plz reply to this, iv always had a problem with the spring field bolt animation. the current animation for the spring when u reload the bolt, is,well, its wrong... ur right hand didnt come off the gun(assuming ur right handed), you used the left hand and worked the bolt, dont know why, but i do know that the current animation isnt historicly correct, it wont bother me too much if it wasnt changed, but im just curious

Erm - actually, the most common way to work the bolt on any bolt action rifle is to use the right hand - take it off the trigger, move it up, work the bolt then place the hand back on the trigger - rather than reach over with the left hand.

Have you been watching SPR? I ask, becuase in that, Jackson appears to be left handed and actually reaches over the gun to work the action. Or maybe your thinking of CS, which is also wrong - the right handed models of the AWM and Scout have the bolt on the left hand side of the gun, and work it with the left hand.

lol no this has nothing to do with spr, i dont car ewhat jackson was doing, though he shouldnt have died i liked that guy!

anyways, im very aware that its more commen to work the bolt with ur trigger hand, but not the springfield, trust me... the correct way to do it with the spring field was with ur left hand (again assuming ur a right handed man)

Really? Thats certainly...odd :confused:

Is there any particular reason why this is?

Well that would be kinda difficult wouldn't it?

The main problem i can see with that is:

1) It mean you would have to take your sights off the target which is not a good idea if you missed with your first shot

2) If your rifle wasn't resting on a wall or something then it may be hard to support the rilfe while you worked the bolt.

If i remember right the spring was the US standard rifle before the garand wasn't it? Wouldn't working the bolt with your left hand slow your rate of fire down alot as you would have to reposition the rifle to your shoulder and re-aim after each shot. I may be wrong but thats jus the impression i got after reading this.

If i'm wrong feel free to shoot me (working the bolt with your left hand of course lol)

Ska

yeah ur kinda right, but anyways...u pretty much have to take ur eye out of the scope to reload the bolt, if u didnt it would be slower, and ud probly move the rifle which would distort ur vision anyhow.

ill post the link of the info where it says why u used ur left hand for the bolt. i think its in my favorites somwhere

very good ska

Yeah, i think this is based entirley off of watching Saving Private Ryan. Thats the only time i've ever seen anything gun with a bolt on the right side, pulled with the left hand. You say it's histyorically inaccurate to pull the spring's bolt with your right hand, would you mind showing us what or where your source is?

devin your a douche i already said thati didnt post this from SPR and that ill give you the source when im able to find it again, and if u dont beleive me then step the **** back and stop posting

I would like to see where you got this from. It seems like it would be so much easier to do it with your right hand....

I'll just wait till you find your source.

err its a little awkward working the bolt with the left hand, in spr jackson works it with his left because he is left handed, they even mention it at somepoint (i think)

Originally posted by Psycho
very good ska

Cheers lol

ah no wonder, i didnt see it on the web, its in my book.

Sniper by Peter Brooksmith
-training, techniques and weapons

heres the section from Sniper on the US springfield rifle, i guess i can quote it...

The USA adopted their best turning-bolt service rifle in 1903, and with the ammunition changes adopted in 1906 (the - '06 of the calibre refers to this date, not to a measure of the bore), this was their main service rifle for World War 1. The Springfield is another variant of the Mauser.
The first modification of this rifle, the M1903A1 was a change to the shape of the stock from the straight Mauser type to one with a pronounced pistol grip. The US Marine sniper version used in the Pacific theatre of World War II was fitted with a 8x Unertl scope. Further modifications to simplify production were designated the M1903A3, and the A4 variant of this rifle was issued for sniping. This is essentially the M1903A3 rifle fitted with a 4x Weaver telescopic sight on the receiver mount, and an improved bolt action. Though the bolt action had been improved it brought up reloading issues with the Weaver and Unertl telescopes. The bolt was now easier, and more user friendly with the soldier because it didnt jam as often as the A1, no matter how fast the soldier worked the bolt. Though there was a problem with the 8x Unertl telescope, and the 8x Weaver telescope. When reloading with those telescopes the new curved bolt would almost slide agaist the side of the telescope and was harder and slower to reload. The soldier would have problems with the scope getting in the way of his hand, especially for soldiers with bigger hands. Though a simple solution was that soldiers would start working the bolt with their left hand, which was slightly faster, and they wouldn't nick their hand on the side of the scope every time they reloaded. This weapon saw service in Europe in World War II, and the Korean War.

HAPPY NOW? i know my guns, well most of them :)

Hmmmm. A little heavy going but I think I get what they're saying. I've fired a few rifles but never a scoped one so I never thought about the fact your could catch your hand on the side of the scope. I'm still kinda suprised that it would be quicker, but what do i know lol

Ska

from what i read just quiker because there would be less fumbling with your right hand, i guess it means easier more than quiker, but i just put what it said

Originally posted by Ska_Wars


If i remember right the spring was the US standard rifle before the garand wasn't it?

Ska

It was the standard issue rifle for the marines in ww1, but the enfield p-17 was the standard issue for the army.