Something just hit me. dod_thunder isnt in 1.0. Why wasnt it included it was one of the best and funnest maps they had in 3.1.

replaced by dod_donner.

ill replace you!!

no i love thunder, someone should update it to 1.0, it would be just toooooo amazing if they did..... id host it :)

Haven't been around long, have you?

xerent started upgrading Thunder for 1.0. But he kept working at it and working at it and working at it. After a while, he took a step back and said, "hey, this isn't Thunder anymore". So he renamed it Donner. Which is German for 'thunder' apparently. Essentially it is the same map, if you look around you'll see many of the same elements of Thunder, but there are more routes now and it is visually vastly superior.

Donner is easily one of my favorite 1.0 maps, just as Thunder was easily one of my favorite 3.1 maps. My only disappointment in the map is the bright sky. Somehow it just doesn't work well with the rain.

i ride the short buss.

no im not new to the forums, i spose i just never saw that xerent was going to redo it, my fault i spose

btw your avatar is the best i have ever seen, tool is the best band ever

Ah I gotcha, no worries

Yeah Tool is easily one of my favorite bands of all time :) Right up there among the Pumpkins, Radiohead, and the Deftones.

I believe he redid thunder once, and replaced all the textures, but he inverted the entire map, and once when we were playing I think he just came up with the idea to switch spawns for the teams aswell, that's why it might not look like thunder when you first play it, everything is so different, but still so similar :)

dod_donner = dod_thunder in 1.0 form with the sun out. word.

Hey is the communist penguin still in it?

But couldn't we just upgrade thunder to v1.0? Maybe make it a bright shiny map?

They really aren't that similar. I hardly noticed the similarity.

they each have rain.

Donner is my favorite 1.0 map. It's just so cool, and it's pretty well-balanced. I seem to get a lot of buttsmack kills in that map too.

DoD_Donner makes dod feel like moh:aa in many ways but it is still on of the best maps

I remember something about that a remake of thunder was being made and it still looked like thunder , and it was called thunder2 . But the computer of the mapper had a big bad crash and he had to redo all again and that's where dod_donner comes.

I like really a lot dod_donner , but I think it should be a bit more darker , not like thunder but still.

Originally posted by chuwawa
But couldn't we just upgrade thunder to v1.0? Maybe make it a bright shiny map?

They really aren't that similar. I hardly noticed the similarity.
I noticed that just about everything in Donner is basically thunder but spiffier and better, even the Green is cooler(with the bunker and all that barbed wire). My guess is, the battle startedw out as a nighttime battle with tank support. But the tanks were ambushed and were used as a roadblock, and the cutoff platoon had to hold out in the town until the daytime and drive the Germans out.