They all look the same!


Vandal
04-13-2004, 05:21 PM
I saw a post that basically said "how many diffrent variations on soldiers can there be??" Well first of all, if everybody STOPPED ripping from other games and did their own work, a million people doing a million waffen SS packs would yeild a million diffrent results, but granted, the world isn't perfect. So I'm opening a thread, post playermodels/skins that differ from the standard stuff we're used to seeing!!

-Desert Rats (Brits)
-DAK (Germans)
-French reisitance
-Australian forces
-Cold weather brits
-Allied officers
-British officers
-allied officer/enlisted mixes
-italians
-greeks
-romanians
-hungarians
-A pack with some older soldiers mixed in with the young guys
-US special (covert) forces
-German special (covert) forces
-US air force, Navy, Marines
-British airforce, navy
-German navy
-battle torn unfiorms
-fantasy divisions

Add to the list! I have a BUNCH of worthy ideas up there! next time you go to make a skin pack, don't do another SS RTCW ripped re-mix...try something DIFFRENT! I know I will just as soon as I get my new hard drives. :D

{tBs}IamDoydy
04-13-2004, 05:48 PM
nice suggestions, i would love to see some desert rats or afrika korps (you didnt list them).

Vandal
04-13-2004, 05:50 PM
DAK=Afrika Korps

Ska Wars
04-13-2004, 06:01 PM
Desert Rats V2 is in the works.

French Resistance
Free French Commandos
French Canadian troops/commandos
French Army

Brits (pre dunkirk)
Brits Asian front
Brits (Norway)
British armoured (Black Berets e.g. XXX Corps)
Ghurkas
British regiments (e.g. Welsh rifle borderers)

Belgium resistance
Norweigan resistance/commandos

Polish resistance
Free Polish airborne brigade (Jed's doing them I think)

Italian Street Kids (read the book, its ****ing amazing)

Partisans

Hitler Youth (battle of Berlin)
German Air force (cant spell the name :p )

All i can think of for now.

- Ska

Vandal
04-13-2004, 06:11 PM
I think its 'lufwatte' or something, Ska. Maybe they are paratroopers though...

Oh yeah!

British Paras!!

Ska Wars
04-13-2004, 06:15 PM
yeah its luftwaffe, i couldnt think how to spell it though so i dint bother :p lol

- Ska

Mortar
04-13-2004, 06:44 PM
Also, almost every unit you named got couple of uniform styles, for winter, for summer, for special needs and more...

the SS had lots of uniforms almost for every season and lots of camoflauge styles...

besides, you can get 2 diffrent skiners/modelers to make the same unit with the same uniforms and it will look very diffrent and also there are so much details that you can add to a player model, such as modeled shoulder boards, buttons, new faces that will always give a new look, strips, slings, straps, normal collars, making their equipment not to "float" on their backs... the sky is the limit basicly (in this case the sky is the poly count though ^_^).

GL.

Trigger
04-13-2004, 07:54 PM
There are literally dozens of uniforms and variations out there for the nations already in DoD, too many to list here. Then there are the dozens of other nations and uniforms used by the "minor" participants, armies and 'partisans' alike.

I'm temped to attempt to list some here, but the list would be so volumnious that it would take far too long to write, take just the US for example: There's the early m1941 HBT's, khakis, OD wool shirts and pants, 'm1941 parsons' jacket, late war m1943 uniforms (including jacket, shirt and pants), helmets (standard and paratrooper, and half a dozen types of covers and nets), beanies, 'jeep' caps, mountain uniforms, paratrooper uniforms, winter parkas, overalls, 'tanker' jackets, great-coats, mackinaws, half a dozen types of boots, leggings and various bits of kit, early through late war, and that's just off the top of my head. Mix and match that together with whatever unit and period you're trying to capture and you've got enough material to last a lifetime.

Anyone who can't think of something original to make simply isn't looking hard enough.

Vandal
04-13-2004, 08:00 PM
That's my point, my friends. That IS my point.

ez
04-13-2004, 08:44 PM
Hitler Youth (battle of Berlin)
Children brainwashed to fight a losing battle. Disturbing but skin worthy.

Swedish
04-13-2004, 09:52 PM
SS.

The US Special Service.

http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30362

Help them out, or we're ALL DOOOOOOMMEEEEDDD!!111

Mortar
04-14-2004, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by {CoR} ez
Children brainwashed to fight a losing battle. Disturbing but skin worthy.

afaik the hitler youth was some kind of a nazi style boy scouts, during the war those boys were not teen agers anymore and they formed an SS division and fought hard and fanaticly just like other SS divisions.

maybe even the end of the course in the hitler youth was joining the waffen SS (i may be totaly wrong here), i will check it out sometime.

Dr. Midnight
04-14-2004, 12:36 AM
Actually the kids where mostly made up of jewish children. Hitler saved their lives by forming Hitler's Youth which was more of a ring of rats who would rat out their jewish parents in order to get a new toy or even just because they thought it was the right thing to do. Eventually I do believe some of the Youth did become apart of a SS division but most were under the age of 11.(watch the history channel it pays off)



Oh Gilligan,
Dr. Midnight

Brutal
04-14-2004, 01:01 AM
Yes it is actualy quite annoying to look in the wip section and see one waffen ss skin pack after another, theres hardly ever any variety.

If someone could get me some good ref pics for aussie forces ill be glad to give it a shot:) as a replacement for the brits:)

Mortar
04-14-2004, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Midnight
Actually the kids where mostly made up of jewish children. Hitler saved their lives by forming Hitler's Youth which was more of a ring of rats who would rat out their jewish parents in order to get a new toy or even just because they thought it was the right thing to do.
Oh Gilligan,
Dr. Midnight

Bigest bull ever?

P.S
After reading about them, i saw that indeed when the allies invaded germany teen agers at a younger age than the drafting one were recruited to fight germany's loosing battle (and also as said in berlin).

Nordvolk
04-14-2004, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Midnight
Actually the kids where mostly made up of jewish children. Hitler saved their lives by forming Hitler's Youth which was more of a ring of rats who would rat out their jewish parents in order to get a new toy or even just because they thought it was the right thing to do. Eventually I do believe some of the Youth did become apart of a SS division but most were under the age of 11.(watch the history channel it pays off)



Oh Gilligan,
Dr. Midnight

thats rubbish - u wont find any jew in the hitleryouth - its like a Jew in the SS

Mortar
04-14-2004, 01:37 AM
Pfft The totenkopf Division were speaking yiddish by heart...

Swedish
04-14-2004, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Midnight
Actually the kids where mostly made up of jewish children. Hitler saved their lives by forming Hitler's Youth which was more of a ring of rats who would rat out their jewish parents in order to get a new toy or even just because they thought it was the right thing to do. Eventually I do believe some of the Youth did become apart of a SS division but most were under the age of 11.(watch the history channel it pays off)



Oh Gilligan,
Dr. Midnight
So shocking you might actually believe it. :rolleyes:

Ska Wars
04-14-2004, 03:51 AM
Well you're all wrong! lol

The Hitler Youth was cumpulsory after 1937 (i think thats the year but dont hold me to it) so there would of been Jews in the Hitler Youth. Other youth clubs were closed or made illegal which is why things like the Under ground swing movements and Adleweiss Pirates came about. For a few years there was even street fighting between them.

Towards the end days of the battle of Berlin, Russian troops came across German soldiers as young as 10! The Germans literally handed out guns door to door and told people to do their duty.

and Nordvolk, there were Jews in the SS, there were also Poles and other Slavs. At the start of the war the SS was completely 'pure' blooded but as the war went down hill for the Germans they conscripted anyone they could and shipped them into the first available unit. By the end of the war the SS were made up of a large number of conscripts and were very badly trained.

To be honest I don't think anyone should do another SS division skin as its pretty much done. The only one that would be interesting would mabye be the Thai SS division 'the men in the green gloves'.

- Ska

Nordvolk
04-14-2004, 04:02 AM
i know that they were slavs russians etc in the SS , but i cant imagine that there were Jews in the SS , do u have any sources ?
And i also cant imagine that they were jews in the HJ , they wouldnt have been accepted by the others .
blacks werent allowed to be in the Hj too , and the nazis didnt hate the blacks as much as they hated the Jews.

{tBs}IamDoydy
04-14-2004, 04:22 AM
i do thsi at school, i should know a lot about this... i dont, lol.

I know that Jews were kicked out of the SS when it became cumpulsory in 1936 (not 37 ska, nt :P )

Nordvolk
04-14-2004, 05:00 AM
oh my god - before the War only really Aryans came into the SS - they must have no non-aryans in their family until back to 1770 - that means if u were tall and blond but your grandpa was a Jew u didnt came into the SS .
Only with the war non aryans came into the SS.
the SS was founded before 1933 and then forbiden and later allowed again .
the date 36/37 has nothing to do with the SS

Ska Wars
04-14-2004, 06:05 AM
Do you mean the HJ Doydy? SS was never compulsory :p lol

@ Nordvolk. The SS was never forbidden, but it was pushed into the back ground as a branch of the SA. Only with the purge of the SA in June '34 did the SS assume the roll of the secret Police/intelligence agency/armed units (W-ss) etc

There were Jewish members of the Hitler Youth who had gone against their religion. I know thats hard to understand but you hve to remember, Propaganda was everywhere. It influenced schools, speakers broad cast speaches in the streets, 'People's recievers' were sold cheap, posters were everywhere, signs of military strength became, hell they were even giving medals to women for raising large families. It was hard not to buy into the regime in some shape or form.

As for Jews in the SS, I don't have any figure to hand but it did happen. You gotta remember, by the end of the war the W-SS was pretty much jus like everyother unit with a slap dash company made outta conscripts and foreign troops. They weren't fussed who was in them and foreign Jews were often thrown in.

Any way, on the subject of Jews and neop nazis, anyone seen 'The Believer'? Not WW2 but still a good film, about a Jew who joins a neo nazi group. Strange idea but a bloody good film, well worth a look.

- Ska

Nordvolk
04-14-2004, 07:35 AM
i dont know were u from- but im from Germany and i think i know it better - do u have any sources for what u say ?
SA and SS were forbiden once in the Weimarer Republik,
maybe some Jewish Boys wanted to join the HJ because of the Propaganda but they never be allowed - the Hitlerjungen got teached that the Jew is their Enemy and u wanna tell me their were Jews in the HJ and the SS.
some SS Officers really got sick when they saw Jews so much did they hate them but i think this the wrong thread for such discussion but if u have any sources please tell me.
No offense but thats crap.

to the topic : i found Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe Paradeuniforms would be quite nice , also SA (Sturmabteilung) and Volksturm,
and Hitlerjugend really looking like Children and maybe Gestapo
And something other , no joke : Germans looking like Bodybuilders with muscleshirts ( im not gay ) and maybe looking all like Dolph Lundgren and maybe Girls in Sexy clothes also for the Axis - maybe u think im a freak now which might be true .

Vandal
04-14-2004, 09:43 AM
Folks, please take the off topic stuff to the history forums.

Ska Wars
04-14-2004, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Nordvolk
i dont know were u from- but im from Germany and i think i know it better - do u have any sources for what u say ?
SA and SS were forbiden once in the Weimarer Republik,
maybe some Jewish Boys wanted to join the HJ because of the Propaganda but they never be allowed - the Hitlerjungen got teached that the Jew is their Enemy and u wanna tell me their were Jews in the HJ and the SS.
some SS Officers really got sick when they saw Jews so much did they hate them but i think this the wrong thread for such discussion but if u have any sources please tell me.
No offense but thats crap.

Please don't pull that 'it's my country, hence i know more' bollocks on me. Read any of the following books and then come back and talk to me :rolleyes:

Rise of the Nazis- Charles Freeman
A History of Germany 1815 - 1945 - William Carr
Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives - David Schoenbaum
Hitler: A study In Tryanny - Alan Bullock
Hitler - Joachim C Fest
The Triumph of Propaganda: Film and National Socialism,
1933 - 1945 - V. R. Berghahn
Nazism: 1919 - 1945 - J. Noakes
Adolf Hitler: The Furher - Rainer Zitelmann

I have page references too if you want them :rolleyes:

- Ska

Nordvolk
04-17-2004, 12:29 PM
i asked one who really knows about ww2 and it seems there were "semi-jews" in the wehrmacht but he says that he dont thinks there were jews in Hj and SS and i cant believe that too.
Maybe they were "semi-jews" or guys whose grandpa eg were jews in the Hj but sure no "really" jews.
and about the SS : before the war SS soldiers had to be non - unaryan back to 1770 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe there were "semi-jews" in the SS at the End of the War but im very sure there was no "really" jew in the SS ever , except they havent know that he was a jew !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but lets stop this discussion now - any chance that someone make a SA Model or HJ looking like children or Bodybuilders for the Axis:D (no joke)

Cheeto
04-17-2004, 02:14 PM
Wow, I was going to say the thread was derailed, but it's gone off the rail, into the highway, off the highway, and buried itself at the bottom of a lake.

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