dod 1968 tet offencive


Nikolaisqp
05-05-2003, 06:06 PM
ok i have been working on a veitnam convertion pack for dod. this is what i have so far

tommy - m4a1
bar - m14
30 cal - m60
bazooka - law rocket
sten - owen gun
micarbine - m16a1


mp40 - mat 44
mp44 - ak47
K43 - sks
MG34 - rpk
MG42 - pmk
greman rocket - rpg

the brits will be the auzies
germans = NLf (VC) and NVA

the player model and the above weapons are done. just waiting for the compiler for the player models. and i need maps

so what do you think, do i have a good idea or should i quit while i'm a head

Editor321
05-05-2003, 06:08 PM
mix feelings, :P

Nikolaisqp
05-05-2003, 06:24 PM
i need input what do you think. i have screen shot of the m16a1 and the player models, i already made them for other mods.

bmanc
05-05-2003, 06:36 PM
sounds like a cool idea, but i cant really see myself running around maps like merderet with an m16a1

Dances w Wolves
05-05-2003, 06:38 PM
well post pics then

Nikolaisqp
05-05-2003, 06:38 PM
thats why wee need maps like siagon and hue and th ashua valley. valve could release it as a sequle to dod 1944

Nikolaisqp
05-05-2003, 06:41 PM
heres the player model

http://forums.firearmsmod.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=690940
http://forums.firearmsmod.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=690920
http://forums.firearmsmod.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=690926
http://forums.firearmsmod.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=690927

Cannon_Fodder
05-05-2003, 06:46 PM
That's pretty cool. Only map I can see it 'working' on would be forest... kinda. But hey who cares, make your own war in your head. If it looks good and feels good, go for it.

Looking nice, those pics.

Nikolaisqp
05-05-2003, 06:46 PM
and the gun

Wren
05-05-2003, 06:54 PM
The Vietcong are coming! The Vietcong are coming!


.... thats the last thing I want to hear in middle of a game of DoD.

Strafe
05-05-2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Cannon_Fodder
That's pretty cool. Only map I can see it 'working' on would be forest... kinda. But hey who cares, make your own war in your head. If it looks good and feels good, go for it.

Looking nice, those pics.

Foley
05-05-2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by Nikolaisqp
quit while i'm ahead

Private-88
05-05-2003, 07:10 PM
me thinks *how do they do it*


That model looks amazing man

2ltben
05-05-2003, 07:16 PM
I'll download and play forest for the rest of 1.0, since that map really reminds me of Vietnam for some reason(prolly all the kickass foliage and trench warfare, which was a small yet intense portion of Vietnam)

Nikolaisqp
05-05-2003, 07:21 PM
yeah i need the copiler and i will have the player models out asap.
i'm workin on the sleavs for the wepons right know and the models for z-company (auzies)

Rob
05-05-2003, 07:21 PM
Oh don't put the guy down people

There isn't nearly enough creativity in this community. All you see is Tommy after Tommy after Tommy, Garand after Garand, etc etc etc. Everyone trashes CS, but their modelling community goes out and experiments with new things. A fish as a knife replacement for example. People mess around with their Half-Life mods because its FUN and adds an interesting new dimension to the game that you already love.

I say this community needs more creativity in it. If this guy's set is a means to that end, praise him.

2ltben
05-05-2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Rob
Oh don't put the guy down people

There isn't nearly enough creativity in this community. All you see is Tommy after Tommy after Tommy, Garand after Garand, etc etc etc. Everyone trashes CS, but their modelling community goes out and experiments with new things. A fish as a knife replacement for example. People mess around with their Half-Life mods because its FUN and adds an interesting new dimension to the game that you already love.

I say this community needs more creativity in it. If this guy's set is a means to that end, praise him.
Look at the w_mills2.mdl controversy! I'm personally looking forward to those models, just as long as we get sounds for it. If at least the Germans don't have Vietnamese voicecomms then I'll just install the weapons and Allied player models. Nothing less realistic than hearing a VC yell Gimme a French Fry, it's like War of Infamy.

Nikolaisqp
05-05-2003, 07:27 PM
i mite have sound like that but probly not i don't know veitnamese or know any veitnamese ppl but like all good mods there will be up dates.

2ltben
05-05-2003, 07:30 PM
Go to a nail salon in Plymouth, Massachusetts. Christ, every nail salon in the entire damn town is run by Vietnamese. They're prolly just lying in wait for a VC AMBUSH!!(it doesn't have the same effect as it does on the OTT forums)

Corporal Rossi
05-05-2003, 07:33 PM
Well I like playing dod cause it's ww2 I automatically frown on anything non ww2. I am trying to make my own person nam senerio for fa though, If these exist for fa I am highly interested. So good work man, but I'd love to see these in fa.

urseus
05-05-2003, 07:33 PM
Personally i only have things which are 100% accurite.

The crazyest i ever got was a bloody spade, a helmet instead of a knife, and once in 1.3b a fish, complete with slapping fish sound.

Speaking of which, can we bring back the billions of spade replacements we had going for a period a little while ago.

Also back on topic, im not sure why you chose to do this kind of thing in day of defeat. Perhaps your talent would be better served in the tour of duty mod and modeling forums.

2ltben
05-05-2003, 07:36 PM
I want some charms for my knife replacement, since more than often you get knife kills by sneaking up on someone. However, I seem to get more bayonet kills now, and I'm pretty much only playing jagd:D

Jack Handey
05-05-2003, 07:39 PM
Keep the Greasegun, they used them in 'nam. Also make a remmy 700 rifle model for the Spring :>

Nikolaisqp
05-05-2003, 07:44 PM
yes go to the fa forums its called the veitnam player model under [allies3]cherry i released there. and i plan on keepin the greasgun. the resone why i chose dod fo this is the rockets the game lay and the clases and weapons. all i'm really doing is upgrading these to there more modern replacements of 1968.

Wren
05-05-2003, 08:49 PM
You know what would be a great orignal replacement? A ww2 shotgun with a scope to replace the springfield. Get shotgun sounds and such. Put a scope on it.. and in the end you can feel more confident about going melee with it.

Nikolaisqp
05-05-2003, 08:52 PM
the remmy 700 is a sniper rifle from veitnam not a shot gun. remmy makes more than shot guns

Wren
05-05-2003, 08:53 PM
I didnt say it was. Just the name remmy sparked that idea.

Nikolaisqp
05-05-2003, 09:23 PM
oh ok but a shotty for a sniper that would never happen in real life

05-05-2003, 10:17 PM
I think what your doing is wonderful, IF you were to get the DODteams blessing you could call it , DAY OF DA NANG!

And on the title card, "A Vietnam Mod for DOD". heh.

If you finish this i will play it. However i don't know how many other open minded types would also partake of your effort?

:D :( :o :rolleyes: :confused: :eek:

Nikolaisqp
05-05-2003, 10:55 PM
i don't care its more for me. but on the other hand i have the m60 finnished the m4a1 the m16a1 the owen gun and the new colt 1911. all with workin sleevs and some custom animations. dl links soon.
and the reason why i call it dod 1968 tet offenecive because thats about when the yanks lost the veitnam war. its the day of defeat for the yanks so you can see what i'm getting at.

*edit* and screenshot soon

05-06-2003, 12:21 AM
The M4A1 was not around for the Vietnam War (its predecesor, the Car-15 was though), but beside that, could be quite interesting. In the middle of a small French village in 1944, US conscripts and Vietcong and fighting it out:p
Or DoD_Charlie with the Vietcong/NVA defending the beaches in their bunkers:cool: I think it will be quite funny.

05-06-2003, 12:26 AM
wow, that's stupid. ;)

R3aveR
05-06-2003, 02:02 AM
I Liek your player models i think u shoudl release them cause i would download them and i love the M16A1 oen of my all tiem favourites so i think u should do it . plus i want to play as aussies since i am one....or u could make a aussie vietnam pack to use as the british

05-06-2003, 03:30 AM
leave the tommy be, and dont add an m4. the tommy wouldnt do the m4 justice. besides, u can have a tommy in the mod: http://www.thevietnam-database.co.uk/USarmy/Firearms.htm

The Cheat
05-06-2003, 04:29 AM
If you want Vietnam crap, please go help the Tour of Duty team as they could use good modellers/skinners/yadda for their mod. Please. It will help both them and us by not having vietnam stuff on world war 2 forums.

05-06-2003, 04:39 AM
lo nik, its me, Hicks.....

i've been at this for a while now, i had it in my sights, i just had to compile the vc and BAM 4.0 comes out.....

good luck anyway, if you need a hand, pm on cin boards....

Nikolaisqp
05-06-2003, 05:07 PM
yeah same thing happend to me

Cannon_Fodder
05-06-2003, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by The Cheat
If you want Vietnam crap, please go help the Tour of Duty team as they could use good modellers/skinners/yadda for their mod. Please. It will help both them and us by not having vietnam stuff on world war 2 forums.
Yeah but it's nice for those who are interested. Besides, with DoD they have a solid ground to work on, seeing as it's just an aesthetic change.

Devearica
05-06-2003, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by The Cheat
If you want Vietnam crap, please go help the Tour of Duty team as they could use good modellers/skinners/yadda for their mod. Please. It will help both them and us by not having vietnam stuff on world war 2 forums.

Oh...come on! Some people are gonna get enjoyment out of this custom feature. What's so bad about that? You know the way it is...if you don't like it, don't download it.

This thing will work well in DoD...for the fact that DoD has the best gameplay of all the mods.

You need to remember that Day of Defeat's gameplay isn't World War II, it's WAR. It's the models, weapons, and everything like that that makes it a WWII game...with a simple pack, it could become a WWI game, just like that.

I personally don't use unrealistic things like the GI Joe packs...but with this, it's different. The only thing that will feel World War II is the maps, MAYBE. It's still realistic, just in a different setting. As long as it's all in a pack and nothing is out of place, it's fine to me.

Besides, I'm sure that we could get some 'Nam maps someday. I personally don't mind playing in WWII style maps...it'll still feel like a different war, plus, I've got an open mind.

Anyway, I really would like this pack. But I really hope that the VC gets some voice commands...that really important. Also, sprites for the weapons would be nice too.

I still hope that someone releases a Counter-Strike pack for DoD someday. If I could only play C-S with good gameplay...to dream.

Sturmtruppe
05-06-2003, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by ncesky
leave the tommy be, and dont add an m4. the tommy wouldnt do the m4 justice. besides, u can have a tommy in the mod: http://www.thevietnam-database.co.uk/USarmy/Firearms.htm

i was looking over the info for the M14 (my favorite weapon of all time) on that page, and it says that without the M2 bipod that it only had an effective range of 460 meters. the Marines of that period were required to qualify with the rifles at 500 while in the off-hand position. if they could hit at 500 meters standing then i would like to see what the maximum range is while prone.

Nikolaisqp
05-06-2003, 09:27 PM
i made and m14 for the bar but it needs work i want to fix it a bit before releasing it

Nikolaisqp
05-06-2003, 10:21 PM
the owen gun is know done starting the NLF(vc) weapons now

Nikolaisqp
05-06-2003, 10:53 PM
and this gun for the bren
The 7.62mm L1A1 SLR (self loading rifle) is an Australian version of the Belgian FN FAL. The L1A1 is a reliable, hard hitting, gas operated, magazine-fed semi-automatic rifle, with a maximum effective range of 300 metres and a practical rate of fire of 20 rpm. In Vietnam, the L1A1 was the standard personal weapon of the Australian soldier. With a full 20-round magazine, it weighs 4.96 kg.
heres the site its from (http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-weapons/allied_recent.htm)

net on my list is the Browning High Power for the brit 6 shooter

05-07-2003, 03:51 AM
oi, mate.....

the only thing it seem you are missing is vietnamese voice commands, and aussie player models,

i have vietnamese voice commands, and a few bitsa, my m14 was perfect(bar) but now it needs a bipod

my current thinking is to swap the teams, germans = us and brits/yanks = vc/nva respectivly....

but i'll probably stick with yanks + brits = yanks + aussies, need aussie voice commands now..... :(

and a bloody compiler

R3aveR
05-07-2003, 04:01 AM
Im an aussie what commands do u need? lol

05-07-2003, 04:10 AM
you game for this,

the brits, simply say all they do, except in an aussie accent,

zip 'em an' send 'em to smeg@campus.ie

one fn rifle, keep the bren.... and loan them an m60 as well,

bingo bango, sugar in the gastank, ex-husband strikes again

blitzfenix
05-07-2003, 05:02 AM
Good job man, keep up the good work. Some people are unerappreciative of creataiveness but don't let that deter you. Keep it up man.:)

05-07-2003, 05:09 AM
by my way of thinking,

if you don't like it, don't download it

[edit]
is there a cs/fa to dod hands pictures, or can someone make some?

Devearica
05-07-2003, 06:21 AM
If someone makes an Aussie voice pack, it should be hosted for all to download. That's always a nice thing to have for the future. :)

Ska Wars
05-07-2003, 09:42 AM
If you want some VC voice commands I could try ripping some from films or the game Vietcong for you. A mate of mine speaks Thai pretty good so i could ask him to make some lol

Ska

Nikolaisqp
05-07-2003, 10:22 AM
i can try yo get them from veitcong and to day i finished the sks mat49 and the rpk almost don the pkm and ak47 but still waiting on the compiler for the player models and the browing hipower and i added a bypod to my m14. if you want hicks a can add one to yours as well. and can any of you mak p models for me i'm lazye and hate doing them.

Juggaknot
05-07-2003, 10:36 AM
You should release these on the Tour of Duty forums.

Nikolaisqp
05-07-2003, 11:13 AM
meh some of the models are from tod (mat49. law, rpg) the rest are from fa and what i hacked to gether. well i'm do guns a way and all the pee and wee models frome being done i hope the compiler comes out soon

The Cheat
05-07-2003, 01:07 PM
I'm an ass. I don't want people to have enjoyment. :) Hehe. I'm just simply saying, the guy obviously has remarkable talent and could really bolster the progress of ToD. It's a great mod, people that play dod play it a lot. Seriously it's basically dod 1.0 but in vietnam. Beta 1 I mean. I understand if people find it fun to use an unrealistic replacement model for a weapon that doesn't even have the same fire methods or cartridge but I'm simply saying it's dumb. You can kill people with a real computer M16 on vietcong, or Tour of Duty, or Men of Valor, or any of the other 3400035059590594095549059 vietnam games.

Nikolaisqp
05-07-2003, 01:49 PM
you don't like it don't use it it's that simple. and i'm done its all waiting on a host and the compiler

Nikolaisqp
05-07-2003, 02:24 PM
well i have all the wepons done hujs need the compiler . and heres a few pics

Nikolaisqp
05-07-2003, 02:25 PM
rpk

Nikolaisqp
05-07-2003, 02:25 PM
pkm

05-07-2003, 04:29 PM
whoa. Hmmm shall be interesting. ToD sucks, but cant you wait for CiN to come out before you start modding a mod?

Also, did dod_forest, inspire you to do this?

05-08-2003, 02:51 AM
i originally fancied a change from ww2, and nam is one of my fav wars.... thats my reason.... and i'm sticking to it :P

diamond-optic
05-08-2003, 09:33 AM
lol.. reading all these replys and **** are funny

ToD 1.2 is coming along pretty damn good...

once the new HL patch comes out and we can use transparent models.. jungle-style maps should be a hell of a lot better...

plus we got new player models :P instead of the poop models we had... :P

Wittman80
05-08-2003, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by diamond-optic
plus we got new player models :P instead of the poop models we had... :P


Yeah man, those models looked TERRIBLE! Just kidding dude! They didn't look as bad as some. Didn't stop me from playing it and having fun :cool:

05-08-2003, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Cannon_Fodder
That's pretty cool. Only map I can see it 'working' on would be forest... kinda. But hey who cares, make your own war in your head. If it looks good and feels good, go for it.

Looking nice, those pics.

i constantly have a war goin on in my head.......and right now *shudders in pain* im losing :( :( :( :(

Nikolaisqp
05-08-2003, 01:14 PM
when i get home i will compile and zip it up but i still need a host

06-27-2003, 07:38 PM
Yeah i like this idea, i think it all looks really nice but, when are you gonna release it?

Corporal Rossi
06-27-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Nikolaisqp
i don't care its more for me. but on the other hand i have the m60 finnished the m4a1 the m16a1 the owen gun and the new colt 1911. all with workin sleevs and some custom animations. dl links soon.
and the reason why i call it dod 1968 tet offenecive because thats about when the yanks lost the veitnam war. its the day of defeat for the yanks so you can see what i'm getting at.

*edit* and screenshot soon

Im sorry but we did not lose the war then, we kicked the vietcongs ass. Morale actually went up during tet because the enemy was showing himself and it was a normal style battle. The damn reports paniked however and assume we were getting our ass beat just cause some sucide bombers held the embassy for a wekk I believe. In the beginning we did take some hits but overall we kicked thier ass, I did a report on tet this year but i just threw away my notecards that had the vc casulties. Mainly the media screwd us over like it did most of nam.

Mr.T
06-27-2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Duke
The M4A1 was not around for the Vietnam War (its predecesor, the Car-15 was though)


Thank you!

First thing I noticed. Sorry, I'm just anal about that kinda stuff. :D

TheMirage
06-27-2003, 08:56 PM
People need to chill out sometimes. If the guy wants to work on a converstion for DOD let the man do it. I think it is a great idea because then more people get into the modeling and skinning of these halflife mods. WE DO NOT NEED PEOPLE TO CRY ON HOW THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS PACK. If you don't want it don't download it! That easy.

The only thing about the list you have so far Nikolaisqp is maybe you want the M60 for a machine gun? I don't know if anyone has told you about that so far or not just thought I would bring it up. SOUNDS good so far and I am happy you are working on it. Keep it up man. :)

P.S. If anyone feels like flaming me PM me instead of using this thread because this is for ideas not insults.

UTFRekoil
06-27-2003, 10:08 PM
The M4A1 was not around for the Vietnam War (its predecesor, the Car-15 was though)

Well, even used more was the XM177E1 and XM177E2.
They actually look almost identical to the M4 so only a
couple minor changes would be needed. You'd have to
edit quite a bit for the CAR-15.

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