[REL]Colt 1911A1 (Hi-Res)
Splinter
10-14-2004, 07:22 PM
Model: Bullit
Skin: Splinter
Animations: Splinter
Hand texture: Splinter
Sleeve textures: Splinter
Sleave base/wrinkles: Dillinger
Sounds: Hostile Intent
Colt_Pullslide sound: DOD Dev. Team
A high resolution replacement for the Colt 1911. Enjoy
Thnx to EDITOR321 for the hosting.
I ORDER YOU TO (NOT CONSTRUCTIVE)CRITICIZE THE ANIMATIONS AND COMPARE IT TO JEN'S ANIMATIONS!!!
***LINK*** (http://editor321.telefragged.com/dod/Pistols/Colt%201911A1%20(Splinter).zip)
Richy
10-14-2004, 07:27 PM
may i have your babies?
Rancid Coleslaw
10-14-2004, 08:19 PM
Nice, very nice, congratulatory comment, etc. and so forth
My new colt.
Billie|Joe
10-14-2004, 08:47 PM
nice skins and all.. but your ordering us to crticize your anims and compare them to jennifer's :confused:
Splinter
10-14-2004, 08:50 PM
but your ordering us to crticize your anims and compare them to jennifer's
BINGO! I know how you guys like to compare and think its a competition or whatever. GO!
(not at you billie)
I like the animations. Any animations that are different from the default, floats my boat. I'll go ahead and put this on the DoDec too.
Klown
10-15-2004, 01:02 AM
the skin is excellent as always.
the animations on the other hand, really require a lot of work. they seem rushed and unfinished. for example in the idle animation, the gun clips too far into the palm of the hand, making the fingers which should be wrapping around the grip of the gun, float in the air. there is also quite a lot of clipping in general.
all the animations ive seen you do seem to fit this pattern. its almost as if they were a beta version of the animations, showing a lot of promise and being very interesting, but need a workthrough, to smooth them out, clear up clipping, fixing inconsitancies, and making sure they are overall solid. i see your animations missing this final step of polish.
you wanted criticisim, i gave you my point of veiw. this is of course only my point of veiw, coming from a fellow animator, although just a novice one.
flame away.:vader:
Splinter
10-15-2004, 01:04 AM
although.......the clipping in most of my animations are rarely seen in-game, it is not a big deal.
[H2H]MetalHeart
10-15-2004, 04:18 AM
[SEC]MetalHeart:
Nice,but...i will stay with klown's FN.
C&C:
-I don't like origins, they totaly kill anims,
-this move to the right after clip in, is nice, but...something isn't right, can't tell now, have to check it ingame.
Darkstorn
10-15-2004, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by Klown
the skin is excellent as always.
the animations on the other hand, really require a lot of work. they seem rushed and unfinished. for example in the idle animation, the gun clips too far into the palm of the hand, making the fingers which should be wrapping around the grip of the gun, float in the air. there is also quite a lot of clipping in general.
all the animations ive seen you do seem to fit this pattern. its almost as if they were a beta version of the animations, showing a lot of promise and being very interesting, but need a workthrough, to smooth them out, clear up clipping, fixing inconsitancies, and making sure they are overall solid. i see your animations missing this final step of polish.
you wanted criticisim, i gave you my point of veiw. this is of course only my point of veiw, coming from a fellow animator, although just a novice one.
flame away.:vader:
Seconded. Your skins are very nice but get totally ruined by the anims...
Sproily
10-15-2004, 08:34 AM
neat.. i dont usually use custom models because they are often really lo-rez but this..... thanks m8y
Andy Whyberd
10-15-2004, 09:45 AM
Now this is a Colt Skin!
Soon my whole DoD Weapons are going to be Splinter and Marzy!
All i need is a Hi-res Thompson, Springfield, 30cal!
N4Zi_MUFFiN
10-15-2004, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by ez
I like the animations. Any animations that are different from the default, floats my boat. I'll go ahead and put this on the DoDec too.
Yeah, it's not an anim contest at all. Even the defaults are ok in some cases. However, if the anims are lacking on a particular release, like splinter's mp40v3, I think it brings down the model as a whole and I won't use it. As long as the anims are adequate, it's cool to me. You can't please everyone out there and you really shouldn't try to, but there is usually a happy medium that will make more happy than not.
I also think it hurts the community as a whole to not accept criticism. If someone elses anims are better, don't cry when someone compares them. Try to outdo the better one. I think Splinter has a godly skinning ability, but I think certain releases (like the BAR, mp40v3) have just had downright sloppy animations. The skins have all been great, but a lot of people would rather use a different model than one that has no attention to detail in a certain aspect of its design. I don't have the time to do my own hackjobs due to work, school, girlfriend, etc. If a release comes out and is perfect other than one fault, it still goes in my recycle bin. When you realease a model as a whole, you are responsible for keeping the community happy and making sure its a complete release. If you were doing this for yourself you wouldn't be releasing in the first place.
John Wolf
10-15-2004, 12:36 PM
I dont like the reload anim, the way the guy lifts the gun before reoloading is really weird, im talking about the reload anim, not the reload_noshoot .......
darkflame
10-15-2004, 03:04 PM
Awsome stuff man, now please get back to the stg44, please:(
*EDIT*
Just got a look in HLMV, WOW, also will you be changing the hands and arms for all the most current of your work when the pack is finished???
Splinter
10-15-2004, 05:24 PM
Pls. I die for more replies. Unleash the inner Perfectionist in you.
EDIT:
More "I dont like this n' that" replies. PLS.! You guys sound so smart when you post that.
Brenden Azevedo
10-15-2004, 05:25 PM
Everything lookes fine to me.
Editor321
10-15-2004, 05:32 PM
tbh i like the animations, skin is what u usually do, its good and all, but not spectacular, maybe you need a new technique?
Splinter
10-15-2004, 05:34 PM
Or maybe i should just use default animations the next time i release somethin eh? Sounds like a good plan.
Editor321
10-15-2004, 05:35 PM
i was talking about ur skinning, not the animations
Splinter
10-15-2004, 05:37 PM
"or" keyword.
Brenden Azevedo
10-15-2004, 05:40 PM
Default suXX0rs.
Brenden Azevedo
10-15-2004, 05:52 PM
YEA BABY!
Strider
10-15-2004, 06:02 PM
Splinter your childish atitude grows old...
Good luck in the real world, if you act like this in a job after people critic your work...well your future dosn't look too promising...
Splinter
10-15-2004, 06:03 PM
hey, only way to fight a slowly dying childish community is to be childish yourself ;)
Brenden Azevedo
10-15-2004, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Strider
Splinter your childish atitude grows old...
Good luck in the real world, if you act like this in a job after people critic your work...well your future dosn't look too promising...
YEA BABY!
BIG MAN ON CAMPUS!
WOOT!
Editor321
10-15-2004, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Strider
Splinter your childish atitude grows old...
Good luck in the real world, if you act like this in a job after people critic your work...well your future dosn't look too promising...
not much of a childish attitude trying to get some critism to work with in my opinion to try and make better skins, but thats my opinion, and quite frankly, "good job" followed by "me uses" are not forms of constructive critism.
"animations suck" is not a form of constructive critism.
hell half the reaosn i stopped releasing my hacks is because i dont get good feedback, seems logical to me.
Splinter
10-15-2004, 06:35 PM
"i like it"
"Have my babies"
"OMFG you are GOD!!!"
"I dont' like it"
"I don't like *insert pathetic reason here*"
"I want this n' that to be red/blue"
"I want *insert pathetic desire here*"
You call that constructive criticism/crticism for that matter?
Hell if i wanted that i'd go to a kindergarten class for show & tell.
(4THIDUSA) SSG
10-15-2004, 07:12 PM
Then dont release anything anymore, quit posting, go away and never come back, if that isnt what you want, then be glad people post anything. Whatever you post people will give thier opinion or what they would prefer the color to be etc.., unless thats your friend and you will recolor, ignore it and go on with life, it isnt that hard.
If you only release to get praise and kind words, think again why you spend your time doing it, is it for you? for the community? your own knowledge of how to edit/model/texture etc..? Take it all with a grain of salt, if they aren't saying it sucks, take that as a good sign you are doing something right.
If you really want constuctive advice, then ask, say I really dont like this part or that part, what do you think? How about these animations I did, what can I do to make them different/better/smoother that might help direct some advice back to you.
If you are wondering what these three paragraphs are, they are called constructive criticism
Brenden Azevedo
10-15-2004, 07:15 PM
OMFG SECH
Splinter
10-15-2004, 07:22 PM
I can't help but laugh about why it is so easy for you guys to say that but not think about other (my) perspective.
Editor321
10-15-2004, 07:24 PM
your constructive critism isnt on the weapons however, and he shouldnt have to ask for it really, its the communities job to give their opinion, i try not to make :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster:ty posts like "good job" i give em two barrels of "what they could have done better"
"Then dont release anything anymore, quit posting, go away and never come back"
umm he isnt, suprise suprise
"Take it all with a grain of salt, if they aren't saying it sucks, take that as a good sign you are doing something right."
no1 can do something perfect, there is always something i can find wrong and pick out. its not a good sign, its a sign of lazyness
"If you are wondering what these three paragraphs are, they are called constructive criticism"
no not really, check the thread like pup posted his m1 vented carb, there you will find constructive criticism
keep the peace yo and leave the man alone:vader:
Andy Whyberd
10-15-2004, 07:31 PM
TBH i cant find any faults with this skin what so ever :D maybe the sleeves are not to my taste but i can changet that.
I think you have done a great job o nthe skin and animations.
(4THIDUSA) SSG
10-15-2004, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Editor321
"If you are wondering what these three paragraphs are, they are called constructive criticism"
no not really, check the thread like pup posted his m1 vented carb, there you will find constructive criticism [/B]
Read and understand before you say what is and is not criticism, I never commented on his work only his response to others criticism and comments, here is the definition in case you are confused
"The act of criticizing, especially adversely.
A critical comment or judgment.
The practice of analyzing, classifying, interpreting, or evaluating literary or other artistic works.
A critical article or essay; a critique.
The investigation of the origin and history of literary documents; textual criticism.""
Splinter
10-15-2004, 07:37 PM
Here's a sticker for sounding smart.
Editor321
10-15-2004, 07:38 PM
just stop before you get this thread closed.
I was expecting to see your releases go on through DOD:S but I guess not I never thought you would bring about such a childish attuide.If your going to act like that then dont post anymore skins.Your always going to get people that complain about a model in every thread.
Dying Robot
10-15-2004, 10:23 PM
I usually refrain from saying something that doesn't need to be said...such as the mandatory "omg Sechsassesuisisehui" which in my mind is the the oral equivalent of "durrr echhs dehj" *dribble dribble*.
If I like the work I usually say so, if not I say it if I got something of value to say. I don't simply post "it sucks" or something like that, because that does no one any good.
I really like the fact that splinter skins and animates, his work may not be for everyone but I use a lot of it and I think he's put something refreshing in his animations...Like his KAR or his garand, both very very good, new animations that are completely different from the default ones or any previously made custom ones. I think the fact that he release stuff at such a rate and with such quality he deserves recognition beyond the "sechs" comments.
Shame to see that the spirit seems to be broken now. I really hope you'll stick around, Splinter.
Thanks for all your time and effort you've put into your releases.
I'm one of the people who greatly appreciate it.
darkflame
10-16-2004, 12:25 AM
You cant :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster:ing make everyone happy with each release, I wish people would just :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster:ing get that and keep going.
Black Lotus
10-16-2004, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by Splinter
Here's a sticker for sounding smart.
lmfao, thats great.. oh that takes me back.. *stares at wall*
Steel Blade
10-16-2004, 04:31 AM
Nice, anims are awsome.
Black Lotus
10-16-2004, 06:46 AM
Only thing I noticed odd or wrong about the animations is how the Hammer is co-cked. You show the slide being charged when fireing, but after it moves forward, the hammer just sorta comes backwards. Where as the slide would actually c0ck it back.
[H2H]MetalHeart
10-16-2004, 07:07 AM
[SEC]MetalHeart:
I can't help but laugh about why it is so easy for you guys to say that but not think about other (my) perspective.
U've wanted C&C? U got it.
Thank you for your useless comments, Thank you all, God bless you.
[It is from splinter's release pack]
Hmm, that is smart, very smart :\
U can't make happy everyone, and u should know that. That's real life, sorry.
Leaving u left ppl who like ur job without ur next releases, but i am sure,
even ppl that don't use all ur models (skins) (yep,that's me too) will be sad,
becouse u made community weaker. Not very nice.
God bless u too.
Darkstorn
10-16-2004, 07:38 AM
I can't understand Splinter. I've seen *4* "bad" comments about his animations so far and now he's all moody and childish. And 2 of those comments are mine. Not everybody will like your work and you need to learn to accept it. I personally can't animate much, and that probably explains my unconstructive comments. But i clearly stated that it was just my opinion.
The animations *are* a bit... Ameteurish, but i'm sure you'll become a great animator some day, it takes time and effort. But as of now i don't think your anims are good enough yet. This Colt has the best anims by you i've seen so far, you're improving much. But you need to accept the fact that people have opinions.
People comment my models and skins a lot. Sometimes they're not very constructive and such, but at least i don't take them that seriously. You, on the other hand, are just making yourself look bad in front of everyone. You're just full of yourself.
Also, i really love your skins and that's the reason i want these for the default anims. I personally can't stand your anims at all ingame.
And finally, excuse my messy grammar, English isn't my first language and i just woke up.
Kraut-Killer
10-16-2004, 07:49 AM
OMFG. The whole community gets worse each day. Whats wrong with you all? He releases these skins/models/animations for you. Why do you post those stupid comments? Either post something constructive or don't post at all. Even though some of you did this, most people in here just post bull:hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster:.
Splinter has always been a great skinner and a hope for the skin and model community.
@Splinter: I don't think that the DoD community does your justice. You should move up to a new mod or start a mod yourself.
Darkstorn
10-16-2004, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by Kraut-Killer
OMFG. The whole community gets worse each day. Whats wrong with you all? He releases these skins/models/animations for you. Why do you post those stupid comments? Either post something constructive or don't post at all. Even though some of you did this, most people in here just post bull:hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster:.
You need to get your head out of your arse and realize the truth: People will always comment models/skins/animations be it constructive or not. I've only seen 2-3 people EVER say something bad about Splinter's work and most of them were constructive. And now he's like "ooo end of the world, let's leave the community".
Splinter has always been a great skinner and a hope for the skin and model community.
Great skinner? Yes. A hope? No. I'm pretty sure we can all just live our lives without him. His attitude is really getting on my nerves. He's a good skinner but with that attitude... I think it's better for the whole community if he leaves. Unless he changes his attitude totally.
@Splinter: I don't think that the DoD community does your justice. You should move up to a new mod or start a mod yourself.
Like said above, i've ONLY seen two or three bad comments about his models. Ever. In my opinion Splinter isn't good enough for the community. Sure he has a great skinning ability, and he's becoming a good animator too, but his attitude makes me, the King of Arrogance, want to kill myself.
Or was that just asskissing? Oh well you can't please everybody.
Editor321
10-16-2004, 09:03 AM
everybody just shut up? its over and done with, dont whine and ***** about it alright? It is his choice to leave respect it.
Dod community gets a bad rep with you guys saying stuff like this, ive talked to many people who wont release stuff for dod because of this :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster: and i dont blame them.
just leave matters that you cant comprehend alone and stop trying to think you understand.
N4Zi_MUFFiN
10-16-2004, 10:34 AM
Amen!
Kraut-Killer
10-16-2004, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by Darkstorn
You need to get your head out of your arse and realize the truth: People will always comment models/skins/animations be it constructive or not. I've only seen 2-3 people EVER say something bad about Splinter's work and most of them were constructive. And now he's like "ooo end of the world, let's leave the community". [/B]
He is the only good reskinner besides brutal who released quality skin since more than two weeks (and he released a lot of good skins in this time, not only one). On the first page of this thread, there are two negative posts which are not constructive at all.
Originally posted by Darkstorn
Great skinner? Yes. A hope? No. I'm pretty sure we can all just live our lives without him. His attitude is really getting on my nerves. He's a good skinner but with that attitude... I think it's better for the whole community if he leaves. Unless he changes his attitude totally. [/B]
Who has the worse attitude? The people who release things for free to the community and only want a bit of respect for their work and just don't want negative nonconstructive posts or the people who post negative nonconstructive posts just because they can't do it better than Splinter? And years ago, there where many great skinners and modellers. They have all left DoD and a lot of them did because of these kind of comments.
Originally posted by Darkstorn
Like said above, i've ONLY seen two or three bad comments about his models. Ever. In my opinion Splinter isn't good enough for the community. Sure he has a great skinning ability, and he's becoming a good animator too, but his attitude makes me, the King of Arrogance, want to kill myself. [/B]
Again, he releases things FOR the community. He gets absolutely nothing for it besides positive or negative comments. Why shouldn't he be good enough for this community? The community is probably not good enough for him. And there are a lot of arrogant people in these forums, not only skinners or modellers but good players (clan players etc.) and people who think that they have to make other people bad just because the things they do for the community are worse then those of other people.
Originally posted by Darkstorn
Or was that just asskissing? Oh well you can't please everybody. [/B]
Asskissing? What do I get now? Do i get money from Splinter for saying this? Please don't post such useless and unnecessary things just because you don't agree with somebody who supports a person you think of being arrogant.
Editor321
10-16-2004, 12:23 PM
everybody do the get the :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster: back on topic dance :)
"OMFG. The whole community gets worse each day. Whats wrong with you all? He releases these skins/models/animations for you. Why do you post those stupid comments?"
So what you're basically saying is that every release thread should be automatically locked so that no one can comment or criticize the releases?
"Either post something constructive or don't post at all. Even though some of you did this, most people in here just post bull"
Seems like Splinter is freaking out _because_ people post constructive criticism. If everyone just posted craplike "OMFG SECHS!", "HAEV MY BABIES!!!1", ,or "OMFG SPLOODGE NEED NEW PANTS" he would probably still be here. Those who post negative and unconstructive :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster: like THAT SUX should just be ignored or not taken seriously because they don't know what they're talking (writing/typing) about.
Sproily
10-16-2004, 01:51 PM
Just relax... There is no need to go through this conversation...
Although I too get a little irritated when someone posts ccrit :P because when I release something I always think its perfect. But yeah I come to the saying(?) that "You cant please everyone."
Thats when hell of a phrase.
Kraut-Killer
10-16-2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by ripa
So what you're basically saying is that every release thread should be automatically locked so that no one can comment or criticize the releases?
I never said that. You obviously didn't read my post.
Some examples to make it clear:
Constructive post: The skin looks great. But i think that the wood should be a bit brighter. The metal looks awesome though.
Nonconstructive post: I don't like it! I think "insertnamehere" looks much better.
I hope you get it now. And i neither think that posts like "OMFG SECHS!!!!!" nor posts like "THAT SUX!" should belong in such a thread where someone (i say it again) releases something for FREE.
SECHS isn't a negative post at all, but i think that everybody could make a post without "i just creamed myself", "can i have your babies?" etc. or atleast write some additional words down.
But ok, lets get back to topic. I enjoyed his work (as did many others) a lot. No need discuss about this anymore.
lagtron
10-16-2004, 02:08 PM
i think you all need to shut the **** up already
Editor321
10-16-2004, 02:20 PM
even better, maybe lock this thread so people will stop posting stupid stuff:angry:
rotzbua
10-16-2004, 08:38 PM
well its sad you leave, and i know this community quite well myself, but ya know, running away isn't the best way to cope with things.
I know my skins aren't best (they kinda suck most of the times), but i learned to deal with this community, the way they comment on things...
you should do too...
[DF]Panzershrek
10-16-2004, 09:32 PM
Splinter, I like your animations. They add flavour :D
Mwahaha! Good work! ....where'd you learn to skin like this?
:D
[DF]Panzershrek
10-16-2004, 09:39 PM
Oh yea...apparently, you guys dont know the PMs and E-mails, plus, IMs, Splinter gets based on his work.
His skins are pirated by clanners, people abuse their rights as friends, and pull wierd BS on this poor guy...Its hard work skinning, and I've seen enough early Skinners get laughed out of the forums before.
Try to understand his point too. I know, you should'nt be made victims...but just a few here on the forums well...deserve to have your own :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster: flung in your face. Course, im addressing all of the other dumb basterds responsible for whats gone on. They dont know that I know, who they are. :P
But...
Again, Splinter, your work kicks ass. :D Im fine with it, and no critiscms besides:
"Keep doing what your doing." :D
[noclan]Operator
10-16-2004, 10:57 PM
http://www.gyorgyzador.com/pics/dont_h8.jpg
Black Lotus
10-17-2004, 01:23 AM
lmfao...:kitty:
~*StaR*~
10-17-2004, 04:47 AM
my new colt replacement! very nice and sleek looking! i'm lovin it just like all your other skins.
darkflame
10-17-2004, 03:26 PM
Yea it just feels powerfull in-game, even though the weapon isnt in-game:p
lagtron
10-19-2004, 06:21 AM
forgot to comment earlier
best colt yet. gw
Guyver
10-19-2004, 05:13 PM
I really like all your releases, I'm using so many I've lost count. :D FG42,MP40,MP44 etc....
Bay of Beefeat
10-22-2004, 12:01 AM
It's a bummer to see so much bull:hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: here. Splinter is the best we have, he makes models better than the originals = dod team should hire his ass!
pls quit telling him to quit, childish or not!
II-tWEak-II
10-23-2004, 12:30 PM
btw, all you people talking :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster: about the "real world" are :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster:ing dumb, i work as a carpenter, people cc my :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster: all the time, but you know what, not the way people here do, people here post stupid ass :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster: that make really good skinners animators and modelers leave because "this sucks" "i hate this" kind of cc and its not nessacary and its :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster:ing pointless.
If your going to post something say WHY you dont like it or why you do like it or just a good job but all this pointless :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster: gets really :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster:ing annoying. and ontop of it all it gets me really pissed to see awsome people leave this :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster:ing community because of *******s.
this is the reason NOONE RESPECTS THE DOD COMMUNITY
btw, splinter, gl with w/e you do man
Engineer
10-23-2004, 12:40 PM
Wow, talk about maturity.
Billie|Joe
10-23-2004, 12:47 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think splinter is confused, lost puppy. ":hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster: msa"? Dear oh dear, you got it all wrong you silly-billy. More than half people responding to releases, wip's, etc do NOT know how to customize things. Therefore, you should be saying ":hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster: dod". The actual "msa community" are the one's who DO know how to do things and are active in the community, like offering help, constructive criticism, ideas, regular releases, etc. Everyone else (like me) are just people who are apart of the dod forum community and stop by this little section every now and then to see what's new. This "msa community" is consists of maybe more than 1 person atm who is moving on in the world and is involved with other mods
Hi brutal :D
darkflame
10-24-2004, 11:40 AM
Have I said yet how nice a skin it really is, oh and those sounds are to die for:cool:
Guyver
11-09-2004, 12:45 AM
I hate to bump this,but I figured it'd be better than making a new topic. Does anyone have this? It never got a link on dodec. :)
EDIT:
Someone hosted it at CDG :D
Splinter
11-10-2004, 01:06 AM
Someone hosted it at CDG
Goodie, it's on DODEC aswell, don't know how you can miss it.
Guyver
11-10-2004, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by Splinter
Goodie, it's on DODEC aswell, don't know how you can miss it. You're right, color me embarassed. :(
EDIT: Why is it seperate from the others? That's why I couldn't find it. lol :D
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