rotnyj Pulemet, 1946, or Company Machine Gun). RP-46 filled the gap between the light squad automatic weapons like RPD and a heavy machine guns like SGM. RP-46 was used as a front line weapon until 1960s, when it was gradually replaced by the first Soviet universal machine gun - Kalashnikov PK. All those guns (DP, DPM and RP-46) were widely exported to the Soviet-friendly countries and regimes. RP-46 also was manufactured in other countries, most notably by China, as a Type 58 machine gun.

It also should be noted that a variations of the DP and DPM were also used as a tank and aircraft guns, named DT (DTM) and DA, respectively. Those guns featured flat pan magazines of smaller diameter but larger in height, heavier barrels and different stocks and mountings, but internally were quite similar to its infantry "brothers".

DP is a gas operated, magazine fed light machine gun. It utilises a long stroke gas piston, located under the barrel, which operates a bolt with two side-mounted locking flaps. When bolt comes into the battery, the stud, mounted on the bolt carrier, pusded the firing pin forward. A thick part of the firing pin thus swings the rear parts of the locking flaps out of bolt and into the locking recesses in the receiver walls. When shot is fired, a bolt carrier on its way back retracts the flaps out of receiver walls into the bolt and then opens the bolt. DP fires from the open bolt. Barrel is quickly detachable and can be replaced during the prolonged firing sessions. Recoil spring was located under the barrel, around the gas piston, and this was one of the few design drawbacks of the DP, since the spring was tended to loose its temper due to overheating. Another drawback was the magazine. Due to ammunition used, which was rimmed and less than suitable for automatic weapons, Degtyarev had to use a flat pan magazine, which could feed those cartridges reliably, but was too heavy itself, uncomfortable to carry and prone to damage. It is still an open quetsion why Degtyarev did not adopted an overhead box magazine, much like one found on british Bren (which also used an old, rimmed ammo).

Based on experience gained during the first part of WW2, DP was modenised to the DPM configuration. The key improvement was that recoiul spring was relocated to the rear part of the bolt, and a receiver extension was added behind the receiver to contain the spring. This mandated a redesigned stock with pistol grip instead of previous semi-pistol stock. Some other improvements were also made, most notably the more sturdy bipods and a manual safety, and DPM was carried by the Soviet troops through the rest of the WW2.

If I was in the Soviet Union I would have to shoot myself !

you can shoot yourself right now!!! :D

Originally posted by Steinbock
you can shoot yourself right now!!! :D

It's probably easiest if you are in the US.

Just pop down to Kmart and buy yourself an uzi or something. :rolleyes:

Steinbock, those are, without a doubt, the BEST pictures of the DP I've ever seen on the net. I searched everywhere and couldin't find any that were big or clear, those are excellent for modelling, they'll definately help me with my model. Where did you find those, anyways?

Originally posted by Steinbock
you can shoot yourself right now!!! :D

Nah, I guess its German blood in me, but i just dont like Russians/Soviets sorry.

Originally posted by Cheeto
Steinbock, those are, without a doubt, the BEST pictures of the DP I've ever seen on the net. I searched everywhere and couldin't find any that were big or clear, those are excellent for modelling, they'll definately help me with my model. Where did you find those, anyways?

www.ww2.ee - Estonian WW2 portal, in Russian. Has some really good ref pics.

www.ww2.ee - Estonian WW2 portal, in Russian. Has some really good ref pics.

not only there, i spend about an hour of searching for those pictures and information through the internet
I just love russian weapon, becuse it`s the best, and it was easy for me to find that.

Steinbock, those are, without a doubt, the BEST pictures of the DP I've ever seen on the net. I searched everywhere and couldin't find any that were big or clear, those are excellent for modelling, they'll definately help me with my model. Where did you find those, anyways?

if you need something, you can always send me e-mail, or find me on ICQ, and i`ll try to help you.

Nah, I guess its German blood in me, but i just dont like Russians/Soviets sorry.

why don`t you like russians??? do you know any russian?? I think you are watching too much Hollywood films, try to find and read something historical about Russia, and, i hope, you`ll understand, that russians aren`t bad at all, and they are very interesting nation!

SVT-38
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/svt38r.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/svt38rc.jpg

SVT-40
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/svt40r.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/svt40l.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/svt40rc.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/svt40sn.jpg
http://www.surplusfirearms.com/svt40.JPG
http://www.korteng.com/KWjpg/toksemi.jpg

Caliber: 7.62x54 mm R
Action: Gas operated, tilting bolt
Overall length: 1226 mm
Barrel length: 625 mm
Weight: 3.85 kg
Feeding: 10 rounds in detachable box magazine

The SVT-38 (Samozaryadnaya Vintovka Tokareva - Tokarev Self-loading rifle) was originally adopted in the 1938 after more than

20 years of the research and development, done by famous Russian arms designer Fedor Tokarev. It was not a first Soviet

semi-automatic rifle - there were the select-fire 'Avtomat' of 1916 by Fedorov and also select-fire AVS-36 of 1936 by

Simonov. 'Avtomat' was chambered for Japanese 6.5mm Arisaka round and was declared obsolete, and the AVS-36 showed some

design deficiencies, so new rifle was adopted. After initial trials, it was updated and re-adopted in 1940 as a SVT-40. This

rifle was made in relatively large numbers (more than 1 million made prior to 1945), and was originally issued as a standard

infantry rifle, replacing the obsolete Mosin-Nagant M1891/30 bolt action rifles. Few SVT-40 were also manufactured in the

sniper variant, equipped with scope mounts and telescopic sights, but accuracy was not sufficient, so only about 50 000

sniper SVT-40 were manufactured, and these were supplemented by the Mosin-Nagant sniper rifles. The SVT-40 had a somewhat

controversial reputation. It was highly regarded by the enemies (Finns and Germans) and it was a very sought-after war

trophy, re-issued to both German and Finnish troops. On the other hand, it was often considered unreliable and

over-complicated by the Soviet troops (when comparing with old Mosin-Nagant rifles), but it was more to the poor training and

maintenance, than to the rifle itself. Some better trained and educated Soviet troops, such as Sea Infantry (Marines, which

always were some kind of elite in the Soviet army) used the SVT-40 with great deal of success. After the end of the World War

2, most SVT-40 were quickly withdrawn from service and put into reserve stocks. Some rifles were later sold on domestic

civilian market for hunters as a military surplus. Other than basic versions, there also were developed a shorter carbine

SKT-40, and a select-fire AVT-40, but both seen very little service. Overall, the SVT-40 was in general no worse than

American M1 Garand (and have some advantages over it, especially in the reloading procedures), and obviously better than

earlier German Gew.41 semi-automatic rifles. It was the matter of training and education, and quality of the service of in

the Soviet troops, that lead to the low popularity (in general) of this basically good rifle.

SVT-40 is a gas operated, magazine fed self-loading rifle. It uses a short piston stroke gas action, located above the

barrel. The interesting feature of the SVT is that the gas block, along with front sight base and a muzzle brake, were

produced as a single barrel extension unit. This greatly simplified the manufacture of the barrel, but the barrel extension

itself unit was quite complicated to make. Gas chamber has 5 positions gas regulator to ajust the system for any conditions.

The gas piston has its own return string and moved back for about 36 mm (1.5 inch) when gun was fired. It gave a quick and

powerful stroke to the bolt carrier, which carried the bolt under it. Barrel locking was achieved by the rear part of the

bolt, that tilted down to lock into the reinforced steel insert in the floor of the receiver. Charging handle was permanently

attached to the right side of the bolt carrier. Detachable box magazine was made from sheet steel and hold 10 cartridges. SVT

could be reloaded either by replacing the magazine or by using 5-round stripper clips of the Mosin-Nagant. Stripper clip

guides were machined into the receiver top cover. Bolt system incorporated a bolt catch, that held the bolt group back when

magazine was empty, to facilitate faster reloading, especially when using stripper clips.

Both SVT-38 and SVT-40 were hammer-fired, with safety switch located behind the trigger. When engaged, safety locked the

trigger. On the rare AVT-40 select-fire rifles, safety had an additional setting for full-auto fire mode.

The SVT-38 featured a two-piece wooden stock with separate upper handguard with small steel insert at the forward end. SVT-40

had an one-piece wooden stock with shorter forend and separate upper handguard. Front part of the stock was replaced by the

sheet steel cover with cooling ports. Cleaning rod, originally stored in the groove at the right side of the stock at the

SVT-38, was relocated under the barrel on the SVT-40.

Sights of the SVT consisted of the post type front sight, mounted on the sight base with circular front sight guard, and a

tangent type open rear sights, mounted on the rear part of the barrel. Sniper versions were equipped with special detachable,

see-through scope mounts at the rear of the receiver, so the scope was offset to the rear, allowing to use a clip-charging

facility.

SVT-38 was equipped with detachable, knife-bayonet. SVT-40 was issued with similar bayonet, but with blade shortened to save

weight. Unlike the Mosin-Nagant, the bayonets were routinely carried in sheaths, and attached to the rifle only when

required.

I found very interesting site, there is a lot of SVT-40/SVT-38 pics:http://www.moneypit.net/~bhinton/Russian_SVT/

there is one "Russian Pack", russians-americans:
http://dod.daddeln.de/images/screens/screen_152.jpg


unfortunetely the link on it doesen`t work:(

Originally posted by Steinbock
there is one "Russian Pack", russians-americans:
http://dod.daddeln.de/images/screens/screen_152.jpg


unfortunetely the link on it doesen`t work:(

Yeah that one was released awhile back, I have it on my hard drive if anyone wants to get ahold of it to convert it. Isn't too bad, actually.

Actually that pack was horrible... there are clowns instead of russians :\

bump

bumpedeedoo

dont die D:

I got a good Mosin Nagant model. It needs to be tweaked a bit to look like a Russian m/91-30 though. It's skinned already (by Augustus) and I even compiled it for HL, but the kar98 animations don't suit it because when reloading/working the bolt he grabs air and not the bolt (a Mosin Nagant bolt is straight, not curved like the Mauser 98k bolt).

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~vuonnala/riston/m28-30_ingame1.jpg

If anyone is willing to reanimate (Cheeto ?), please e-mail me (address in sig). The PM system sux because it doesn't pop up a box and I never notice the new messages.

I also got a skinned DP model that needs animating. Cheeto's got a model and anims but I don't think the model is skinned and the cocking handle is in the wrong place.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~vuonnala/riston/emma_pic1.jpg

Don't mind the wood, it can't be seen ingame. I'm willing to donate these to a Russian pack if I can use the animations in Finnpack :^)

cheeto pls animate these i would love you for it

a woman sniper model would be really cool addition to a new soviet pack.

I got a good Mosin Nagant model. It needs to be tweaked a bit to look like a Russian m/91-30 though. It's skinned already (by Augustus) and I even compiled it for HL, but the kar98 animations don't suit it because when reloading/working the bolt he grabs air and not the bolt (a Mosin Nagant bolt is straight, not curved like the Mauser 98k bolt).


it`s great, but, as i think, your model doesen`t look like REAL Mosin, but your DP is very good!

a woman sniper model would be really cool addition to a new soviet pack.

yeah! cool, but would you play for woman???

http://www.rkka.msk.ru/fot-ot/alraz11.jpg
http://www.rkka.msk.ru/pic/b5.jpg
http://www.rkka.msk.ru/pic/016.jpg
http://www.rkka.msk.ru/pic/sb19.jpg

ripa, awesome job on both models... someone please animate em... cheeto? glimmy?

http://www.geocities.com/tpatcher_2/Images/pilotka.jpg - so called PILOTKA
http://www.geocities.com/tpatcher_2/Images/M35Gym.jpg - gymnasterka
http://www.geocities.com/tpatcher_2/Images/Shinel.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/tpatcher_2/Images/Shineltabs.jpg - Shinel for cold seasons
http://www.geocities.com/tpatcher_2/Images/RGD33F.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/tpatcher_2/Images/RGD33R.jpg - grenade

I just remembered that Klown is animating the DP for me at the moment. The DP skin is by decS, he's a cool guy :o Also, I got a Maxim model, but it's being skinned by Eric at the moment. I need anims for that too :f

The Mosin Nagant I made is a Finnish one. I had to stretch it and stuff to fit the kar98 anims, that's why it may look weird.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/raimo.vuonnala/m39_pic4.jpg
To make that a Russian one, the front stock needs to be tweaked. Both the front and the rear sights have to be changed also. The back stock shouldn't have a semi-pistol grip. Also, the bayonet needs to be changed. I did all that already but the model is currently in use by Red Orchestra mod and I can't share it :^).

Anyway, if anyone cares to animate the Mosin Nagant, here's a link to the model.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~vuonnala/riston/m28-30_model.zip
It's meshed. In case u want some textures for it, the textures from this m/39 will work on the model:
www.kolumbus.fi/raimo.vuonnala/m39.zip

Laterz :F

BUMP :)

Originally posted by ripa
I just remembered that Klown is animating the DP for me at the moment. The DP skin is by decS, he's a cool guy :o Also, I got a Maxim model, but it's being skinned by Eric at the moment. I need anims for that too :f

You realise that we've made how many of the same weapons? I'm making my own Maxim, when it's done I intend to animate it too, do you want to use mine? BTW, I also found some new pics of the DP-28 that show a lot of the detail on the reciever that we were missing. It's got some awesome detail shots and shows that actually, we were both wrong on how it looked (though you were closer). I'm updating my DP with those pics now, want em to check em against yours?

BTW, did I ever ask you how I could get ahold of decS?

Hey, if you can find some good modellers/skinners, i'll make some russian sprites. You know, like player selection, flags, objectives, etc..

i do reskins, if anyone needs sprites lemme know

HEY MAN!!! I ALREADY ****ING VOLUNTEERED FOR THE SPRITE JOB!!! Sorry.... I have a bad attitude when im wasted. I apologize.

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People dont let this thread die.. Please!!!

Die!, Die!, Die!!

*Evil Laugh*
Mwuhahahaha.. *Cough, splutter* eh..hem..

Any news on this?

Any1 wants to release a weapon skin? :)

Thx

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Really Really dont want this to die :)

Why don't just wait for RF (Russian Front mod) to be released.

Poka:D

LOL..

dude I dont want to wait until i'm 90 :)

Ya xochy igrat poka ya zhivoi.. :OP~

Ja toshe, no chdat itak itak predetcya:mad:

skoree vqpustjat DoD 1.1 ili chto-to podobnoe s russkimi

Kruto. :)

tut splashnyie russkie.

A ti 4to dymal , rycckie Be3de !!!!!!:D :D

A cho vi dymali...

RUSSIANS UNITE.. lol..

VSEX POSILAITE.. NA .. lol..

:)

Any news on Russian Pack ? Some one wroking on it ?

o wow sieg heil Stalin.

Ummmm...dont use the 41 for the bren thats totaly unrealistic, there was another smg that the russians had that I think was used in lenin grade since it was the only thing that the metal stamping factory could produce.......and come to find out the gun was considered to be thing that saved the town.

Uhh, I think pretty much anyone doing this, including me, used or is using the DP-28. And you're thinking of the PPS-43.