I cant belive no one has made a thread yet. well im the 1st :p

anyone tryed it? its pretty much the same as normal hammer, but with cool extras, and nice props, look as my leet css mapzors!! :cool:

cool...a "first map" thread^^
new hammer ownz, except the scrolling through textures is sometimes a bit too much for my comp ;D

i'll add pix asap :)

yeah everyone knows its released, we are all just moaning and groaning its only available to those who have pre-ordered HL2.
(lame)

anywho have fun and lets see some sweet maps

Originally posted by Watchtower
yeah everyone knows its released, we are all just moaning and groaning its only available to those who have pre-ordered HL2.
(lame)

My sentiments exactly. :mad:

My sentiments exactly.

meh, heres the first map i made, featuring a barrel, glass, water, melon, and some hostages :)

heres a screeny. looks like someone spiked the punch at the hostage party.

anyway, heres a pic showing u guys the scale of source.

OMG Teh bigzors!!

That is really neat. Hopefully some of you mappers can get an early start!! Keep up the good mapping.

Jix

i made a thread but i deleted it when i saw the one in the general discussion forum :P

Originally posted by Watchtower
its only available to those who have pre-ordered HL2.
(lame)


sooo... pre-order it then... :confused:

Anyway.. It's not the full SDK... It's only a taste, and mostly geared for mappers... There is a Source HLmodel viewer (for the modelers out there), but it's pretty crippled at this point and doesn't offer any decompiling/compiling options yet... The full SDK will get released shortly after HL2, and have everything your little hearts desire...


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ive downloaded and started a few things in XSI 4 HL2 but its pretty complex to learn, theres a lot of power there, love to see what good modellers can do with it :>

Originally posted by Effexx
sooo... pre-order it then... :confused:



Some of us are waiting to see what other crap valve offers such as just dod:s alone, we dont all want to order a bunch of crap we wont be playing.

It will still take 3 bsps to cover Omaha beach battle area.

well, with silver you basically get:
- hl²
- cs:s which is meant to be the mp part of hl²
- dod:s, that's what we are waiting for
- the sdk and softimage:xsp for free plus lot's of tutorials (i enjoy these, they're more interesting than others), one more reason to purchase it now
- hl:s which is a nice addition, sure worth the money
- cs:cz , ok that's one we don't really need
- other mods and hl , what we already have

i don't need the uber expensive fan stuff and i already have most of the things related to hl but i like the other stuff and via steam that's all for the price of boxed hl² WITHOUT any other things, at least here.

anyway, without hl² you won't have fun with the sdk and if you want to get experienced with the tools provided ou can pay for hl² now instead of waiting another week and paying the same price :-P.

if you only wan't dod:s i can't help you, you must be crazy then ;).

sooo... pre-order it then...

I am a needy student. I have no money, only depths.
Yet, I want to be playing with the new SDK.

Originally posted by WinstonChurchil
well, with silver you basically get:
- hl²
- cs:s which is meant to be the mp part of hl²
- dod:s, that's what we are waiting for
- the sdk and softimage:xsp for free plus lot's of tutorials (i enjoy these, they're more interesting than others), one more reason to purchase it now
- hl:s which is a nice addition, sure worth the money
- cs:cz , ok that's one we don't really need
- other mods and hl , what we already have

ummm you dont get Softimage XSI for free, you get a 30 day trial version - the programme itself retails for the better part of $500USD

Originally posted by RaNd0M
ummm you dont get Softimage XSI for free, you get a 30 day trial version - the programme itself retails for the better part of $500USD


I thought they gave you a free version of XSI EXP for HL2 ??? At least that's what I installed from their provided link... It never said anything to me about a limited time trial... <shrug>


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Softimage XSI for HL2 is freely available for almost a year.

do you mean it is available for one year? or it has been available for one year now?

anyway, i haven't read anything about a 30 trial license..
the xsi exp version has some limitations compared to the full version but no time limit.

Unlike other free game modification utilities, the XSI EXP for Half-Life 2 gives full access to all the professional features available in SOFTIMAGE|XSI. Everything you need to create Half-Life 2 characters, models, and environment elements is here. You can design characters, mix and blend animations, render interactively or use real-time shaders, and then export your models to Half-Life 2.

taken from the softimage site, looks like it is free then i must have been reading the wrong thing because XSI itself is $500 with a 30 day trial, my bad

Limitations:

All features and functionality of the commercial version of SOFTIMAGE|XSI are enabled without the hassle of licensing.

XSI data from all sources can be brought into the XSI EXP for Half-Life 2, including data from the commercial version of SOFTIMAGE|XSI.

Data output from the XSI EXP will be limited to the following:

Scene files can be saved to a special .exp file format so they can be loaded into the SOFTIMAGE|XSI EXP. XSI EXP (.exp) files will not load in the commercial version of SOFTIMAGE|XSI.

Rendered pictures will be allowed but will be watermarked and limited to a size no greater than 510px x 510px.

Rendering is limited to a single CPU.

Models with 2000 triangles or less and Envelopes (skinned models) with 4000 triangles or less can exported to Valve's .SMD file format.

All pre-packaged functionality of the product written as plugins (scripts etc.) will function as normal unless explicitly removed. (see SDK section below for more information).

Originally posted by Cole
Some of us are waiting to see what other crap valve offers such as just dod:s alone, we dont all want to order a bunch of crap we wont be playing.

why dont u order bronze (HL2 + CSS) and then order silver when dods comes out, thats what im doing.

Originally posted by RaNd0M
taken from the softimage site, looks like it is free then i must have been reading the wrong thing because XSI itself is $500 with a 30 day trial, my bad

Limitations:

I haven't looked into any of this, but possibly it's an XSI with only HL2 functionality and thus can be offered for free (i.e. subsidized by VALVe)?

I have it pre-ordered...but I have it pre-ordered at my local EB Games...not through steam. Maybe if I scan my receipt and email it to the steam people....

Originally posted by Jix
That is really neat. Hopefully some of you mappers can get an early start!! Keep up the good mapping.

Jix


i've been making some stuff for dod:s in CoDRadiant for a while, i've got 2 houses, a watermill, 3 underground bunkers and a couple of other things including a church and some very large and fancy park gates.
i just hope dod:s uses the same scale as dod does, one unit in hammer to one inch. as they've ported maps over, and there's that screen of anzio in hammer, i'm assuming the scale is the same, and the buildings i've imported into dod so far are the perfect size.
if anyone's interested, here' 2 screenshots taken in CoD of 2 of the buildings, both based on real houses i took photos of in St Aubin in normandy

http://img65.exs.cx/img65/2550/Sourcemap2.jpg
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/3839/Sourcemap005.jpg


now i just need the new hammer and i could get them in CS:S

Originally posted by Gorbachev
I haven't looked into any of this, but possibly it's an XSI with only HL2 functionality and thus can be offered for free (i.e. subsidized by VALVe)?

it does look that way, its obvious to me valve has struck up some kind of deal with softimage or there would be no way in hell you would be getting XSI for free. Ive been playing around with it a bit it does look like you can only use it for HL2.

@ "A Member" im not entiresly sure if it can be used for HL2, i would seriously love to have the bushes from cod /drool

i've got just the buildings saved as .maps and imported into hammer, which i've then saved as HL1 .maps in a folder somewhere. i wouldn't be importing anything else, just the brushes that the buildings are made from, no models, patches, terrain etc.

Originally posted by TheNomad
why dont u order bronze (HL2 + CSS) and then order silver when dods comes out, thats what im doing.

again, you would still be ordering a bunch of crap we wont be playing.

Originally posted by Billie|Joe
again, you would still be ordering a bunch of crap we wont be playing.

HL2 is a bunch of crap?

i dont get you, the bronze is just HL2 + CSS, its the cheapest version. if u wont order that then what?

i think he means the things you get with the silver package, 'valve's entire back catalogue', stuff like TFC and ricochet, the games no one cares about and wouldn't be playing.

Originally posted by A Member
i think he means the things you get with the silver package, 'valve's entire back catalogue', stuff like TFC and ricochet, the games no one cares about and wouldn't be playing.

yea, thats why i said earlyer in the thread that he should order bronze 1st, and then order silver if he wants dods (when it comes out)

*cough* I've just written a little utility that converts HL1 format SMD files to Source format so if you dont want to go down the XSI route you can still use Milkshape3D for basic prop modelling.

I've already manage to convert a DoD player model to CS:S with the current SDK release and that wasn't too hard. As prop models are a little simpler and dont use vertex weighting it should be a doddle to make them in Milkshape3D.

but, as he said, you'd still be buying TFC, Opposing Force etc with the silver package, stuff you wouldn't be playing.

rightyyo, i also only have 1 gb of free memory left :X

Memory? You mean storage space I'm thinking... Anyway, I'm all for the the oldschool..but I preordered the Collector's edition, mostly because I want the DVD version of the game. I like having something to physically showcase in my room.

Originally posted by Gorbachev
but I preordered the Collector's edition, mostly because I want the DVD version of the game. I like having something to physically showcase in my room.

I'm assuming that you ordered it through a local retail store then because at the STEAM site I saw that they specifically stated that you will NOT get a CD/DVD with a Steam pre-order...


oh and check out this thread... Walmart already has HL2 on the shelves?

http://www.hlfallout.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17165

Ok.. I was reading around, and it sounds like HL2 doesn't have a "hard" street date so some retailers are selling it already... Sounds like you don't get anything special in it... no CD case (just paper sleeves)... no manual... and the game isn't even playable until the 16th... so pretty much all you can do is install it, and wait like everyone else...

Check out this thread at the Steam Forums as well...


http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=173844

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well, its good for 56k users i guees :/

http://www.softimage.com/community/EXP/HL2/

Are there any plans on a public release for those who don't have a Source game yet?

A Member, those screenshots look fantastic.