MWiP - Mosin Nagant (kar98 replacement)


ripa
05-09-2003, 07:34 PM
Yaeh this is an m/28-30 Finnish Mosin Nagant (nicknamed "Suojeluskunnan Pystykorva"). I made an m/39 for dod b3.1 but it sucked a lot (my anims sucked and it looked weird and stuff). I'm making a full conversion called Finnpack and I'm in the process of converting my b3.1 stuff to 1.0 and this is my first Finnpack model converted for 1.0.

I ditched my sucky animations, distorted the model to look good in 90 degree fov and removed the bayonet (I'm gonna put it back though :F). I also reskinned the wood to a pleasant-looking red-toned wood instead of the boring yellow wood I used before. Also, I improved the hand models a bit so that the fingertips don't look so blocky.

There's one problem with this yet unfixed: the kar98 reload and bolt anims don't suit this model well, because a Mosin Nagant's bolt is in a bit different place than the bolt of a kar98. The result is the hand grabbing air instead of the bolt. To fix that, I'm gonna have to h4x the anims a bit. Wish me luck.

Oh yas, pics:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~vuonnala/riston/m28-30_ingame1.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~vuonnala/riston/m28-30_ingame2.jpg

D: those links have to work D:

HS The Whap
05-09-2003, 07:35 PM
Looks great. :)

05-09-2003, 08:12 PM
heh you forgot to tell everyone who skinned the metal

btw thats not the most recent metal
http://ubox.thmnetwork.com/f_m39_p.jpg

ripa
05-09-2003, 08:17 PM
Oops sorry I was gonna give proper credits with release though :F Well here we go: thx to Safeh for teh metal skin :O

Strider
05-09-2003, 08:20 PM
Is that the FOV way???

05-10-2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Canuck
Is that the FOV way???

i think its teh degree the engine distorts the models, if you open up the dod models in hl model viewer you may notice the bayonetts and the fron of the guns are huge

Arsenal
05-31-2003, 03:41 PM
http://ubox.thmnetwork.com/f_m39_p.jpg

That screen looks incredible!

Are you going to do the WW1 helmets on the Finns? Please say Yes! Mayebe a mix of those and the Finnish made ones.
German made Finnish helmet Pic (http://home.tiscali.be/be033830/jukka/jukkam16_a_h_aa_outside.jpg)

ripa
05-31-2003, 05:31 PM
Lol I hate those animations D: The hand holding the gun looks weird :/

05-31-2003, 05:42 PM
Man you should get Dillinger to skin your wood, ims ure he could make something very good for it. Other then that the model looks very interesting. Once you release ill give it a try, might fall in love with it :D

Arsenal
05-31-2003, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by ripa
Lol I hate those animations D: The hand holding the gun looks weird :/

It actually looks downright diseased, but the rifle skin itself is nice

ripa
05-31-2003, 06:47 PM
Update:
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~vuonnala/riston/m28-30_ingame3.jpg

Dunno why it looks kinda dark :F Anyway, I still gotta fix the animations D:

Btw if you like the light wood better, it can be put on this model too :9

Sturmtruppe
05-31-2003, 08:35 PM
the russian mosin looks better than the finnish knock-off

ripa
05-31-2003, 08:47 PM
Umm this is still the Finnish variation D: It looks different than the last release because (I countered the fov distortion, I used kar98 anims, changed the wood texture, and tinted the metal). The russian one wouldn't look much different: rear and front sites would be different, as well as the bayonet :cool:

You can test this version ingame:
Don't mind the bolt action and reload anims :/ (http://koti.mbnet.fi/~vuonnala/riston/m39_beta.zip)

05-31-2003, 10:26 PM
hey ripa , just tried it out. just 2 things i think you should change

1 - is the bayonet skin. skin the handle to be metal or another color other than the matching wood. it kinda makes the bayonet feel like its attached to the rest of the gun.

2 - is the front barrel, i think you should enlarge it alot more to get a more defined barrel outa it. right now it just sticks a tad. it justs pokes out infront of the wood a tiny bit.

all in all, it looks good

(bolt) but you know that already :D

05-31-2003, 11:50 PM
Hey I remember that one, you posted a wip some time ago in 3.1 days, it was manufactured by Valmet if I'm not mistaking? (im Swedish, we've got the AK-5 and AK-100 :D)

ripa
06-01-2003, 12:21 AM
Might be Valmet made... although I think most Mosin Nagants in Finland were made by Valtion Kivääritehdas.

Those newer assault rifles are all Valmet's though (based on teh AK design of course) :cool:


I'll try to make the bayonet look separate from the gun. I'll try changing the barrel too.

06-01-2003, 12:35 AM
ripa, your using the older metal textures, contact me at safeh@gb-mod.net or on aim: safehkcg

so i can send you the most recent metal textures

06-01-2003, 10:12 AM
bump yyyyyyyyyy

gabagoo
06-28-2004, 07:38 AM
sorry to bump a really old thread. but has this ever been released ?

BaDkaRmA158Th
06-28-2004, 11:19 AM
http://dodec.hlgaming.com/main.html

Only drawback is this is a older model, but everything works great, its just the arms are old.

But i could care less because i never use it.
I consider skill geting from one side of the map with a smg without ammo for your main, one clip in the pistol..and one helluva bloody knife.
NOT,stoping for 1.2 miliseconds WHILE STANDING aiming realy quick with bright skins and clicking a mouse button.

But hey 1.0 BETA player..what the fek do we know, newbies love there RAIL GUNS :rolleyes:



yeah hope this helps a bit gab, i dont think it comes with p or w's tho.

ripa
06-28-2004, 10:06 PM
I could release it with Cheeto's animations if you want.

gabagoo
06-28-2004, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by ripa
I could release it with Cheeto's animations if you want.
and hook it up for the brits ? :D

so that my russian weapons will be complete :D

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