I cant solve this! All the error help tutorials mostly say something like "the texture cant be handled by old cards, you must decide to leave those people behind" or something. Doesnt say how to solve!

But even if i replace all the textures with just one, it still gives me the error on wads that arent even in use. I've tried not to resort to this but im tired of fighting it and im ready to throw up. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading this.

what exactly is your problem?

I cant beleive i forgot this in the post, but the error it gives me says"Larger than expected Texture" Thanks.

That isn't the number of textures that is your problem. It's a single texture that is to big. There is one in kami's wad ... can't remember which one, I just ignore the problem :rolleyes:

well...it wont let me run the map. It gives that error "the map has a problem which must be fixed". And it says theres too big of texture in all of the wads.

This most likley is not the error stopping your map, paste your compile log here.

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** Executing...
** Command: Change Directory
** Parameters: C:\SIERRA\Half-Life


** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\MAP STUFF\DoD\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1.map" "C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\dod\maps\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1.map"


** Executing...
** Command: C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\Desktop\ZHLT25~1\hlcsg.exe
** Parameters: "C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\dod\maps\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1"

hlcsg v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\Desktop\ZHLT25~1\hlcsg.exe C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\dod\maps\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1
Entering C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\dod\maps\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ on ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]

0 brushes (totalling 0 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90 %... (0.21 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
50%... (0.00 seconds)
CSGBrush:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90 %... (0.88 seconds)

Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\valve\halflife.wad
- Contains 1 used texture, 100.00 percent of map (3116 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \documents and settings\owner\desktop\zhlt253-17\zhlt.wad
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (3 textures in wad)
Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\valve\classic_kleineh_dod.wad
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (156 textures in wad)
Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\valve\kami-platinum.wad
- Warning: Larger than expected texture (348972 bytes): '{K_TREE4'
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (774 textures in wad)
Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\valve\kpur.wad
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (220 textures in wad)
Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\valve\xerent.wad
- Warning: Larger than expected texture (218412 bytes): '{X_TREE12A'
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (170 textures in wad)

Texture usage is at 0.00 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
1.20 seconds elapsed

----- END hlcsg -----




** Executing...
** Command: C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\Desktop\ZHLT25~1\hlbsp.exe
** Parameters: "C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\dod\maps\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1"

hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlbsp -----
Command line: C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\Desktop\ZHLT25~1\hlbsp.exe C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\dod\maps\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1

Current hlbsp Settings
Name | Setting | Default
-------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
nofill [ off ] [ off ]
null tex. stripping [ on ] [ on ]
notjunc [ off ] [ off ]
subdivide size [ 240 ] [ 240 ] (Min 64) (Max 512)
max node size [ 1024 ] [ 1024 ] (Min 64) (Max 4096)


BSP generation successful, writing portal file 'C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\dod\maps\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1.prt'
1.59 seconds elapsed

----- END hlbsp -----




** Executing...
** Command: C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\Desktop\ZHLT25~1\hlvis.exe
** Parameters: -fast "C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\dod\maps\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1"

g_fastvis = true
hlvis v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlvis -----
Command line: C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\Desktop\ZHLT25~1\hlvis.exe -fast C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\dod\maps\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1
179 portalleafs
532 numportals

-= Current hlvis Settings =-
Name | Setting | Default
-------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max vis distance [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

fast vis [ on ] [ off ]
full vis [ off ] [ off ]


BasePortalVis:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90 %... (0.10 seconds)
average leafs visible: 150
g_visdatasize:4456 compressed from 4117
0.14 seconds elapsed

----- END hlvis -----




** Executing...
** Command: C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\Desktop\ZHLT25~1\hlrad.exe
** Parameters: "C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\dod\maps\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1"

hlrad v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlrad -----
Command line: C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\Desktop\ZHLT25~1\hlrad.exe C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\dod\maps\dod_Rothenburgtesthole1

-= Current hlrad Settings =-
Name | Setting | Default
--------------------|---------------------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

vismatrix algorithm [ Original ] [ Original ]
oversampling (-extra)[ off ] [ off ]
bounces [ 1 ] [ 1 ]
ambient light [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ] [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ]
maximum light [ 255.000 ] [ 256.000 ]
circus mode [ off ] [ off ]

smoothing threshold [ 50.000 ] [ 50.000 ]
direct threshold [ 25.000 ] [ 25.000 ]
direct light scale [ 2.000 ] [ 2.000 ]
coring threshold [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
patch interpolation [ on ] [ on ]

texscale [ on ] [ on ]
patch subdividing [ on ] [ on ]
chop value [ 64.000 ] [ 64.000 ]
texchop value [ 32.000 ] [ 32.000 ]

global fade [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global falloff [ 2 ] [ 2 ]
global light scale [ 1.000 1.000 1.000 ] [ 1.000 1.000 1.000 ]
global gamma [ 0.500 0.500 0.500 ] [ 0.500 0.500 0.500 ]
global light scale [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global sky diffusion [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]

opaque entities [ on ] [ on ]
sky lighting fix [ on ] [ on ]
incremental [ off ] [ off ]
dump [ off ] [ off ]

colour jitter [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
monochromatic jitter [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
softlight hack [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
diffuse hack [ on ] [ on ]
spotlight points [ on ] [ on ]

custom shadows with bounce light
[ off ] [ off ]
rgb transfers [ off ] [ off ]


617 faces
Create Patches : 0 base patches
0 opaque faces
0 square feet [0.00 square inches]
3 direct lights

BuildFacelights:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90 %... (0.00 seconds)
visibility matrix : 0.0 megs
Warning: Attempting to allocate 0 bytes
BuildVisLeafs:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90 %... (0.01 seconds)
MakeScales:
(0.00 seconds)
SwapTransfers:
(0.00 seconds)
Transfer Lists : 0 transfers
Indices : 0 bytes
Indices : 0 bytes
Bounce 1 GatherLight:
(0.00 seconds)
FinalLightFace:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90 %... (0.00 seconds)
0.07 seconds elapsed

----- END hlrad -----

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that is a warning, not an error.

the compile looks good. if your map is not running, you must have forgotten some needed entities or something.

Well, it kinda worked. It compiles ok, but the everytime i shoot, Half-life crashes. And thats about it.

Looked at the compile log, and eventhough it indicates your map compiled without error, the problem lies back at hlcsg. It indicates that out of all the wads you specified, you use only 1 texture from halflife.wad for the whole map!! This probably isn't the case :)

Hammer sometimes chokes on paths that have spaces in them, and your zhlt.wad file path contains spaces. Move zhlt.wad into your half-life\valve directory with the other wads. Start Hammer, and select tools->options->textures and edit the list for the new location. Exit Hammer.

Restart Hammer and load you map. Make a small change to the map, then save it. Hammer wont actually save the map unless you make a change to it, eventhough it looks like its saving it. Then run your compile tools.

The hl engine has a hard limit of 512x512 absolute for texture size. Read the caution from tommy's site (GREAT AREA, tommy, thanks !!) about using this size texture. Its also why a 64x1024 size texture wont work. This info is from one of the *.h file notes from the SDK source.

Check out the VERC for more information about textures and texture path limitations, and happy mapping !!

Thanks sparks! As a matter of fact i did only have 1 texture. Take a while to re-trace my steps, but putting more textures in there helped, (and i took out kami and xerents wad). I'd really like to thank you all for helping a noob out! All the people that posted here are Uber good at mapping btw.

now lets have some screenshots!!!!