Johnson Light Machine Gun
baldrick5
09-28-2004, 11:24 PM
damn-looks good thus far! i always wondered what it looked like.....or sounds like!:eek: any info on the actual gun itself? was it any good combat wise?
BillyNair
09-28-2004, 11:49 PM
baldrick5 - from what I heard the gun itself was better then the BAR, and its semi-auto brother was better then the Garand, but both Johnsons were heavier than their counterparts. That and the fact that they had tons of small parts made them realy bad for combat, lose one piece you are out of the game. And they were touchy like the early M16s, tollerances were tighter making them higher maintainance than most grunts would like to deal with. So they didn't see as much combat as the Garand and BAR, but were better guns other than that. Kind of like the AK47 vs the AR15, the AR15 performs better than the AK if it is taken care of, but the AK is a lot more reliable under bad conditions.
UTFRekoil
09-29-2004, 12:18 AM
Not entirely true.
The Johnson 41/44 LMG weighed much less than the BAR (6.4kg in the M1941/44 compared to the 8.1kg of the BAR), utilized a 30 round magazine (some earlier models had 20 round magazines, and on all models, the weapon could still be loaded by stripper clips or even one round at a time.), the entire design was inline with raised sights, which effectively helped negate much of the percieved muzzle rise. It also had dual bolt-operations: It fired in full-automatic mode from the open bolt, and closed-bolt in semi-automatic mode.
It was an extremely useful and accurate weapon, but as said it was delicate. Not necessarily that there were too many small parts, but because of the odd recoil operation of the weapon, many parts were susceptable to wear and needed to be maintained properly, to extents that normal haphazard use may render the weapon prone to malfunction.
It also used an odd 'feed tray' system, where if you removed the magazine at any given time, around 5 rounds would still be left inside the weapon in the tray. Just a little oddity.
On the note of the Johnson 1941 rifle, it beat out the M1 garand and the Pedersen Rifle in many tests regarding accuracy, recoil, etc. But lost out mainly because the rifle was heavier than all other rifles, and it's loading system proved more susceptable to malfunctions in excessively dirty conditions, where the M1 had not been.
baldrick5
09-29-2004, 04:32 PM
thanks alot for the info guys-interesting stuff indeed:carrot: :carrot:
Mortar
09-29-2004, 05:30 PM
Looking great pup... keep it up.
mumblyjoe
09-29-2004, 07:28 PM
Sweet! The Pacific pack is goin to be good :D
A few pics from in game,
When BillyNair has finnished the anims it will be released with a new world model (still have to do yet) new magazine sprite(see pic)
new weapon sprite(see pic) and new sound.
new weapon selection picture (working on now)
I have been playing with this for a few days now and it feels very unlike the the bar ,strange but true!:dog:
Sproily
10-01-2004, 08:39 AM
nice work
N4Zi_MUFFiN
10-01-2004, 09:14 AM
I can only hope the sling doesn't look as stiff and lifeless in-game. Take all the time you need on this so it 's one of the best replacements available. It should be able to replace the bar or bren, and make sure it's x-tra high-res. I really liked your m2 custom carbine, but the clip looked kinda blocky and the skin coulda been higher resolution. I can't wait to see the johnson finished. Nice work.
Go pup, its your birthday :p
It looks quite nice but the skin looks very ugly in wood and metal parts too low res.
Dying Robot
10-01-2004, 02:56 PM
Oh dang....this is gonna be sweet.
BillyNair
10-02-2004, 07:19 AM
UTFRekoil - good stuff, I only heard from around the campfire, nothing positive, so the rifle was heavy and the LMG was lighter, I will remember.
As for that sling animation issue... There are no bones to them. Some thing I didnt think about until now, but wouldnt be hard to animate if I had the bones to work with.
If someone can add them I will animate it, but is there a way to add them with out killing all the other parts of the animations?? I would hate to lose all the work I have until now.
all but finished the world model off.!!:dog:
Splinter
10-03-2004, 12:51 AM
lookin' good.
BaDkaRmA158Th
10-03-2004, 11:28 PM
Well now,first off..Pup,thanks for skining the johnson.
I guess ill be starting on the rifle now,and finishing up the uv maping for the lewis medium machinegun.
man,i need to get back my typein' skillz.
and my modelin' skillz.
ehheh.
BillyNair
10-03-2004, 11:58 PM
:hamster: KARMA's BACK TO SAVE THE DAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!:hamster:
BaDkaRmA158Th
10-05-2004, 05:02 PM
Man,why do i have to be SO lazy?
i know,a quick game of dod would help rise my building spirits.
what da? :mod:
BaDkaRmA158Th. mate you dont have time to play dod the community needs the Johnson rifle now!lol
Ive just finished the P_model for the johnson it looks kinda cool intill the reload inims kick in :-( suppose you cant have everything..:dog:
BaDkaRmA158Th
10-07-2004, 02:09 AM
Sure you can have everything,if you look at the model files,weapons with p_bar_l.mdl "_l for reloading" is the model file you need to make,do that..and the weapon will look like a bar when its being reloaded. "or in your case the johnson"
*****Im not sure if p_bar_l.mdl is the correct file.
I think bar files are p_barbd.mdl and p_barbu.mdl*****
and about playing,i am unable to play on a 56k.
so iv nothing more to do but work.
I hope this helps.
LoNe_SuRvIVoR
10-07-2004, 05:23 AM
Lookin real good. Im so glad you are doing this. Can't wait to use it.
BillyNair
10-07-2004, 09:41 PM
pup, try using the FG42 animations, I think that might be closer. If not, find which might look closest and I can tweak them a little.
KARMA - come to Utah, we can set up a killer DOD LAn party at my friends house (usualy about 20 people show up) get you stoaked, go out to the desert and shoot guns, blow $#!+ up, get amped, go back to Sac and bust out 10 MDLs.
:mod:
Dying Robot
10-13-2004, 11:01 AM
what's the status on this?
Originally posted by Dying Robot
what's the status on this?
The status is good its all good!
The model is finished; the anims are finished (thanks to Billy Nair)
The sound is finished
The magazine sprites are finished
The weapon sprites need a bit more tidying up!
I cant get the vgi to say Johnson rather than bar as yet!
The vgi pic is finished
The pee and wees are finished unfortunately I am still having trouble with reload animation as the fg42 anims don’t seem to help as the gun is held differently to the bar.
I have yet to sort out the way the Johnson P_model is held with the bipod deployed.
Apart from that its just about finished!!
I wasn’t happy with the muzzle flash sprite when using the Johnson so I made one of them too!
:dog:
Dying Robot
10-14-2004, 06:36 AM
neat. I'll wait a little longer then.
BillyNair
10-15-2004, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by pup
I cant get the vgi to say Johnson rather than bar as yet! C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\puppydog@aol.com\day of defeat\dod\resource\dod_english.txt
For some stupid reason, I can't get it to work if I use a "GOOD" TXT editor (not Word, "TextPad") so I had to edit the TXT in TextPad then copy/paste into notepad then save it. Just do a search/replace for "BAR" and it should work. Even the death messages will work.
BaDkaRmA158Th
10-15-2004, 01:50 PM
What can i say,thank you very much for everyones help.
you make my models come to life,for that..i am happy.
heck,i even played dod last night on a 56k pinging 360 "sure it took me 3 seconds of stright fireing to kill one guy" but i walked away with 46 to 2 "suck that axis"
god i love high pings..it gives me the advantage,i "lag-shoot" "lag-grenade" and "lag-dash" around corners..oh man how i love it so. "this is no joke,i do better hamperd than i do with a good ping,good old 56k days baby"
teheee!
Thanks m8 ,will give it a go later on!:dog:
BillyNair
10-15-2004, 06:50 PM
Karma... I thought you said you were burning all your HL reladed files, OR was that before you had a good game? Are you still doing sit-ups to look good in your debut p0rn film?
:dog:
Pup, let me know if it worked or not, I can see what I can doto fix it if it didn't.
PeeZwee
10-15-2004, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
heck,i even played dod last night on a 56k pinging 360 "sure it took me 3 seconds of stright fireing to kill one guy" but i walked away with 46 to 2 "suck that axis"
god i love high pings..it gives me the advantage,i "lag-shoot" "lag-grenade" and "lag-dash" around corners..oh man how i love it so. "this is no joke,i do better hamperd than i do with a good ping,good old 56k days baby"
teheee!
I was asking myself the same question today...
But sometime it sux, last night i was about to cap the last flag for
the win and be a hero, when i got disconnect. It's time
like these i wish i have cable :rolleyes:.
BaDkaRmA158Th
10-23-2004, 07:58 PM
Anything new pup?
Not had much time lately
Stuck on the anims for the p_models,as far as i can see it has to stay with the bar P model or the gun just isn't held right!
As for the menu ,i have tried every thing that billy mentioned but i only comes up with bar or no weapons for the support gunner.
Did email Billy about it the other week but zip so far!!
If you want to have a go at the anims for the P model pm me and i will send them to you , or i can just release the bits that are finnished and be dun with it!
:dog:
BaDkaRmA158Th
10-27-2004, 09:10 AM
Pup,please send the files to billy nair,and Boss|Junior
they can take it from there,that will at least make it so you have one less thing to worry about = )
again,thank you very much for your skin.
the weapon wouldnt be possible without it.
[noclan]Operator
10-29-2004, 12:35 AM
Nice work pup. It looks really ipmressive. It looks kinda like an FG42. Any relations between the two?
Yes! they are both guns:D :dog:
BillyNair
11-03-2004, 11:53 AM
pup, i just barely got your email. I will see what I can do with it. I am not promising anything soon, I am swamped at the moment with work,school, and stuff.
Ill see what I can do with the p_ anims.
LoNe_SuRvIVoR
11-27-2004, 12:36 PM
Status?:confused:
UNKNOWN!!!!
I have been using it for months now,i luv it..
I realy dont know if Billy or the BAD one are still going to bring out the pacific pack...??????????:dog:
BaDkaRmA158Th
12-01-2004, 08:06 PM
"Shrugs"
I have not touched a halflife model in weeks.
Dunno if i ever will again.
Splinter
12-01-2004, 08:26 PM
HINT: Use PMs and stop bumping up old/dead threads.
BaDkaRmA158Th
01-21-2008, 07:53 AM
Stupid dod, never say never.
Working on the pack again....again.
Its time to get this stuff out the door.
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