Sneak Peak: Heutau2
travis
08-25-2003, 06:28 PM
okay guys as most of you are probably unaware im remapping heutau, im in the early stages now and should expect a release in about a month. heres some screenies for your viewing pleasure just keep in mind i know there are a few issues and the textures arent final, also the lighting isnt bright enough :)
im having trouble with my gfx card so it dont look to pleasing.
http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/heutau21.jpg
http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/heutau22.jpg
http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/heutau23.jpg
:D
Howitzer
08-25-2003, 06:53 PM
Please tell me you atleast made/tried to get in contact with the original author. Even if dod_heutau is valve property(thus can be modified ala cs_assault) I'd still contact the author to see if use of the name heutau2 is acceptable...just name the map dod_heutau_remix or something. Otherwise some people will be pissed...
travis
08-25-2003, 07:28 PM
isnt the original mapper in the army now?
Spoonman
08-25-2003, 07:48 PM
gg random you fool
Plato
08-25-2003, 08:44 PM
If I had made heautau i'd be insulted.
Actaully, i didn't make heautau...and i'm still insulted.
-Plato
travis
08-25-2003, 08:56 PM
terrific! just what i was after.
Cheeto
08-25-2003, 09:50 PM
You guys realise you don't know whether or not he did contact the author, you're just assuming he didn't even bother? Nice way to be thick.
Are you just copying the structure or are you going to tweak it any?
[R5]Rainbow_Phive
08-25-2003, 10:54 PM
The building in the center of pic 23 looks like crap.....I don't know if I've ever seen a building from WW2 that looked like that....( could just be me )
The original looks a lot better :/
Had me excited for a minute there. I thought a legitimate Heutau 2 was being made.
[R5]Rainbow_Phive
08-26-2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Kiff
The original looks a lot better :/
Anything looks better than the original.
Whiskas
08-26-2003, 12:49 AM
I contacted the author of heutau a few months ago to ask him if he could convert heutau to 1.0, or if I oculd make a remake of it. And turns out:
1) He is out of the army and is active
2) He doesnt want ppl remaking it because hes working on a map with a similar playing style
travis
08-26-2003, 01:24 AM
well so am i! what a coincidence anyways im obvoisly going to have to change the name - everything else stays :)
hmpf, i would like to say you that:
Heutau (the orginal) will be back for 1.0 soon. Itīs worth a try to recreate it but i know that all people will only play the orginal then!!!
FuzzDad
08-26-2003, 08:32 AM
I'm checking w/Sector...he told me the other day that someone was working on H2...I'm just not sure who that someone was. He also showed me a new map he's been working on and it has great potential...so it looks like Sectors back for a while.
Regardless...there's nothing written in concrete about decompiling a map and making your own remake...it might not be an altogether original or bright idea (you guys will flame him to death...lol) but decompiling is an acceptable form of knowledge gathering...perhaps actually publishing a remade dod map is in bad taste...but it's not anything to get flamed up about.
Speaking of rmf's...I'll check w/Tim but I want to release both my glider and flugplatz rmf's to you guys here after 1.1 drops...not only is there a ton of entity work in both to check out but I'll bet some of you can come up with better solutions to some of the problems I encountered...I tend to work entities like big slabs of concrete...I pile on entity after entity to get the desired result when I'm sure a more elegant solution could be had.
Howitzer
08-26-2003, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by Cheeto
You guys realise you don't know whether or not he did contact the author, you're just assuming he didn't even bother? Nice way to be thick.
Notice how I wanted to know if he made contact with Sector in the first place...
Anyway Random, good luck with your map!
Ginger Lord
08-26-2003, 11:35 AM
Your graphics card has nothing to do with it not looking "pleasing"
1) Blue diffusion = the sucks
2) Building dont look right
3) 3.1 Heutau > This.
FuzzDad
08-26-2003, 11:56 AM
The official Heutau is being updated to DoD 1.X standards (Sector has a friend doing the bulk of the work). The Heutau2 described here is not that map.
Sector is also working on a new map (I ran around in a early version of it yesterday) and I think it's going to be really good.
Since Waldo has said he's interested in returning some of the "Classic" maps to the official list of maps I'm sure Sector will re-submit the updated Heutau as a candidate.
Mexikilla
08-26-2003, 12:11 PM
Yeah! I loved heutau! Could we get one itsy bitsy little screenshot of the updated heutau! Please:D
All right enough of my begging, sounds great that Waldo wants to return some of the older maps back to official maplist. Hmmm and I can't wait to see some pics of Sectors new map.
Thanks for letting us know FuzzDad
FuzzDad is right, Heutau will come back , but all Entitys have to be rebuilt,so it takes itīs time ;)!
Draft Dodger
08-26-2003, 01:51 PM
Yay!! Heuteau will be back!! :D :D *celebrates wildly*
travis
08-26-2003, 09:58 PM
okay guys its obvious there is a discrepancy here so im changing the name and making a couple of changes in the layout so as not to stand on any toes. to be honest i had no knowledge that heutau was being remade.
travis
08-26-2003, 10:00 PM
oh and im not de-compiling and making changes i pretty much set out to copy the layout and do most things different.
That's F'ing awesome news Fuzzdad!!
FuzzDad
08-27-2003, 07:41 AM
Well...we've talked about releasing map-packs for ages...I really do hope that occurs either with 1.2 or between 1.2 and DoD2 but as usual there is no promise that it will...just a promise that some folks on the team are considering it.
My guess is you'll see the new Heutau as a custom map first. I always recommend releasing maps as custom maps even if you know you have a good shot at being "official"...it guarentee's two things...you get all the bugs worked out and you find out if it's any good...people vote by playing/not playing your map. Some might think that ruins any suprise but I'd rather have a solid map that's been tested than a "It could be good" map that has not been tested.
You can bet that whatever I work on next I'll release it first as a custom. I think I'll have my next one in a few months...been putzing around w/another industrial park map...kinda a remake of my old factory map except this time not as confusing.
We hope so FD, because Flugplatz isnīt more a custom map, so gogogo :)
monte
08-27-2003, 08:39 PM
So he decompiled parts of hetau and added them to his map is that what he did? or
Originally posted by RaNd0M
oh and im not de-compiling and making changes i pretty much set out to copy the layout and do most things different.
:rolleyes: this is for monte's comment
Capt Winter
08-28-2003, 06:20 PM
Fuzzdad have a question for u or anyone else who knows the answer will waldo be asking or making a post for what maps people want back from older dod versions, i know i have a few maps id like to see brought back.
Whiskas
08-29-2003, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by FuzzDad
I want to release both my glider and flugplatz rmf's to you guys here after 1.1 drops
that would be so awesome, entities always confuse me
FuzzDad
08-29-2003, 11:18 AM
Actually...they confuse me too...sometimes I work out situations by stringing a bunch of entities along to get the desired result although there's probably an easier way to do it. For instance...I just learned how to use the master setting on entities in the last few weeks and used the "changetarget" entity for the first time a few days ago...I think you'd be shocked at what I don't know about hammer and the fgd. I read some of the posts here and some of you guys seem to really understand the specifics about mapping...the technical side of it...I think I have a grasp on the basics...but some things still elude me:
1) Why Coca Cola thought "New Coke" was a good idea
2) Hanging Chad
3) Dan Quayle
4) Why I still like playing "Frogger"
Sry for the thread hijack...
haircut
08-31-2003, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Whiskas
that would be so awesome, entities always confuse me
FuzzDad maps like ... errrrr ... only FuzzDad can :confused:
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