101st Airborne Division


Andy Whyberd
10-06-2004, 02:04 PM
This was requested by some people in my 5th Ranger post. No pic because my HLMV wont take screenies for some reason and it is to much hasle trying to get good in game pics.

Download (http://files.dodnetwork.com/download.php?userid=7&imagel=101stab.zip)

Not sure of the Credits sorry.

Just post here if you made somthing i used.

Credits:
Model : DoD Dev Team.

Vandal
10-06-2004, 03:02 PM
Not very good, Andy. Several reasons:

1) Thats not an airborne uniform

2) Lots of misaligned textures (especially the faces. Really warped around the nose/mouth areas.)

3) Only 1 helmet skin?

4) Only 1 body/legs...everyone wears the same thing.

5) Barley edited default faces

6) Patches on the small side

7) Bland skin on the default jacket body. If you're gonna have only 1 body at least make it a quality re-skin

8) no transparency on the bullets, looks like a block around his neck.

Main problems is lack of variety and or differentiation.

Andy Whyberd
10-06-2004, 03:10 PM
okay i wont do anything again?

i tell you what i will turn my attention to MoH from now on?

Darkstorn
10-06-2004, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Andy Whyberd
okay i wont do anything again?

i tell you what i will turn my attention to MoH from now on?

You shouldn't be releasing anything if you can't take constructive criticism.

Andy Whyberd
10-06-2004, 03:51 PM
but a whole list? come on! i know that aint a proper Airborne Uniform so what?

You do something Better Darkstorn, i would like to see it.

Darkstorn
10-06-2004, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Andy Whyberd
You do something Better Darkstorn, i would like to see it.

Uh.... I never said ANYTHING about the model, what the hell is wrong with you? You can't take constructive criticism and then the typical "my :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster: is longer" type of reply.

I've never hacked a model, i only model and skin. If you really want to look for my stuff, go into the WIP section, i'm not lame enough to post them in this thread since that would classified as thread hi-jacking.

In my opinion Vandal didn't say anything wrong, he said the things that need improving and he was VERY constructive. Sure, people say bad things about my models and skins but that only helps.

Mortar
10-06-2004, 03:57 PM
Sorry but i agree with DarkStorn and vandal :(
Lots of problems in this pack... it's Very inaccurate and messy.

If you want to release something then be a proffesional and know to take critic also the hard way.
Some people just say OMG SEX and it sucks.

First of all there are no pictures so he downloaded the model just to see it and comment, so respect that.
second he gave you a very detailed decent list with the model problems, without any flames or offenses.
You don't really do anybody a favour releasing something, you should enjoy doing it above all.

Im sure people won't appriciate such attitude in the MOH community either.

:(

syl
10-06-2004, 04:00 PM
andy whine berd :D

Darkstorn
10-06-2004, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by syl
andy whine berd :D

That was totally uncalled for.

Multiple Wounds
10-06-2004, 04:02 PM
Aww poor andy, dont worry mate, think u were in a bad mood yeh? Come back we forgive u :carrot:

syl
10-06-2004, 04:03 PM
lol please dont take my comment seriously, please.

ez
10-06-2004, 04:10 PM
Andy, I've come to learn that you cant please everyone in these forums. Hope you realize that too.

Syl, your already on thin ice, so I'd watch the smartass remarks.

syl
10-06-2004, 04:25 PM
I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and with furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know that my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee! lol


-all friends here, no troubles

ez
10-06-2004, 04:26 PM
You'll find out soon enough. Trust me.

Billie|Joe
10-06-2004, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by ez
You'll find out soon enough. Trust me.

lol

ez
10-06-2004, 05:25 PM
I know little kids like yourself are easily amused.:D

Billie|Joe
10-06-2004, 05:29 PM
oh no you got me there.




all because i said "yuck cs hands" right? :rolleyes: yeah.. who's the "kid" now

ez
10-06-2004, 06:11 PM
CS hands? What are are you talking about?

And yes, Malarkey. You are a kid. Mommy pays all the bills, bought the computer your typing on now, and hands you your lunch money before you go to school everyday. Better yet, tell me how your a "man". Or would you rather me call you a teenager? Would it make you feel a lil older?:p

Quit taking everything to heart. Loosing up for once. I'd give anything to be a kid again. :rolleyes:

Richy
10-06-2004, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by ez
CS hands? What are are you talking about?

And yes, Malarkey. You are a kid. Mommy pays all the bills, bought the computer your typing on now, and hands you your lunch money before you go to school everyday. Better yet, tell me how your a "man". Or would you rather me call you a teenager? Would it make you feel a lil older?:p

Quit taking everything to heart. Loosing up for once. I'd give anything to be a kid again. :rolleyes:


can't forget the term young adult. I get called that all the time.

Billie|Joe
10-06-2004, 06:15 PM
and you would know my age... how? oh that's right, you don't know :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster:. your one of those internet tough guys who thinks they know everything and call everyone "kids"

Let's stop hijacking this thread k? maybe we can have an e-fight

ez
10-06-2004, 06:20 PM
You told me your age. Forget?

Nikolaisqp
10-06-2004, 06:34 PM
wow when did a bunch of kids take over this forum. i remember back in the day when you could post a model ,or any thing for that matter, without a bunch of kid flaming and calling each other names and fighting like 8 yr olds. when well the madness stop. and by the way your model is realy bland i'm curious to what you actualy did on that model. other than add some patches and change the faces.

thats my 2 cents.
thank you and good day.

Splinter
10-06-2004, 06:51 PM
I'd give anything to be a kid again.

BaDkaRmA158Th
10-06-2004, 06:55 PM
YOU all need to learn a 4 letter word that start with L

AND UH,about that back in the day comment <---- dod 1.0 it has ALWAYS been this way.
and will always be,people call it constructive, i call it nit picking.

"its nice,BUT..no stop right there..i didnt ASK for your opinion so do not give it to me,keep your mouth shut,and your eyes on your own work.

Thats like me walking upto your wife,saying shes nice..but her left boobs biger than the other,her face is kinda funky,and you know what? can you put a thong on her and a short miniskirt? then i will use her.

sure its constuctive,but wheres the line of being HELPFULL,and just being rude.

THATS what you all need to figure out.

also,dont nit pick others work UNLESS,they ASK you to,such as...

"hey,heres a new gun im makeing,TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK"

thats a green flag for you all to pop your mouths off about every little M.F. thing.
BUT,untill that person says "yeah,tell me what you think" you should all have nothing to say but "nice,and im useing this for sure,thanks"
KEY WORD THANKS!

nit picking pricks.

Das-W00t
10-06-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
YOU all need to learn a 4 letter word that start with L

AND UH,about that back in the day comment <---- dod 1.0 it has ALWAYS been this way.
and will always be,people call it constructive, i call it nit picking.

"its nice,BUT..no stop right there..i didnt ASK for your opinion so do not give it to me,keep your mouth shut,and your eyes on your own work.

Thats like me walking upto your wife,saying shes nice..but her left boobs biger than the other,her face is kinda funky,and you know what? can you put a thong on her and a short miniskirt? then i will use her.

sure its constuctive,but wheres the line of being HELPFULL,and just being rude.

THATS what you all need to figure out.

also,dont nit pick others work UNLESS,they ASK you to,such as...

"hey,heres a new gun im makeing,TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK"

thats a green flag for you all to pop your mouths off about every little M.F. thing.
BUT,untill that person says "yeah,tell me what you think" you should all have nothing to say but "nice,and im useing this for sure,thanks"
KEY WORD THANKS!

nit picking pricks.

This model nice.


Opps, we learned nothing.

But hey, your way is cool, everyone smiles and really doesn't advance at all!

Releasing things on MSA boards are going to get crits, thats what people do. Any artist for any medium should know when you put your work out, people are going to crit it.

Snakeyes
10-06-2004, 08:27 PM
E-FIGHT E-FIGHT E-FIGHT

syl
10-06-2004, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Nikolaisqp
wow when did a bunch of kids take over this forum. i remember back in the day when you could post a model ,or any thing for that matter, without a bunch of kid flaming and calling each other names and fighting like 8 yr olds. when well the madness stop. and by the way your model is realy bland i'm curious to what you actualy did on that model. other than add some patches and change the faces.

thats my 2 cents.
thank you and good day.

dude this is a forum for a VIDEO GAME. so i think the real question is, why are adults posting on this forum. how can you criticize kids for posting on a game forum, when there the ones that video games are made and sold to.

Rancid Coleslaw
10-06-2004, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by syl
dude this is a forum for a VIDEO GAME. so i think the real question is, why are adults posting on this forum. how can you criticize kids for posting on a game forum, when there the ones that video games are made and sold to.

Half-life is rated Mature, as in 17 years old and up.
It's been clear for quite some time now that games aren't just for kids, and i wouldn't consider things like doom3, R:TW, dod, and half-life 2 as being marketed to kids.

ez
10-06-2004, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Snakeyes
E-FIGHT E-FIGHT E-FIGHT

LMFAO:D I've never heard the term "e-fight" before. These kids today come up w/ the craziest slang.

Vandal
10-06-2004, 09:40 PM
1) Andy, either learn to take constructive critism, (especially from somebody who has taken it in the past and improved to release some widly appreciated stuff) or blow. I'm trying to tell you whats wrong so you know what you need to improve on to get better.

2) ez/billie. Shaddup you internet tough guys :P

3)Karma, first of all try taking your time when you type. It shouldn't take me 20 minutes to read 5 minutes worth of information, secondly this is a community where we tell the truth. I'm not going to kiss this kid's ass because he didn't say "OMG WHAT U THINK" I'm going to tell him, accuratly what needs improving. In the recent m14 thread I said it was the best carbine replacement I've ever seen, because it was. I'm not going to say this is a good replacement pack, because it isn't. Andy needs to take critism and ask questions as to how to improve, instead of whining and getting all defensive.

In short, get off me, Karma.

4) Somebody either delete all the crappy posts here or lock this thread, please.

Originally posted by syl
dude this is a forum for a VIDEO GAME. so i think the real question is, why are adults posting on this forum. how can you criticize kids for posting on a game forum, when there the ones that video games are made and sold to.

BTW, smartass The average gamer is 28 years old. The post about kids running over the boards was stupid, but saying a game rated M for Mature is being made for kids is ignorant. Chillax.

Mortar
10-06-2004, 09:48 PM
ROFL ez ^_^

Karma mate i kinda disagree with you... i think that's the whole point of the release.
Off topic - im a proud nit pick prick.

Splinter
10-06-2004, 09:51 PM
EZ, you are deprived from your forum signature.

syl
10-06-2004, 10:11 PM
lol yeah. btw i figured ez was like 39. 20's is alright

Darkstorn
10-07-2004, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
YOU all need to learn a 4 letter word that start with L

AND UH,about that back in the day comment <---- dod 1.0 it has ALWAYS been this way.
and will always be,people call it constructive, i call it nit picking.

"its nice,BUT..no stop right there..i didnt ASK for your opinion so do not give it to me,keep your mouth shut,and your eyes on your own work.

You stupid or what? Posts like "it's nice" etc are ALSO opinions.


Thats like me walking upto your wife,saying shes nice..but her left boobs biger than the other,her face is kinda funky,and you know what? can you put a thong on her and a short miniskirt? then i will use her.

That's the worst comparison i've ever seen. Unlike wives, models are released for the public, thus making them available for everyone to download and comment


sure its constuctive,but wheres the line of being HELPFULL,and just being rude.

THATS what you all need to figure out.

also,dont nit pick others work UNLESS,they ASK you to,such as...

"hey,heres a new gun im makeing,TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK"

thats a green flag for you all to pop your mouths off about every little M.F. thing.
BUT,untill that person says "yeah,tell me what you think" you should all have nothing to say but "nice,and im useing this for sure,thanks"
KEY WORD THANKS!

nit picking pricks.

So, people should only post comments like "it's awesome, i'd die for it!11" or not post at all? It doesn't work that way, as a game developer(or you probably call it "game makeing" like in your profile) you should know that.

I can't understand why you're posting all that... Maybe someone said something bad about your models? Is that it?

In my opinion, posts that are constructive are MUCH more helpful than all those ass-kissing ones. Here's an example:

"I don't like it, but i'm going to give you a fully detailed list to tell you the flaws of that certain model you made, thus helping you to be even better."

or

"It's awesome olloollol!!111111111"

Let me state this again: If you can't take constructive criticism, you shouldn't be modelling stuff.

Engineer
10-07-2004, 04:33 AM
Well, posting 'OMG IT SUXX U R GAY FAG OMGLOL" isn't helpful, either.

Darkstorn
10-07-2004, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by engineer
Well, posting 'OMG IT SUXX U R GAY FAG OMGLOL" isn't helpful, either.

Oh really :rolleyes:

Trp. Jed
10-07-2004, 04:52 AM
You lot really make me wonder why the hell I bother being a part of this community. :angry:

Mortar
10-07-2004, 08:36 AM
Jed, you are the community.

Multiple Wounds
10-07-2004, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
You lot really make me wonder why the hell I bother being a part of this community. :angry:

Er u actually serious? Its threads like these that make these boards interesteing ffs.

No updates or patches for current dod, no screenies of dod:source.

Why the fcuk even bother visiting??!!

Im jus here for the releases myself, not to read :hamster::hamster::hamster::hamster:t that aint ever gonna happen etc :rolleyes:

Andy Whyberd
10-07-2004, 10:03 AM
1) Im sorry i was in a bad mood i just had my Mum screaming at me for 1/2 hour about my low school grades.

2)im going to see if i can put these on the airborne model. (if it lets me)

Vandal
10-07-2004, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
You lot really make me wonder why the hell I bother being a part of this community. :angry:

Because almost every other community i've seen has been filled with people like Karma? :confused:

Shane
10-07-2004, 11:09 AM
Hmm....

Some of you need to change your attitude.

@Andy, you should expect criticism when you release stuff, like it or not, its the nature of the beast in a place like this. And, by criticism, I mean constructive, which Vandal's was.

@Syl, however, there's no need to antagonize the situation by purposely trying to make things worse. Consider this your warning.

Locked for now.

Let's review:

*Constructive criticism is fine
*Baiting people is not

End of review.

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