Ok i've decided to release my mk5 sten model and the meshes Jed made for it into the community, in the hope someone will make a nice skin for it. Why this has come about is i sent it to polygon sometime ago now, and have not really heard anything concrete from him since. The zip includes the sten model with two static anim's, one with the clip inserted into the model and one with the clip pulled out. The meshes come in 1024x1024, that will have to be sized down to 512x512, for the finished ingame model, before or after they are coloured in, the choice is down to the skinner/skinners who ever takes the job on. If more then one person takes the job on then i will pick which skin i feel is best for it's official release. Once i have a chosen skin, i will then add the finished MK5 anims, and custom sleeves to the model, and maybe work with the skinner for any final touches that my need doing once the model is ingame, as things can sometimes look different in HLMV to what they do ingame. Then once i'm happy with it i will release the finished model back into the community, giving credit to all those involved.

What i don't want is anyone adding anim's, sleeves etc, and releasing this model into the community before it's officially released by me, thats all i ask.

If all goes well, i will do the same with other models i've got lined up ready for meshing and skinning.

So if you think your up to the job, then please give it your best shot, may the best skin win.

If no one takes the job on, well i guess thats mine and the community tuff ****........lol.

Here is a pic of the the model using my old meshes, before Jed made new one's, and cut the polycount back, with a half hacked poly skin on it. It will give you some idea how the model with the finished anim's, sleeves etc will look ingame.

Pic (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/mk5FOV_WIP.jpg)

Download (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/stenmk5_4_skinning.zip)

Thanks to anyone that takes the job on.

Well, someone better do it =P I need it to go with Jed's Paras...well, if they worked in 1.1 =P Anyway, I can't wait to see it finished :D Poly is probably too busy working on the next RO release at the moment, which is either good or bad depending on whether you play RO :rolleyes:

Yes, i'm not having a go at poly in anyway, i just wish to make that clear to everyone, as i know he is very busy, but i just feel the community have waited long enough for this model, as so many have shown intrest in it, for along time now, that i just feel i can't hold it back any longer. And as much as the community want to see it finished and using ingame so do i, as i made the model when the old forums was running, so thats how long it's been coming, to bloody long..:).

Go on BruTaLiz@tioN, i can see your surfing, take it son, take it.......LMAO...:D

u know me too well:P...downloading

lmao marzy...

Originally posted by BruTaLiz@tioN
u know me too well:P...downloading

Thanks, looking foward to seeing what you can come up with...:)..here are some ref pic's that i have collected overtime, that my be of use to you or anyone else.

Sten mk5 ref pictures (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/mk5_ref_pics.zip)

And thanks again...:).

heres what i gots already...

Thanx for the ref pics, but i found a real good one which im wroking off atm

Good start BruTaLiz@tioN, i like the look of this already..:) thats the first time i've seen a wood texture on those bits...i can't wait to see the next screeny.....:D

Release soon it looks good.

Blimey... :D

Looks like I'll be busy once the skins are done then. I know there still a lot of poly reduction left to do.

- Jed

I really like the look of Polys semi-finished texture. Did he send you what he'd done of that texture Marzy?

Originally posted by Trp. Jed
Blimey... :D

Looks like I'll be busy once the skins are done then. I know there still a lot of poly reduction left to do.

- Jed

What you wish to hack into it even more.........lol


Originally posted by Kiff
I really like the look of Polys semi-finished texture. Did he send you what he'd done of that texture Marzy?

No there taken from 2 WIP skins that was on the old dod forums, when polygon was working on LS3 sten mk3 model, which was never released.

Originally posted by MaRzY
What you wish to hack into it even more.........lol

its still pretty high poly mate. I think we need to get at least another 500 off it really otherwise we're going to need a Cray to use it.

- Jed

Nice work, looks class.

Ska

Is poly even still around?...i love his work but ive never seen him in the forums before...

Nice

Originally posted by BruTaLiz@tioN
Is poly even still around?...i love his work but ive never seen him in the forums before...

Nope, for a while now Poly has been one of the skinners over at Red Orchestra. The last time I saw him post here was when he showed off the MP-40 he had done for RO. I beleive he also did the German player models. Not completly sure what else he has done, but obviously more than just those things =P

Once this is set all we need are Jed's Para's with the Sten MKV animation and that P model, and we'll be all set :D

omg i love the wood brut. sexeh.

(first try at skinning :eek: )
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I to shal be making my first atempt at weapon skinning on this baby...

(Player skinning is easier) :p

that looks real good malarky, and canuck best of luck:)...ohkay so thats where poly went.

Oh and simon lmao at those edits:)

update...looking less and less like a super soaker

looks nice i ahve only one request when u release it release it defualt brit hands no gloves but include glove texture for ppl who like gloves..

Originally posted by BruTaLiz@tioN
update...looking less and less like a super soaker

Hey I liked my super-soaker meshes! :D

- Jed

Yes yes i loved them too, but had a dying urge to spraypaint them:D

another update

Good stuff Brute!

I assume you'll "ding" them up and add scratches, dirt and so on after?

- Jed

oh boy, can't wait for this one :D

Originally posted by Quakah
oh boy, can't wait for this one :D

Mine looks like ass compared to that one, great job brut...

ooOOOoo competition ;)

I like the wood that canuck is using, but they are both turning out very nice!

Is the trigger guard supposed to be stretched out like that?

hey can i use your sten MK5 in my All CANADIAN MOD?

Sorry i have not made a post until now, i have chest infection, and feel like crap, and not been near my PC. But it's nice to see a few in the community having a go at skinning it, there all looking good.....:D


Originally posted by =DD=Wolf Kahler
Is the trigger guard supposed to be stretched out like that?

Well the model has FOV edits, it looks fine ingame.


Ok all i'm going to go lay down some more, as i can't focus on anything at the min.... :mad:

uh yes...
here we go...
:D

a clode-up pic of the metal..


just 'cuz im bored :D

I see a pack coming on here...Hey Canuck thats a great start and is looking good so far.

rotzbua that is also great...i like the wood as its the same i used on my first ever skin:D

And get well soon MaRzY

So who's going to skin Marzy's Bren then? And the Lewis, and the...

- Jed

lets see what i can do with this.. its been a while seeing as i don't have DOD or even HL installed..

Here's some reference pics to help you guys. This is the MOH : Spearhead sten, it doesn't this good in game because this is a 3dmax render but it gives you an idea on how scratched and dirty looking it should be. Or at least how i'd like it to look :)

Side on

Yeah that looks about right Kiff from the real ones I've seen. You need quite a bit of shineyness in the area's that would of been rubbed a lot so things like the top of the mag, etc.

Also, on most REAL examples I've seen the wood is quite well polished and laquered and is a little reddish in colour.

- Jed

:)

Drip drop, Drippety drop...
Highly compressed that would account for the crappyness of the image.

Keep it going! Its great :D

looks b00000000000000000tifull.

Uh finished?
:D
all pics directly out of HLMV so no strange other program renderings..

Credits for the bullet to |brut|, i love his bullet :)

looks good rotzbua!

Hmm... I wonder what one of those would look like with light wood, and a stainless steel type metal! :) Wood such as pine in color.?? :)

That looks excellent, Great Work..

Im looking forward to using this model a lot, it's just gonna be hard picking which version to use..

keep up the good work all you guys!

It's looking very nice. I'm going to start stenning more on Brit maps when this is done.

sweetness rotzbua

Well what can i say, i'm just so pleased with the response from the members in this community in making skins for this model.:D. I feel they all should be released in the official release of this model, for all your great efforts being shown here.

So here is what i would like to propose, for those of you that send their skins to cabalnem@yahoo.co.uk along with your forum name. I will still pick one to go on the model, but also include all the other skins sent to me in it's official release, with credits.

Or on the other hand, if you want to release this model with your skin yourself, then that is fine with me, as long as it's after i make the official release of this model, thats all i ask. But please take into account that i can't make a release until i have been sent at least one good skin.

So those making skins, if you could please let me know what you think, about this i would be grateful.

And a big thanks to you all.

going off topic here, please forgive me:p

marzy, i tried to pm you, but your box is full...i was wondering if you still have that british hud knocking about..i saw it in a screenshot for your elite tommy...if so, would you mind mailing me it please? I had it for ages, but after several formats(:mad: ) lost it...

sheepydons@hotmail.com

thx in advance..

Originally posted by Warlord-Sco-
going off topic here, please forgive me:p

marzy, i tried to pm you, but your box is full...i was wondering if you still have that british hud knocking about..i saw it in a screenshot for your elite tommy...if so, would you mind mailing me it please? I had it for ages, but after several formats(:mad: ) lost it...

sheepydons@hotmail.com

thx in advance..

Here is the link to the release thread, links should still work.

http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4033

Magic Marzy, thanks for that..

I did do a search, but it didnt like Marzy's british hud, or similar in the search engine.

yhey rotzbua i love that, it looks real real good. newayz heres another update for me, its almost finished:D

i sent it marzy...


and brut..
great work... :D

:|
http://home.comcast.net/~pvt.malarkey/sten.BMP

OOOOOMG RLEASE :eek:

A shoot should I even continue...

Of course you should canuck, the more skins for this baby, the merrier!

Come on old bean, keep your chin up:P

Yeh keep it coming Canuck!:D

hey was up man hinaly some one made one how about making a p and w modle of it too?

Originally posted by Canuck
A shoot should I even continue...

Yes you should keep going...:), although only one skin will be picked to be released on the model, all other skins sent to me will be included aswell, as extra skins. I feel that this is the least i can do for all the support and efforts of those individuals that have taken the time to make a skin, and i for one, will not let your efforts go un missed, i am very grateful to you all.

14:59 November 28 2003 - Finished!:D

Was bored.. mabey ill finish it.. :\

thats a skin and a half

ooo ooo finish plz!:D

Originally posted by Russ. Conscript
Was bored.. mabey ill finish it.. :\

Well lets hope the next few days your bored, i think it's looking very good, my only constructive criticism that stands out to me, is the lighting not lining up on the barrel to that of the barrel cooler sleeve, but i think the textures contrasts look great, please finish Russ.

And thanks Pvt.Malarkey and BruTaLiz@tioN, for sending your skins, great job....:)

Im back from my little period of silence...

I'll try to get my anims on it, and release a small pack of some of my works.

rofl....lollersaur

Originally posted by Sushi
Im back from my little period of silence...

I'll try to get my anims on it, and release a small pack of some of my works.

Sounds great Sushi, and looking foward to seeing your work, but all i ask is please don't release this model and your anim's, untill after me and Jed release the official release of this model, with the custom sleeves and anim's we have put together for this model. We are still collecting skins at this moment in time, and they are coming thick and fast, so if all goes well, it should not be to long before you see an official release....:).

If you would like to start a WIP thread thats great, i've no prob's with that, but please no releases just yet.

Guys those skins are WoW :EEEEEEEEEE

You know what can be cool ? if dillinger will join the party :D
dillinger !!! duty calls :P (joking)

OMG! Russ.Conscript you better finish your skin as well!! That looks fantastic!

Dont worry Marzy, I dont prefer animating things without skin

Omg, this weekend has been so boring..

love the metal:D

Come to papa :cool:

argh, too many good skins for it XD

OMG, guys your skins own ! each and every1... damn...

Some release ! i can't stand it ^_^

OMG RUSS I LOVE THAT WOOD!

Originally posted by BruTaLiz@tioN
OMG RUSS I LOVE THAT WOOD!

:0

you do? i think it sucks :x

lol i think ill finish it.. i seriousy have nothing else to do this holdiay weekend.. im stuck a home and everyone else is gone :\

yeh russ it owns...if u think its so crappy ill take the texture off ur hands:P unless u made it urself...good job keep it up:)

Progess..

looking awesome Russ...

OMG!:D

Marzy i think it should be nice if you will pack all the skins with normal animes and also with the custom ones and every1 will get to choose :-)

or make them 2 packs...
anyway, it looks like most of the jobs were finished, any release soon ?

This is torture :( I don't know wich one to pick!

Your making a grand job of that Russ, it's looking really good...:D


Mortar the anim's are the default one's, i just hacked them to fit the Mk5, then Jed tweaked them. Although i do have a custom Idle anim i'm thinking of including. Ill make some bat files to go with the release though, so peeps can pick between normal British infantry sleeves or Para ones.

i started redoing my metal, cuz i realised it wasnt really the best :)
its not the best now, but i think ist better now :D
maybe ill release it with new metal, after marzy released his pack

but its still a WIP of the newer version, more contrast and so needed, and the mag has to be done new :)

Originally posted by rotzbua
i started redoing my metal, cuz i realised it wasnt really the best :)
its not the best now, but i think ist better now :D
maybe ill release it with new metal, after marzy released his pack

but its still a WIP of the newer version, more contrast and so needed, and the mag has to be done new :)


Looks much better in my opinion!

Good work!

I think someone needs to make their Brit Para models compatible for 1.1

Looking your way Jed.......................:D :D

I'm just waiting for the compiler like everyone else... :rolleyes:

And hopefully if I get the source and can do the ones with animated faces too.

- Jed

done?

dunno..
i think its finished


again...

nice extremely great model

one close up..
now im quiet..
i swear :)

Nice!

Originally posted by MaRzY
Your making a grand job of that Russ, it's looking really good...:D


Totaly ;-]

Originally posted by MaRzY
Mortar the anim's are the default one's, i just hacked them to fit the Mk5, then Jed tweaked them. Although i do have a custom Idle anim i'm thinking of including. Ill make some bat files to go with the release though, so peeps can pick between normal British infantry sleeves or Para ones.

Cool, thanks ;]

looks real nice :D good job

Some custom sounds would go great with this pack. :)

All these are looking great! But one thing: can you align the texture on the front site? thanks!

I hope you put the old hand gripping magazine anims as the default ones suck.

Originally posted by swedish
Some custom sounds would go great with this pack. :)

Yes some custom sounds would be nice, i might take a look into finding some, or does anyone know of any good sten sounds.

Originally posted by Marksman
All these are looking great! But one thing: can you align the texture on the front site? thanks!

Thanks for pointing that out, i hadn't spotted it, you old eagle eyed Marksman you....:D, ill make sure it's sorted for the final release.

Originally posted by Ginger Lord
I hope you put the old hand gripping magazine anims as the default ones suck.

Well with it being a Mk5, with a grip on the front, it would look a little odd, if it was a Mk2 it would look ok.

Marzy please don't wait for me to send you mine...

I don't have the time I thought I had...I might finish it eventually, but not soon...

Yeah no prob's Canuck , i've 3 skins upto now, ill give peeps a little longer though, just incase anymore peeps are intending on sending me their skins.

I've been working hard on making a lower poly version, for the lower end users, i've cut it back around another 600 polys, using transparent tricks, and removing unseen polys, using default hands etc. So it's looking like there will be 2 releases a med poly and hi poly versions.

The German and para sleeves are finished, just need to finish the normal infantry sleeve. The anim's are finished, and i just need to sort out some bat files, so peeps can change which sleeves they want, and idle anim to play. So it should not be long before i'm ready to release...:).

Russ, have you anymore news on that skin you are making.

Originally posted by rotzbua
one close up..
now im quiet..
i swear :)

Looks really yummy.

Good work.

A little preview pic of the custom sleeve models i've got lined up for the sten, you will be able to choose Brit para or infantry. I've modeled the button on the Brit infantry sleeve, which helps alot to improve to overall look.

Sleeve models preview pic (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/stensleeves.jpg)

will there also be normal sleeves?

Originally posted by LOTP
will there also be normal sleeves?

you can choose not to add these I think, but I'd still go with these beauties :D

Nice sleeves, but... RELEASE!

Originally posted by swedish
Nice sleeves, but... RELEASE!
Marzy... Please open a new thread and upload the pack ;-(
It's been a while :-(

Thanks.

Please don't be shouting release at me, it's not helping, I said i would release when i'm happy with the model.

Now if you would like to help me, then take a look at this pic, and tell me which skin you like best.

Skin pics (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/stenskins.jpg)

I like the last one the most

i love the mixed version :D

Yeah the mixed one looks very nice.

Though i think Russ should finish his....!

mixed = win

gimme gimme gimme gimme








sorry forgot u said dont ask for it :D

yeh definately mixed:)

Last one looks perfect compared to every real sten I've seen. The middle one doesnt have enought contrast for polished, oiled metal and the "noise" in the top one is way to much, it makes the metal look way to "impure". Though you'll get the occasional hi-spot in metal they wouldnt stand out that much.

- Jed

NP marzy, take your time :-|

I think the last one is indeed the best one, also as one said russ skin should own...

The last one is a work i call "Lego" work, Like every model i have, i take custom animes, textures, recolor them, combine new sleeves, hi res. stuff and i just take a model and build my version to it, it's always goes best :-)

Btw Love the new sleeves :-)

Marzy b4 you release let me get you a mirror, cause your bandwidth is gonne get sucked with this release...

yah, the last one owns

i can host it on my page too if ya want.. :)

Great so we are all agreed the mix skin looks the best, ill use that one for the release then.

Yes mirrors and hosts would be welcome when i release this model, that would be great, and thanks.


Right i've just got to get hold of Jed and sort out some final details for the release, so all being well not too long now....:).

great, just send me the file when you release it...


i think u still got my mail from my skin that i sent u

I'm here. Sorry I was asleep on the sofa.

Marz, mail me, my ICQ's gone for a Burton.

- Jed

No intentions to anger anyone here, but is this still in the making?

It just went quiet all of a sudden, and things were sounding very promising indeed.

Sorry for displaying my impatience for you to see, but as you know MaRzY I've been waiting for this for ages and I'd very much like to stop drewling over this, 'cause my keyboard is starting to take some damage :)


thanks.

No i've not forgot about the sten, it's more or less done. I've sent the latest version for Jed to look over, and to get his opinion on weather or not we should change anything before it's released.

So i am truly hoping it will not be long now.

This thread has been real over whelming with responses and anticipation, MaRzY u truly are the king of all kings:D

its been said before but since this is the dod forums and we like beating old things (horses, etc) i will just go ahead and



GIMME GIMME GIMME....sten is the only non-custom model right now cuz i havent found a good one and this is the one....GIMME GIMME GIMME

Well damn. Thats a bloody nice skin and sleeve!

Cheers :)

i just noticed something...this is on the release page, but theirs no release :rolleyes:


man im tired....







oh and marzy....GIMME :D

yes, he released the model

Originally posted by Quakah
yes, he released the model
Where? :confused:

Originally posted by MaRzY
Ok i've decided to release my mk5 sten model and the meshes Jed made for it into the community, in the hope someone will make a nice skin for it. Why this has come about is i sent it to polygon sometime ago now, and have not really heard anything concrete from him since. The zip includes the sten model with two static anim's, one with the clip inserted into the model and one with the clip pulled out. The meshes come in 1024x1024, that will have to be sized down to 512x512, for the finished ingame model, before or after they are coloured in, the choice is down to the skinner/skinners who ever takes the job on. If more then one person takes the job on then i will pick which skin i feel is best for it's official release. Once i have a chosen skin, i will then add the finished MK5 anims, and custom sleeves to the model, and maybe work with the skinner for any final touches that my need doing once the model is ingame, as things can sometimes look different in HLMV to what they do ingame. Then once i'm happy with it i will release the finished model back into the community, giving credit to all those involved.

What i don't want is anyone adding anim's, sleeves etc, and releasing this model into the community before it's officially released by me, thats all i ask.

If all goes well, i will do the same with other models i've got lined up ready for meshing and skinning.

So if you think your up to the job, then please give it your best shot, may the best skin win.

If no one takes the job on, well i guess thats mine and the community tuff ****........lol.

Here is a pic of the the model using my old meshes, before Jed made new one's, and cut the polycount back, with a half hacked poly skin on it. It will give you some idea how the model with the finished anim's, sleeves etc will look ingame.

Pic (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/mk5FOV_WIP.jpg)

Download (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/stenmk5_4_skinning.zip)

Thanks to anyone that takes the job on.

first post :rolleyes:

i dont know if u know or not quakah but that model aint done...theirs pics of the done one a few pages back but its not out yet....i want it





hey marzy...if ur still readin this thread....GIMME

the model is done, the meshes are done, now just the animations and the skins ... model is done

the package as a whole is not done and released to the public quakah....when its ready, he'll release, and ill use

Originally posted by NuTSymPToM
the package as a whole is not done and released to the public quakah....when its ready, he'll release, and ill use

yeah, i know, but I and you said the model, not the package -> diference!

Sorry about the delay, as i said in an earlier post, i have sent it to Jed to look over, but i've not heard anything back from him, and that was 6 days ago, i just hope he's ok.

If i don't hear from him very soon, ill just release it, without getting the go ahead from quality control and the final tweaks department.....:D

I remember he was sick the other day, is he ok ?

anyway... he is really the master but if he is not here... nothing we can do about it.

dammit jed....if i didnt love your brit airborne models id be very inconvenienced by not having this model

bump....


i go home from school tomorrow and as such will be dod-less for the next few weeks (tears in eyes thinking of this)....this model better be here when i get back or so help me god i just might wait a little bit longer then post again saying something along the lines of "hey marzy.....GIMME"

think of this as 1.1......
























very soon:p but in this case, it will probably be worth the wait

Think of it like 1.1C. VERY soon. ;)

maybe not that soon:p ;) or is it? :confused:

Ok i've spoken with Jed and he's not to well, so the minor edits we where going to make to the model have been put on hold. But these changes are mainly skin related, so i've decided to release it as it is, and probably add an updated version when the compiler comes out to go with Jed's para models, which wil also include the custom para sleeve. So ill sort a release sometime over this weekend, so i hope thats soon enough...:).

That bloody tommy has be destracting me and still is, i must start thinking STEN STEN STEN ....RELEASE RELEASE RELEASE.....LOL...wait but i love my tommy....NO (slaps myself) STEN STEN (slaps myself again) STEN.....RELEASE RELEASE...:D

no p-p-p-ara sleeve?:( oh well STEN STEN STEN!:D

lol i just looked at the picture again, i think the sleeve is just as anticipated as the sten itself:D

please release the sleeve texture as well... pretty pretty please

texture? minus well release the model too:p

Originally posted by waffle-SS
as well...

Originally posted by MaRzY
Ok i've spoken with Jed and he's not to well, so the minor edits we where going to make to the model have been put on hold.

What's up with jed ? :-[
Is it something serious ?

Originally posted by Pvt.Malarkey
no p-p-p-ara sleeve?:( oh well STEN STEN STEN!:D

lol i just looked at the picture again, i think the sleeve is just as anticipated as the sten itself:D

Totaly ;-]

dumdidum...



waiting :D

:D