Merry Christmas! :D

Dances w Wolves
12-20-2003, 11:01 AM
merry Christmas all of you, I've been away so long I doubt many of you will remember me or who I am or What i did when I was here hehe, but I still wanted to wish you all a merry christmas, and I hope that this being the season of good will, that this thread won't get moved or deleted, seeing as MSA releases and the old MSA where my home, I have no reason to post it amongst the strangers of a general or mapping forum :)

hope you all have a really great holiday, and enjoy the time of school, work, modding, etc.


P.S. If you're Brittish, make sure gary jules gets to number 1 over that pop idol crap ;) merry Christmas :)

Dances with Wolves - Skinner, Sprite maker, Sound artist, MIA :)

12-20-2003, 11:40 AM
heh, I remember you =P I used your Axis black ops RtCW pack for a bit, until Russ's Heer pack came out anyway =P

err, yeah, Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone :D

12-20-2003, 11:56 AM
yeah I remember you :D you did a bren reskin and a black greasegun(probably lots of other stuff too but that's the ones I can remember), seen you around on the old boards and stuff, anyway, merry x-mas to everyone and happy newyear ;)

Ginger Lord
12-20-2003, 12:24 PM
I remember you from your adventure into the Mapping forum, oh and The Darkness please not any of this crap.


12-20-2003, 01:07 PM
the darkness will be no 1 !!!!

not that boreing ****e :)

Ska Wars
12-20-2003, 03:45 PM
Eh up mate, long time no see. Don't worry, we don't forget the old vets that easily :D

Merry Crimbo mate,


Dances w Wolves
12-21-2003, 04:45 AM
i just wish they remembered the OLD stuff like the 1st EVER 1st airborne and 1st EVER 101st :) but cest la vis or however u spell that thing :D hehehe and the 1st 1917 revolver and 30 cal for the BAR :) sooo many memories

and long time no see ska :) I miss the old days don't you?

merry crimbo mate :)

12-21-2003, 08:36 PM
ARe u releasing anything? if u arn't then y have u posted in the release forum? We have a normal Forum for that.

=DD=Wolf Kahler
12-22-2003, 03:24 AM
Thanks, DW!

The Black Ops/Knights were my hack-job. ;)

12-22-2003, 03:51 AM
yes MSA #1!

Dances w Wolves
12-24-2003, 07:01 PM
i posted here kid and not in general, because this is the releases forum, when i was here, this is where I lived, all the people in here where the people I conversed with, and right from day one of beta 1.0 release however many years ago, this is where I've released all my work, if i posted this in general no-one would know who or what im on about, here, people will know me in this forum.

anyway it's 2am on thursday the 25th HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY! :D

12-24-2003, 07:46 PM
Muaahahaha, it's only 4:50PM here on the 24th in Hawaii, muahahhaaha. :p

12-25-2003, 05:32 AM
dude..... christmas was like yesterday.... dude ur not very fast are you, go see if ur parents didnt throw out ur presents yet

Ska Wars
12-25-2003, 06:19 AM
@ Reaver. Oi lay off Mr. Forum Police, its bloody crimbo! And show some bloody respect, Dances did some bloody good stuff for DoD in his time!

Merry Christmas mate, hope to work with you again some time jus like the good ol days lol

BTW You're SS Knights were quality Wolf Kahler, especially the MGer, he was truly terrifying to run into lol


Russ. Conscript
12-25-2003, 09:28 AM
yo yo yo

Merry christmas :cool:

Pvt. Paradox
12-25-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by R3aveR
ARe u releasing anything? if u arn't then y have u posted in the release forum? We have a normal Forum for that.

why dont u try READING his post?
he clearly stated the REASON for posting here

Merry xmas dww, nd 2 all of u
Yea i remember ur stuff....specially ur black greaser

Pvt. Paradox
12-25-2003, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Chanserv
dude..... christmas was like yesterday.... dude ur not very fast are you, go see if ur parents didnt throw out ur presents yet

Jack@ss, u obviously are a retail noob, and btw, hes from England, different time zones? yea...think a lot dont u

12-25-2003, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by =DD=Wolf Kahler
Thanks, DW!

The Black Ops/Knights were my hack-job. ;)

Oh, crap, your names are kinda similar, I forgot XD

12-25-2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Chanserv
dude..... christmas was like yesterday.... dude ur not very fast are you, go see if ur parents didnt throw out ur presents yet

jack*ss why the hell would you f*cking care about that sh*t its Christmas so have a merry f*cking christmas

btw: Hi again, DWW.

12-25-2003, 05:41 PM
mmm what a civil place.

I simply saying the there is a whole model skins and what not forum and ppl have got there posts locked for crappy (not so much crappy because its a good thing) posts that have nothing to do with releases.

Btw y post a thread like this when u don't really post much here anymore it took u a while to respond to my reply.

=DD=Wolf Kahler
12-25-2003, 09:53 PM
It takes a while for him to respond because he's in a different time zone [I believe? or am I confusing you with someone else in that respect because someone else said you were in England?].

Considering how much DWW has contributed to DoD from the earliest days [no, I'm not confusing you with anyone else in that respect -.-], I wouldn't stress the "right post in the right forum" stuff too much, myself, nor would I choose to rag on the guy. Fame should have at the very least the smallest of priviledges. It's not like he's some bum off the street raving lunacies.


I personally appreciate his decision to be there for and help any new members of the community that were coming to us as soon as DoD went retail. However, I do NOT appreciate how he's being treated by those same new people who haven't been there to know.

I seem to be having to feel that way a lot lately... New young punks barging in, thinking they own everything, showing absolutely no respect for the people who actually made this such a great community that any of you would possibly want to stay in...

12-25-2003, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by =DD=Wolf Kahler
I seem to be having to feel that way a lot lately... New young punks barging in, thinking they own everything, showing absolutely no respect for the people who actually made this such a great community that any of you would possibly want to stay in...
Err... I didn't actually mean to sound offending, just a bit humorous. Looks like I started off something guys, sorry. :(

12-26-2003, 03:47 PM
New young punks barging in, thinking they own everything, showing absolutely no respect for the people who actually made this such a great community that any of you would possibly want to stay in... [/B]

Lol young punks. I don't no if you are refering to young as in my age but if you are im 17 and well considering this is a online computer game i would say that that is a mature age limit.

Or if you are refering to the time i have been on these forums lol lol lol lol lol lol lol. Thats really funny. I might'n have been around for as long as Dances or whateva but ive been around longer then i have eva known you.

=DD=Wolf Kahler
12-26-2003, 04:02 PM
I'm sorry, did I list either of your names? Are you feeling targetted or guilty in any way?

Don't worry about it too much, Swede. If you have it in you to appologize, there's hope.

In general, seventeen may be a "reasonable" age for computer games like Quake, Unreal and Counter-Strike, but remember that there are some DoD players who were in Vietnam, if not born shortly thereafter. Their excellent attitudes toward fair play and sense of community are part of what made the DoD community something more than special.

While you may feel self-important for surviving so many long years as seventeen, you seem to forget that seventeen doesn't mean squat when you're kicking dirt at someone more than twice your age just for the hell of it.

Pvt. Paradox
12-26-2003, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by =DD=Wolf Kahler

I seem to be having to feel that way a lot lately... New young punks barging in, thinking they own everything, showing absolutely no respect for the people who actually made this such a great community that any of you would possibly want to stay in...

Amen to that

12-26-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by =DD=Wolf Kahler
I'm sorry, did I list either of your names? Are you feeling targetted or guilty in any way?

No im not guilty its just that most of that reply was based towards me. And by the way does being older give you any authoprity over me? Cause really i don't give a **** what u think whether your 24 or 13 like Paradox. I was simply stating that the is a less specific thread in which this could have been posted simple as that.

12-26-2003, 07:45 PM
Define Irony.

A thread entitled "Merry Christmas" became into a pointless arguement that need to stop.
Im not trying to take charge but guys just quit the little girly stuff.
Who cares what he/she said or what u said. Just quit it

Chanserv, not to put u in the spot light but dont fuel the flame with ur little comment u posted. :)

Merry Christmas Dances w/ wolves :) . glad to c ur still alive. Ive always been a fan of ur work.

Lt. Firmalo
12-26-2003, 10:33 PM
Sheesh...Anyway, I know its kinda late but Merry Christmas people (most especially to the MSA community)! btw just turned 17 december 24, I can finally get my driver's license! yipeee :)

12-26-2003, 11:07 PM
he lives!!! rofl love how you keep updating your sig:)

=DD=Wolf Kahler
12-27-2003, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by R3aveR
most of that reply was based towards me.

...If you say so.

It's not a matter of authority. It's a matter of respect.

Lt. Firmalo
12-28-2003, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Pvt.Malarkey
he lives!!!

lol! Its just that I kind of lost interest in DoD after almost 3 years of being loyal to this wonderful game. Don't get me wrong, DoD is a great great game but the engine is just too old. How I wish we could combine DoD and CoD lol. Hopefully DoD2 will make that dream come true :)

Originally posted by Pvt.Malarkey
rofl love how you keep updating your sig:)

Maybe you mean you like how I keep changing the girls on my sig? lol :p

12-28-2003, 08:36 PM

Dances w Wolves
12-29-2003, 09:21 AM
ok seeing as Christmas has passed.....


lol and thanks for the compliments those that have, and dont reply to anyone who *****es or moans lol it aint worth it and i dont want this thread locked.

and like i said, i might return and do some work. skinning for BF1942 mods is ok but its so much more complex and aggrovating than dod lol

i heard he new release made it beter and more like the good old days before they ****ted it up. so i imght come back o at very least next release if they make it even more like it used to be :)


HERES TO A BRILLIANT 2004!!!!!!! (in 2 days) :P

Pvt. Paradox
12-29-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by R3aveR
13 like Paradox.

lolz, wut u read my profile?

I hope u kno, not EVERY1 reveals their real age on registeration

Most forums ask of one who registeres is or over the age of 13
which is why i registered as a 13 year old


12-30-2003, 07:11 PM
theres also an option of not putting any age down. So y lie?

Pvt. Paradox
12-30-2003, 10:15 PM
lol wuts da point of NOT showing a date?

forget this, the whole point of this thread was about DWW wishing us a merry xmas and a happy new year, we'll just leave it at that

01-05-2004, 09:10 PM
*Steps into smoldering thread*

Wow, guys. Just... Wow. One of the Old Guard comes out of hiding long enough to wish us all Amerry Christmas and a Happy New Year and you'd think he'd dropped a diesel bomb on the place. Chill the f*ck out.

DWW, I remember you from before you had anything to do with MSA, and I've enjoyed seeing you and others continue on the tradition of MSA. :) Remember my old BoB sound packs that I was doing before Mercatorn and Rusty and... Freedom Fighter, lol? You were there along with a few others who were really supportive, and I never forgot that, so I just wanted to wish you a Happy New Year and great luck with whatever projects you have going on.

To everyone else: This guy earned my respect because he's been around a long time and was supportive, enthusiastic and nice to everyone even when others weren't so much. Some of you could stand to sit back and take a nice deep breath before you post. This is why the old-timers are leaving. Happy Holidays :rolleyes:

01-05-2004, 10:02 PM
read mine, mine says i was born on june 6th 1944:D

01-07-2004, 12:17 PM
Wow. DWW. Some amazing work. Back in the days. When the community was good. Now, it's ****. DoD has failed. Happy Christmas, and happy new year, despite this being late. I think I can remove these forums from my favourites list. And to all the old school ppl (ska_wars, DevKry, Mercatorn, Zao, DWW, firmalo etc), best of luck in the future.

Ska Wars
01-07-2004, 12:48 PM
You too Cheeseburger, sad to see DoD go down hill so quickly but I think jus too much ****ing about with Steam and all that spolit it for alot of people. Now the arsing about with the player compiler has kinda killed a large section of MSA.

Ah well, its only a game lol :p

- Ska

Dances w Wolves
01-07-2004, 03:05 PM
Zao, seriously man u nearly brough a tear to my eye, thanks man... and yeah i rememebr ure BoB work :) it was the best :)

thanks too cheeseburger, appreciated kid.

and Ska... it aint just steam..... it was when dod went official more than anything, we were flooded with noobs.

dont get me wrong the DoD team deserved to be VERY well paid for the ahrd work,e ffort and FANTASTIC quality of goods thye'd released to us. the problem was to get that money they effectively killed the game by over noobing it and limiting what the editers (us lot) could do, by over simplifying gameplay and over complifying editing, it was a sure loss. which is a great shame :(,

i heard the new patch goes a long way to taking it back to how good it used to be, but even so, i think it will be a long time yet till DoD was as good as it was befoer public release.

well here is to a fantatic 2004, hopefully in this year we shall see the old DoD get back to how it used to be :) lets face it, id rather we all clubbed together and paid the DoD team whatever they made thru valve, so that none of this ever happened :)

maybe one day us old timers will be able to come back :)

Russ. Conscript
01-09-2004, 08:11 PM
This thread my freinds, is a perfect example of why alot of us left. im surprised people still help people around here. This was a family, and its new members have stepped into a dying generation. DOD isnt going to last forever and has already reached its decline.

So lets not let this community go out with a bunch of us stabbing eachother. please..

i know E-respect isnt very solid, but good things come from it. ive seen what it can do, and ive participated in many a project that went on here. its just sad that this community isnt holding up. (at least i dont think it is.)

i know this is late, but i hope you all had a merry christmas, and have a good new year.

01-09-2004, 08:35 PM
i do respect people around here people like ska marzy brute dill and all them skiners and modelers i especially respect cheeto and klown because making animations are tedious and a pain in the rear now why i type this i dont know hahahhahahahahahhahahahhah

Lt. Firmalo
01-10-2004, 08:26 AM
Thanks, you too Cheeseburger. Happy new year, people..especially to the MSA community and the DoD team..even though it is kinda late:) I don't know why I'm saying this but like Russ said, this was a family and it still is. The thing is, we're all getting older and so is DoD..there was a time for a period of about 2 years I had a love-hate relationship with DoD. I would play it continuosly in a month, find me a new game and stop playing DoD then when I was sick of the new game I always had DoD to turn to. I just woke up from a pleasant dream which was DoD. I probably won't be playing DoD until it comes out on a better engine.

Thanks everyoneee!! I just wanted to say that :)

01-10-2004, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Dances w Wolves
Zao, seriously man u nearly brough a tear to my eye, thanks man... and yeah i rememebr ure BoB work :) it was the best :)

Heh. Thanks. The weapon sounds I did sucked ass, but they were the first. I was happier with the other stuff, explosions and voice commands 'n such.

Anyways, I agree with what you said, and what Russ said. All of us old timers know why we left and it comes down to just a very few things. 1.0 completely lost the spirit of DoD. It was just such a huge leap in game feel and then came the new people. Many were arrogant, rude and abusive. They were classic new people. They played their part the way it written to be played. The problem was, however, that they came to DoD in waves, in ways we didn't. They got DoD for Christmas, we got it because we heard about it from a friend who couldn't stop playing it. We hunted for links and finally found one from Germany that took five hours to finish because it was right before another release and there were no mirrors. We installed it, played on one of the 100 servers and stayed up all that night and most of the next day nearly jumping out of our chairs when surprised by the guy with his youth knife out chasing our butts all over the ruined top of the building in caen across from the bank. We found the game forums, read through them and saw such a coloful array of people and topics that we decided to register and contribute whatever we could. We've seen people show up, piss a bunch of people off and leave. We've gotten into flame wars with people who later became moderators (three times in my case, lol). We've been around since before many of the more recognized members of the forums joined. We've had arguments with people that ended in their permanent bans, and we've been threatened with bans ourselves. We've been flamed endlessly by people who have no clue what they're talking about. We've seen people who were really stupid become urban legends (Gangs :rolleyes: ). We've seen DoD go from being a really fun game with a cult following to a semi fun game with a slightly larger following at the cost of the old-guard hardcore fans. Now you have a community burgeoning on the type of temporariness of the MOH:AA crew. DoD had it's time, and I know it sounds melodramatic and sappy, but in regards to the community and our role in it as the "old people," well... We've had our time, too.

I agree with Lt. Firmalo. I'm mostly done with DoD until it's on another engine.

Btw, Russ... What band is that in your sig?

Dances w Wolves
01-10-2004, 11:00 AM
Zao, never a truer word said, i wish there was some way the DoD Team could rectify it to the way it used to be.

but i doubt they'd even want to bother. They got their cash, there's barely been any updates sine 1.0, or attention paid, they got their cash so we don't matter any more.

WHat does steam do? whats it good for? does it do anything better?

where do i download it and what else do i need to download?

cus i wanna see if 1.1s even the slightest improvement.

01-10-2004, 11:16 AM
Actually... I hate to admit it, but Steam is not as bad as I previously thought it to be. It lets you do a lot of things you can't do with WON, and after much patching and updating is a pretty good utility overall, but as far as I'm concerned it did more immediate harm than good to the DoD community. It split it right in half, and most of those who stuck with WON haven't come back. You can get steam at and once you install the Steam client, you can choose which games you want it to install. That should only take a half hour to 45 mins on a good cable connection, but if you want to skip that, you can download it with the DoD files included which might save you some time. Either way, it seems to work pretty well now. You can browse for servers in-game. There's a friends list, and you can see what games they are in from within Steam while playing. You can text message with your buddies from in-game, etc. It also auto-updates the game automatically and is quite quick, which means when a new release comes out, there's no link spammage and waiting for literally hours to find a good download to play. It's really a good thing that came way too late to do much good in our case. If it had been around before b2.0... then it might not have been the killer that it was to the community. Anyways, if you have any problems, or can't get it to work, we actually have a Steam forum here. It's right under General and any and every problem you could possibly have is in there with some fix or another. As far as gameplay fixes... there's way too many to really list, except that they finally fixed the mg42 :D Hope you get it working :)

Dances w Wolves
01-10-2004, 03:13 PM
thanks man, when i find my Half Life CD case again and I can find my CD key, i might download and install it, cus i miss the fluid gameplay of DoD. I've been here since the very first public beta release, i'm not giong to give up on it now :)

by the way I'd like to say thank you to the moderators of this forum.

For understanding why i posted this off topic message here, and for allowing it to stay and not deleting it, even tho it got a bit heated at one stage, so sincerely, thakn you.

and thanks again for your help zao, maybe i'll get to play ya one day :) maybe all us ol' timers can reform and kick the arse out of these whipper-snappers :) hehehe dag nammit, and other stereotypical old-folk sayings as well :)

viva la resistance! :D

01-10-2004, 03:56 PM
No problem, sounds good to me :) Although I have to warn you, I kinda suck due to the fact I haven't been playing a whole lot since 1.0.

Dances w Wolves
01-11-2004, 03:30 AM
dude, i stopped playing about 5 weeks after 1.0 release so i aint exactly gonna be at my best lol

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