[REF] M1 Garand Pics


Zao
10-20-2004, 09:41 AM
Ok, my camera is the very definition of "teh suck," so bear with me. I pretty much have to take any picture outside, and I live in an apartment and posing a battle rifle on the steps by the parking lot makes the other tenants very nervous to say the least. The color is usually off, and the flash bleaches everything out badly, so I'll note pictures that are particularly good and true to color. I'll take requests, and will do everything I can to get to you pro modellers and skinners everything you could want for reference pics of the M1 rifle.

SOME OF THESE PICS ARE HUGE. 56KER'S HAVE BEEN WARNED.

If my pic hosting goes down (and it will, eventually) then visit
my photo album that I can't direct link pics from. (http://www.mos-squad.com/forums/album_personal.php?user_id=94)
I'm not sure if you have to register to see the albums or not. Until that time arrives, I'll upload them to a fileserver for fast linking.

Ok, here goes:
These pics are from before I started refinishing the stock, which was was finished with several coats of polyurethane (this is a major no-no). So the wood is shiny, and should not be.
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/20040303_001.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/20040303_002.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/20040303_003.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/20040303_004.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/20040303_012.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/20040303_013.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/20040303_014.jpg

These pics are from when I had sanded all the stock parts down to bare wood. The color on these pics is just about perfectly true, except obvious the wood is darker now that I've stained it and sealed it.
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/m1_sanded005.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/m1_sanded006.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/m1_sanded007.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/m1_sanded008.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/m1_sanded014.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/m1_sanded015.jpg

Things to note: My rifle has insane pitting on it, year's and year's worth. You wouldn't want to skin that onto a model that is trying to look like a new-issue weapon. It also has mis-matched hanguards. The rear handguard is beech, I think, which was not used during WW2. I'll be damned if the front handguard is walnut, but it looks ok. The buttstock is walnut, and has a nice grain to it with plenty of stuff for skinners to work with.

These pics are from this morning, and are poor quality. Shown with the rifle are a loaded and empty clip for reference. If/when modelling/skinning from these pics, remember to account for flash and.... ugly carpeting. By now, the wood has been sanded, and has had about 4 coats of boiled linseed oil, which was used to finish and seal stocks during the war, along with tung oil. So in other words, it's getting there, but is not completely finished. The only stock part on this rifle that's close to GI issue appearance is the buttstock. The hanguards are post-war.
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/garand_pics_1_004.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/garand_pics_1_006.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/garand_pics_1_007.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/garand_pics_1_010.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/garand_pics_1_019.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/garand_pics_2_001.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/garand_pics_2_003.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/garand_pics_2_004.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/garand_pics_2_005.jpg

Do not, I repeat DO NOT use the color of the metal in these pics as a reference to what wartime USGI parkerizing looks like. Mine's been reparkerized at least once post-war, and I plan to have it reparkerized this winter and bring it back to USGI WW2 issue appearance. To see what a real, as-issued condition, war-time rifle looks like, smaller and better detailed pics can be found here:
http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/nomenclature.html.
There's also a wealth of information there for anyone just wanting to know about Garands, and also how to buy them directly from the government for peanuts.

There. 22 pics to start you guys off. I'll try my best to fulfill any requests, and will answer any questions you might have to the best of my knowledge. Have at it ;)

-Edit- The ammo loaded in the clips is USGI M2 Ball, which is what was used during the war. Feel free to use that as an exact historical ref. I will also keep adding to these pics as I come across stuff.

New addition:
Two clips attatched to the sling.
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/sling_clip_pics007.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/sling_clip_pics008.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/sling_clip_pics009.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/sling_clip_pics010.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/sling_clip_pics011.jpg
http://www.freeupload.net/users/uploads/sling_clip_pics012.jpg

I'm going to start adding good websites with good pics.
http://www.garandguy.com/ --- Lots of wartime finish pics. Reciever heels, mostly.

Darkstorn
10-20-2004, 09:45 AM
Awesome!!! :D

I'll start working on it right away.

[H2H]MetalHeart
10-20-2004, 10:49 AM
[SEC]MetalHeart:
I want this gun :P

Darkstorn : Go for it !!! :D
Ohhh, can u make it with a clip attached to sling ? I've seen it in one of BoB episodes, and I've got garand model with it. :)
Just an idea :) I can give link if u are interested :)

Zao
10-20-2004, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by [H2H]MetalHeart
[SEC]MetalHeart:
I want this gun :P

Darkstorn : Go for it !!! :D
Ohhh, can u make it with a clip attached to sling ? I've seen it in one of BoB episodes, and I've got garand model with it. :)
Just an idea :) I can give link if u are interested :)

Hell, I'll post some pics of mine like that ;)

<3 David =)
10-20-2004, 11:07 AM
That is seriously hot.

Zao
10-20-2004, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Zao
Hell, I'll post some pics of mine like that ;)

Done, links posted in first post.

Sproily
10-20-2004, 11:26 AM
Neat! I want another cool garand :)

{tBs}IamDoydy
10-20-2004, 12:09 PM
theres are some great ref pics. i could of used them on my now about 95% complete garand model... still can.

nice garand btw :P i want one

Zao
10-20-2004, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by {tBs}IamDoydy
theres are some great ref pics. i could of used them on my now about 95% complete garand model... still can.
I hope they're useful to you. If you want to see anything more detailed, or from a specific angle, let me know.

Originally posted by {tBs}IamDoydy
nice garand btw :P i want one
Thanks. Check out the sales program at www.odcmp.com. $300 for a guaranteed USGI M1? I'll have some of that, please.

Engineer
10-20-2004, 12:50 PM
I believe they only ship to pepole that live in the U.S..

Zao
10-20-2004, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by engineer
I believe they only ship to pepole that live in the U.S..

Yup, U.S. citizens, no criminal record, 18+ years old, etc.

{tBs}IamDoydy
10-20-2004, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Zao
U.S. citizens, no criminal record, 18+ years old, etc

lol well that counts me out , all fo them :P

nah im kidding, i have no criminal record

[H2H]MetalHeart
10-20-2004, 04:26 PM
[SEC]MetalHeart:
Hell, I'll post some pics of mine like that
Ohh yes! That's what i was talking about !
Great! One or 2 clips are enough for my feeling ;)
Thou, can someone make model detailed enough and with these clips attached ?!
And now time for magic word : PLEASE ! :)

John Wolf
10-20-2004, 04:41 PM
Awesome pics, i wish i could model :(

darkflame
10-20-2004, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Darkstorn
Awesome!!! :D

I'll start working on it right away.

So that means the fin pack is on hold:confused:

Darkstorn
10-20-2004, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by darkflame
So that means the fin pack is on hold:confused:

It's on hold anyway unless i can find someone to model for me.

Brenden Azevedo
10-20-2004, 10:34 PM
My reference pics > yours.

mauahahaha

http://www.gamingforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8997

http://www.gamingforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8996

http://www.gamingforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8995

http://www.gamingforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8994

http://www.gamingforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8993

Splinter
10-20-2004, 10:42 PM
My reference pics > yours.

*Annoying MSA mascot voice* I'd have to agree, i like the wood on Brenden's garand better than yours

As seen here:
http://img93.exs.cx/img93/9144/IMG_0634.jpg

It's cleaner/smoother/extremely pleasureable when touched.
Overall your Garand is too flat and boring.

I give it a 5/10

And btw, your fingernails are an inch short, You get marked down 2 points for that.

:rolleyes: :p

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Cool reference pics Zao, might use them the next time i skin the garand.

BrewHaHa
10-20-2004, 10:50 PM
I like Breden's Wood :P U know i love you, come on brenden, leasve a message, ill hit u back, yo yo.

Splinter
10-20-2004, 10:52 PM
uh.....*blocks brenden on AIM*

Brenden Azevedo
10-20-2004, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by BrewHaHa
I like Breden's Wood :P U know i love you, come on brenden, leasve a message, ill hit u back, yo yo.

You know, when I first attempted to reply to this, I was going to try and be "down with it yo", ya know? To try and 'represent' and whatnot. But before I pressed the Submit Reply button, I realized that both you and I, are white.

BrewHaHa
10-20-2004, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Brenden Azevedo
You know, when I first attempted to reply to this, I was going to try and be "down with it yo", ya know? To try and 'represent' and whatnot. But before I pressed the Submit Reply button, I realized that both you and I, are white.


I have it on good authority to say that you are indeed, not white.

Brenden Azevedo
10-20-2004, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by BrewHaHa
I have it on good authority to say that you are indeed, not white.

I like Beverly Hills Cop.

If that is not a huge giveaway, I don't know what is.

Black Lotus
10-21-2004, 04:35 AM
lmfao.

Zao
10-21-2004, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Brenden Azevedo
My reference pics > yours.

This ain't a competition. It's so people can have good reference pics for modeling/skinning an M1 rifle. Glad you contributed ;)

Btw, the rifle in "your" pics was made early 1945, and has been re-arsenaled for Korea as the bolt is post-war, the rear sight and elevation knobs are post-war. Those are 50's production. It's also refinished in black parkerizing, which is the last dead-giveaway it was re-arsenaled for Korea. So... not really an accurate reference for a WW2 era Garand. It's not something the average doggie would have carried in Europe. At least as far as the skinning and serial ranges go. For modelling purposes, it's fine.

Wait, it doesn't count at all because it's the super-rare "U.S. Pifle Cal. 30 M1" :P
http://www.gamingforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8994

Zao
10-21-2004, 10:30 AM
Here, better reference pics in terms of correct finish.

http://www.garandguy.com/

In this pic, notice the middle and left rifle's finish color. That's wartime parkerizing.

http://www.garandguy.com/images/3consecutive.jpg

Brenden Azevedo
10-21-2004, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Zao
This ain't a competition. It's so people can have good reference pics for modeling/skinning an M1 rifle. Glad you contributed ;)

Wait, it doesn't count at all because it's the super-rare "U.S. Pifle Cal. 30 M1" :P
http://www.gamingforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8994

Notice the "muahahahha". :p

Yea. Easier to remember the serial number that way. :D

darkflame
10-22-2004, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Darkstorn
It's on hold anyway unless i can find someone to model for me.

Man and you were doing such a damn good job on your own, I'll ask around NSA and see if anyone wants to help:D

Darkstorn
10-25-2004, 08:53 AM
Ok, i'm doing some really slow progress atm, sorry for that i'm quite busy with other stuff too. Anyway, i've done the wooden parts and i THINK the whole model will be done very shortly.

[H2H]MetalHeart
10-25-2004, 09:32 AM
[SEC]MetalHeart:
Anyway, i've done the wooden parts and i THINK the whole model will be done very shortly.
Great man ! Take ur time ! :)

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