[mprev] dod_crossroads


Rotkopf
12-14-2003, 11:08 AM
Stoffer, the mapper, has asked me to post a short preview here for him.

I am not participiated in the production of this map.

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Ok, hereīs the deal, Stoffer and Plato were working together on a project called dod_crossroads. The map was already shown off here but saw very little progress in the following month then, and certainly most people thought the project was dead.

WRONG. :p

Stoffer just contacted me and sent me two excellent new screenshots of the rural areas, showing off excellent low r-speeds (look at the pictures) and great graphics.

The map will be Brits vs. Standard Wehrmacht troops.

http://www.dodmaps.com/images/news/dod_crossroads_a04-1.jpg

http://www.dodmaps.com/images/news/dod_crossroads_a04-2.jpg

Here they are. Comments and feedback are welcome, and you should be able to find more screens with using the forum search; as I mentioned the map is already under development for a certain time now. ;)

divisionazul
12-14-2003, 11:20 AM
Nice... Itīs really dificult to make out-cities maps... open maps like this... the only thing that i donīt like itīs the use of british troops.. donīt ask me... :P

Any more screenies?

Ginger Lord
12-14-2003, 11:42 AM
I love the grass, where have I seen those textures before? :p

Quakah
12-14-2003, 11:59 AM
I use to remember that map while they were making it in dod 3.1 with the shiny skybox :D There was an area full of mud, I'd like to see that again :(

Billie|Joe
12-14-2003, 02:27 PM
oh yay crossroads is back....but with brits??????????????????????????????:( :mad: :eek: :confused: :o

kleinluka
12-14-2003, 03:03 PM
why does everyone whine about brit maps damnit?
there are like what...5 brit maps in total for dod.. I mean jesus brits have their own place in DOD so there should be brit maps.

It's a nice change in between all those US vs Germans maps.

Stoffer
12-14-2003, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by kleinluka
why does everyone whine about brit maps damnit?
there are like what...5 brit maps in total for dod.. I mean jesus brits have their own place in DOD so there should be brit maps.

It's a nice change in between all those US vs Germans maps.

Hear, hear! yeah i just wanted to add brits, maybe it wasnt very historical (from bob, there were brits in opr. market garden), its just that many american vs. germans maps, dont play very well (in dod)... so i wanted to give it a try with brits.
Plus i love the Bren :D

And thanks for posting Rot :)

-Stoffer

Darkwing
12-14-2003, 04:20 PM
if only brits had a better variety of weapons...:rolleyes:

those pics look great, i hope thats where the main battle will be, hope the gameplay is as good as the screenies.

Billie|Joe
12-14-2003, 07:48 PM
if you had a choice ingame in the allies between brits and americans then lets make some babies;) :o

Billie|Joe
12-14-2003, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by kleinluka
why does everyone whine about brit maps damnit?
there are like what...5 brit maps in total for dod.. I mean jesus brits have their own place in DOD so there should be brit maps.

It's a nice change in between all those US vs Germans maps.

they work on certain maps like flash and jagd but...but...garand:( lol

Eagle
12-14-2003, 08:02 PM
Doesnt Look half bad at all man.. keep goin with it :D

-Eagle

12-14-2003, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by kleinluka
why does everyone whine about brit maps damnit?
there are like what...5 brit maps in total for dod.. I mean jesus brits have their own place in DOD so there should be brit maps.

It's a nice change in between all those US vs Germans maps.

I wan't to second that.
Seems to me the public has taken a narrow perspective towards many online games.

I can't figure out if it's a necessity, a gene or something in the blood; but it's really frustrating. That's all I'm saying about that right now.

Those screenshots look tasty, but I'd like to see a nice bright rural environment. Because that right there (maybe it's just the skybox) reminds me of Waldo's para map. Which is all but dead right now because of the public's lack of interest.
When i see that I just hope it doesn't fall on the same fate, because DoD needs great maps, and great mappers. Not that it doesn't have that right now, but it seems to be weening imo.

Billie|Joe
12-14-2003, 10:08 PM
make it a bright sunny map with a smiley for a sun:D


....no really i'm serious.......lol

Trigger
12-15-2003, 12:16 AM
Looks very nice, but is that a plowed field with a grassy mound in the middle? It doesn't really make sense to me.

http://www.dodmaps.com/images/news/dod_crossroads_a04-1.jpg

Jello_Biafra
12-15-2003, 12:17 PM
It looks very nice, but I am worried that there will be a ton of those random spots that the player gets stuck on. I gave up on doing large areas of terrain because of those spots.

Stoffer
12-15-2003, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Jello_Biafra
It looks very nice, but I am worried that there will be a ton of those random spots that the player gets stuck on. I gave up on doing large areas of terrain because of those spots.

Don't worry ... I ran the map around and i didnt get stuck at any points.

-Stoffer

divisionazul
12-15-2003, 02:31 PM
Map is looking great stoffer but... we would like to see more screenshots...

Stoffer
12-15-2003, 03:41 PM
yeah yeah ... i should be able to put something under the tree for ya all ;)

-Stoffer

VoodooChild
12-15-2003, 03:45 PM
How about a playtest, say in conjunction with dodmaps.com, since I know you frequent that site.

Maybe a playtest with both British and Americans will help you decide what makes the map play better.

Plato
12-15-2003, 03:55 PM
i'm alive...sorta

Stoffer
12-15-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Plato
i'm alive...sorta

Ah mate, good to hear from ya' ... like the new stuff ? I've been making alot on your town lately and i'll show some pics pretty soon ...

And VooDoochild, good point i had pretty much the same idea.

-Stoffer

RA7
12-15-2003, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Stoffer
yeah yeah ... i should be able to put something under the tree for ya all ;)

-Stoffer

A BETA around Christmas?? :p

Plato
12-15-2003, 06:02 PM
i guess its time to come out of the closet...

i....and stoffer....are....




















working on crossroads together again, yay

Silverghost
12-15-2003, 06:43 PM
yeah, Rotkopf said that in the first post.

Plato
12-15-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Silverghost
yeah, Rotkopf said that in the first post.

where?

Quakah
12-15-2003, 11:56 PM
Is it possible to add some kind of mud area somewhere? because that would give some spirit, my grandfather told me the worst circumstances to fight in was either a sandstorm or a place of mud where you had to hold the line while it was raining, you were completely wet, the fat dirty mud you'd had to sleep in and the icy wind. Could you make such an area? would be really cool to play in!

Plato
12-16-2003, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Quakah
Is it possible to add some kind of mud area somewhere? because that would give some spirit, my grandfather told me the worst circumstances to fight in was either a sandstorm or a place of mud where you had to hold the line while it was raining, you were completely wet, the fat dirty mud you'd had to sleep in and the icy wind. Could you make such an area? would be really cool to play in!

Its not like you could "expiernce" the mud. It wouldn't change your gaming expiernce or gameplay at all if we slapped some mud textures on the ground. I think that the grass is more asthetic and will probaly stay mostly grassy.

Stoffer
12-16-2003, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Plato
Its not like you could "expiernce" the mud. It wouldn't change your gaming expiernce or gameplay at all if we slapped some mud textures on the ground. I think that the grass is more asthetic and will probaly stay mostly grassy.
Hear! Hear! there will be some of flomatics grass models in it.

-Stoffer

Spoonman
12-16-2003, 06:22 PM
why ruin the map by putting brits in it?

Billie|Joe
12-16-2003, 08:29 PM
anyway to put both:p

Ginger Lord
12-17-2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Spoonman
why ruin the map by putting brits in it?


Would you like to hit anyone at a distance in this map, or do you just want to put covering fire down with your Garand?

Stoffer
12-17-2003, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Spoonman
why ruin the map by putting brits in it?

Ruin ? first of all. Listen, this map is'nt totally based on band of brother eps. 5 and brit were in the opr. market garden, so im not going to make the map JUST LIKE BOB.

Many maps aint good because of the allies don't have a chance, i mean it, the kar98 kills and hits at the first shoot, and with the low recoil is it no problem to stand-shoot (suckage for real) but thats how the game is ...

And the only army (i think) can handle the axis without good garand training, is the brits, thats what i think.
Plus we dont have many brit maps nowadays.

Oh and the pictures you see is the main battlefield. atm am i talking to Plato about how the map is going to be. And sending him the rmfs, because lost it all in a HD Crash.

-Stoffer

Darkwing
12-17-2003, 02:40 AM
yeah stoffer, you have to set up the choke points and layout just right so that that area gets plenty of game attention and not just some side part where nobody goes... which was the impression i once had back when there was some town and bridge and cafe de normandy in the map. good luck with designing the layout, thats the most important aspect when it comes to gameplay.

Godcha
12-17-2003, 09:37 AM
looks really great :)

Kraut-Killer
12-17-2003, 10:35 AM
pffff, most people say that the weapon balance is fine, but now they say that the garand is way inferior at long range.

Anyway, i don't want to start the garand/kar thing again, but i think that putting the brits in isn't a good idea. Reminds me of Caen.

Stoffer
12-17-2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by Kraut-Killer
pffff, most people say that the weapon balance is fine, but now they say that the garand is way inferior at long range.

Anyway, i don't want to start the garand/kar thing again, but i think that putting the brits in isn't a good idea. Reminds me of Caen.

Your right! (about the: i don't want to start the garand/kar thing again) and as ive said: There will be a playtest with brits and US.

-Stoffer

Silverghost
12-17-2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Plato
where?
Originally posted by Rotkopf
Ok, hereīs the deal, Stoffer and Plato were working together on a project called dod_crossroads.
;)

Oh btw, good looking map :D

Cpl.1nsane
12-18-2003, 07:57 AM
Looks very nice :)

kleinluka
12-18-2003, 01:45 PM
some more pics would be nice.

Plato
12-18-2003, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by kleinluka
some more pics would be nice.

There's the city but pics won't be up till nextweek. I still need to get the rmf from Stoffer, make some changes and then i'll put some pics up. Stoffer may have some other stuff but I have nothing. I just installed and used Hammer yesterday for the first time in about 3 months. It's comming and we'll get it to you guys ASFAP

:-)

travis
12-18-2003, 09:57 PM
looking good

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