lets make a modern weapons pack


infantrysurviva
07-23-2003, 05:33 PM
i got the idea of making a bunch of modern weapon models to replace the ww2 weapons. i already started an M14 to replace the bar. i got most of the other weapons planned out:

U.S.
colt .45 just needs to look more modern
garand=???
carbine=ruger mini-14
thompson=ingram mac10
m3=???
bar=M14
springfield=remington m700
browning .30=m60

Germany
luger=walther p1a1
k43=hk msg90a1
k98=mauser sr93
mp40=hk mp5k-pdw
mp44=hk g41
fg42=g3sg1
mg42=mg3a1
mg34=hk21

Great Britain
webly=???
sten=sterling
enfield=l96a1
bren=l86a1

Ikujinonai
07-23-2003, 05:50 PM
Just for fun, I converted this from CS one day because I was bored. :\ It just uses the default Carbine anims though.

07-23-2003, 06:11 PM
how about no..

if we wanted modern weapons we'd play CS

rotzbua
07-23-2003, 06:16 PM
what 'bout using the M14 as Garand and the M16A1 (20rounds mag) as BAR, just cause the M14 looks lot like the garand, but a mac10 as thompson :rolleyes:

Kameradschaft
07-23-2003, 06:43 PM
one word...WHY? :confused:

07-23-2003, 06:48 PM
because he likes modern weapons, but dod's gameplay.

07-23-2003, 06:49 PM
The mg34 is more accurate an m60 than the .30cal.... Because the model for the m60 was taken from the mg34. They are the same gun pretty much.

07-23-2003, 06:51 PM
i thought the m60 was taken from the mg42 design?

d3fmaybe
07-23-2003, 07:08 PM
MG42 = cheaper MG34 :x

Plastic Fantastic Lover
07-23-2003, 07:17 PM
I would use this.

I like to completely re-do my DoD about once every fortnight, and a modern phase would kick ass.

But weapon packs take a LONG TIME to make (Russian pack :p )

Unless someone just converted over from CS models, which would just require some re-animations.

speedealer
07-23-2003, 07:38 PM
This isn't a bad idea at all. Think of it as World War Two without the help of the Soviets... the war dragged out to the point when these weapons were developed. Mike is correct; I'd rather play DoD than CS for several reasons, one being DoD's better gameplay. A few CS or FA conversions wouldn't be too difficult since most of those weapons mentioned are available in some form or another in those games. Perhaps some more modern player reskins would be in order... Vietnam-style OD and maybe some Tigerstripe for the Americans, Flecktarn and that brownish OD for zee Germans, and that disruptive pattern for the Brits. If nobody wants to do those reskins, I could pull some half-assed recolor of the defaults that probably wouldn't look too bad. PM me if anyone is serious about this project.

Mr.T
07-23-2003, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Kämerädschäft
one word...WHY? :confused:

Two words...why not?

There is no rule that you have to use WWII era weaponary only. I remember this happened when someone wanted an M-60 made, people were up in arms in an instant.

I'm sure he is not the only one who would like to see this done, and is this not the right place to ask?

;)

We've all seen the awsome work that comes out of this community. So why not expand into modern day weapons?

I'm all for it.

Bishop
07-23-2003, 07:51 PM
No.

Kameradschaft
07-23-2003, 07:58 PM
Mr.T, I am not 'up in arms'. I am also no realism Nazi (to coin a forum phrase;) ) and I tolerate most ideas as long as they seem reasonable. I just don't see the point in a modern day weapons pack. There are many other mods that would serve his purpose better, and why convert a mod that specifically ment to take place in the WW2 era?

rotzbua
07-23-2003, 08:23 PM
i have to say i wouldnt use it, cuz i love the dpd ww2 atmosphere, but no bad idea for those who love modern weapons (i dont, only modern weapon i like is Steyr AUG (Sturmgewehr 77))

Devin Kryss
07-23-2003, 08:43 PM
You guys against dont even have a reason for posting here.

He didnt ask anybody what they thought of this idea, he wanted it done.

And Kämerädschäft, what better mods are there that need this? Most other mods already use modern era weapons. Are you suggesting he go convert models to replace the same guns everyones already seen?

This is a great idea. And a great mod for it. Say some people just dont dig the whole ww2 thing, we give them modern weapons, and it would seem like a different game. Dod has perfect gameplay unlike any other mod, unique recoil system, and less cheaters than CS. So, why not turn DoD into a modern day battle. Why suggest he go play CS or TFC, if he wanted gamepaly like that, he'd be ***king playing it now, instead of here asking for help.

I for one love this idea, and once I get my current projects over with, and some more time, im going to make a modern day pack. I've already converted a nice M16 to my BAR, it was kinda fun playing with it ingame, it was kinda fun.

07-23-2003, 08:51 PM
Way to go Devin. I'd like to see a usp for the colt. And an Ak47 for the Stg44.

infantrysurviva
07-23-2003, 09:46 PM
i dont even care if any of these model replacements get finished. i just thought it would be a cool idea for people that want a different kind of scheme in customizing their DOD.

Mr.T
07-23-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Kämerädschäft
Mr.T, I am not 'up in arms'. I am also no realism Nazi (to coin a forum phrase;) ) and I tolerate most ideas as long as they seem reasonable. I just don't see the point in a modern day weapons pack. There are many other mods that would serve his purpose better, and why convert a mod that specifically ment to take place in the WW2 era?


No no, I was not accusing you.

I can see your reasoning behind it.

Each to his own I guess.

Cheeto
07-23-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Devilmorfose
how about no..

if we wanted modern weapons we'd play CS Simple rule: don't like it, don't download it. Meaning anyone here can make whatever the hell they want, and you can't say **** about it if you don't like it because you're not forced to play it. CS obviously doesn't have the gameplay of DoD, nor does it have the quality of players and servers, so by simple deduction, if they wanted this they COULDN'T play CS. So just calm down and let him do what he wants.

Grain
07-23-2003, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by infantrysurviva
springfield=remington m700
Why not make it into the M24.

Sturmtruppe
07-23-2003, 11:22 PM
i think it would be bad ass! but i think you should do a vietnam weapons pack.. M16= thompson, grease gun could stay.. stg44= AK47, Mp44= chicom k50

R3aveR
07-23-2003, 11:37 PM
your prayers have been answered

I got an AK, M-16A1, Owen Gun, M-60 MG, Rocket launcher, RPG i got it all i jsut need someone to chuck the dod sleves and hands on them.

infantrysurviva
07-23-2003, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Grain
Why not make it into the M24.

i was using my large gun book as a reference for guns i couldnt think of. the m24 wasnt in there so i chose the m700, but the m24 would be just fine.


and for those of you who didnt notice the pattern in my choice of weapons they are all weapons that were made in the same country as that team. that is why i chose a mac10 for the thompson or a g41 for the mp44.

-=GENO=-
07-23-2003, 11:56 PM
I say go ahead and make it. I wont DL it coz im a "realism nazi"
just my 2 cents.

Oh and everytime I read a post by Mr.T I cant help but read it how the real Mr.T would say it. lol

TheMirage
07-24-2003, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Devilmorfose
how about no..

if we wanted modern weapons we'd play CS

If you do not support the dude then do not reply!!!!!! Godamn Flamers come in and mess up every single "modern" Thread.

Get the Hoses! This is a Five alarm Fire here!!!

As life goes, don't take what you don't want. Simple as that. Plus, Don't ***** about what YOU don't aprove of, because I am starting to get a headache from it all.


As for this modern day pack. I would love to see one because no one else has been sucessful in making one. I would be interested in a realistic 2 hits and you drop! instead of CS where 12 hits from a Glock 9mm gives the poor guy a bloody nose.

Warlord-Sco-
07-24-2003, 05:32 AM
I'd use it definetly...my dod needs something to freshen it up...

can i have that m-16 please??:) looks great!

sheepydons@hotmail.com

thx very much in advance..and best of luck with the pack

Ska Wars
07-24-2003, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by Sturmtruppe
i think it would be bad ass! but i think you should do a vietnam weapons pack.. M16= thompson, grease gun could stay.. stg44= AK47, Mp44= chicom k50

"Charlie in the wire!" "Even the jungle wanted him dead..." "WTF's a click?" Change victory sounds to the Doors or Iggy and the Stooges!

Please do a vietnam pack, that would kick some much arse! You could have the brits as Aussie's or mabye the french (different time frame i know but hey, they still fought there too)

Ska

mog
07-24-2003, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by Devilmorfose
how about no..

if we wanted modern weapons we'd play CS

In many peoples opinion DoD is enough of a deathmatch game that modern weapons isn't that big a step. I suspect a lot of people would try a pack like this.

Kraut-Killer
07-24-2003, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by Bishop
No.

#2

they are a lot of good mods with modern weapons (CS [yes it is a good mod], Firearms, The Specialists,...).

07-24-2003, 07:56 AM
i think this is a nice idea, its likes combining CS and dod, recoil, and sheet.

maRtin
07-24-2003, 09:40 AM
I don't have a problem with other people getting whatever skins/models/textures they want - as long as they don't get h4xy ones we'll all be fin. So what is anyone's problem with other people getting modern-day weps?

Hell, if does some skins to turn the MG42 into a gattling gun I'd be all up for it.

I'd say go ahead and enjoy. I'll not be d/ling them myself, but go ahead and knock yerself out.

Vandal
07-24-2003, 09:43 AM
<3 smart people

/<3 dumb people.


Good ideas, keep it up! :D

Russ. Conscript
07-24-2003, 10:37 AM
its a good idea, alot of the weapons here could provide as perfect palceholders for some weapons. mabey even doubles of weapons for some that can be set to smei-auto and full auto.

part of the reason i think it would be cool to modernize dod is because of its unmached game-play that it has and tighly knit coding.

i personally would like to see a vietnam pack come out for dod. seeing how the mod is war based..

one thing though, lets not let this die, all of the other threads were crashed and burned because of all of the WW2 era die hard fans who would say anything to keep modern weapons out of DOD. this is MSA people, this where your custom comes from. nobody said you had to like it or use it.. thats why every gun comes with at least 3 replacements for it. but i think change is good everyonce in a while, no matter how extreme it may be. and who knows you may actually have alot of fun with it.

Cheeseburger
07-24-2003, 02:39 PM
This, my people, has to be one of the best ideas I have ever seen on these forums. I wish I could be apart, but I have no experience in skinning or whatever, but I think a modern warfare instead of Vietnam would be better because I wanna see funky technological weapons and stuff. 'Nam had some pretty crappy weapons to be honest (/me dreams of Flamethrower in DoD) hahahahahahahaha o_O

Please keep this going

infantrysurviva
07-24-2003, 02:45 PM
i think im gonna give up on my m14. when i add extra bones to the model for the bipod it screws up my current animations and i dont want to make them from scratch. so if anyone wants what i did here it is.

in its current state it doesnt work with any of the guns in game.

http://www.angelfire.com/anime/whitebase/v_m14.zip

if i do any more guns i think it will be a german HK rifle or smg

Sturmtruppe
07-24-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by R3aveR
your prayers have been answered

I got an AK, M-16A1, Owen Gun, M-60 MG, Rocket launcher, RPG i got it all i jsut need someone to chuck the dod sleves and hands on them.

i hope they're all in the POV method, like the default models

Dances w Wolves
07-24-2003, 04:16 PM
could you do a really hi poly, hi res MP5 A10? solid stock, 1 mag, no extras, un-silenced for tommy please? :D

07-24-2003, 04:59 PM
great idea, i remember all the threads like this that crashed. id like to see it be done, it would def give me a new feeling for dod. hell, i remember back in 1.3 i took the mp5 from cs and put it as the tommy, cs anims and all, and i had a blast.

Plastic Fantastic Lover
07-24-2003, 05:19 PM
I would DEFINITELY USE THIS.

The thing is, I LOVE modern warfare and weapons and uniforms, and LOVE DoD's combat system (recoil and respawns). This would make for an extremely fierce modern-day battle that takes place in ruined cities. Like WWIII....a titanic struggle using modern weapons.

Vietnam pack would be cool also, but wouldn't fit maps.

07-24-2003, 06:30 PM
i remember in 1.3 the threads that were flammed and bombarded by the realism freaks.

I say release although i doubt many people will download because this is a world war 2 game after all and people like the feeling of being in a world war 2 scenario, that's why i play day of de feet. Because ww2 kix arse.

07-24-2003, 08:49 PM
I can help with this. I wanted something like this back in 3.1, i now have the knowledge i need to do it myself. :D

I'll start gathering weapons and decide whats gonna replace what. I'll start a new thread when I get a list of what i wanna use.

07-24-2003, 10:54 PM
I draw my line at about 1955-ish for weapons to put into Day of Defeat, but whatever floats your boat, hopefully water.

Sturmtruppe
07-25-2003, 12:15 AM
someone make an M16A1 with 30 round magazine for the Thompson

Bishop
07-25-2003, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Hallock
I draw my line at about 1955-ish for weapons to put into Day of Defeat, but whatever floats your boat, hopefully water.

Or sinks it.

Toejam Football
07-25-2003, 12:46 AM
How about adding Korean war weapons... oh nm.. :confused:

Mr.T
07-25-2003, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by Toejam Football
How about adding Korean war weapons... oh nm.. :confused:

heh

:o

Cheeseburger
07-25-2003, 03:07 AM
DaveMachine, isn't the point of this post to follow up Infantrysurviva's ideas, with ideas from the public? instead of starting a whole new thread with this guys idea? This is a team effort dude.

In my opinion, I don't think that Vietnam weapons would suit the maps.

I can help with sounds, because I'm an absolute sound editing freak :D

DON'T let this thread die

BTW: Badhawk, I have a script almost ready for you mate :D Chat soon

TheNomad
07-25-2003, 09:06 AM
i wouldnt use them, but the idea is good for ppl who want it.

and for the guy who likes the steyr aug, = FG42 with scope :)

Rob
07-25-2003, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Devin Kryss
This is a great idea. And a great mod for it. Say some people just dont dig the whole ww2 thing, we give them modern weapons, and it would seem like a different game. Dod has perfect gameplay unlike any other mod, unique recoil system, and less cheaters than CS. So, why not turn DoD into a modern day battle.


You raise some really interesting ideas here.... Hell we could do pretty much whatever we want with this. Americans vs. Iraqis, Afghanis, etc....we could even make up scenarios.... France goes to war with Indonesia!

Well, maybe that last one wasn't so good, but you get the idea.

07-25-2003, 11:39 AM
Good idea!!
Im also working on new playermodels..
It will look great with the new weapons. :rolleyes:

07-25-2003, 12:07 PM
Err....thats just a picture of CS, not DoD.

07-25-2003, 01:15 PM
I guess you don't get it.

Ska Wars
07-25-2003, 01:32 PM
Well that joke went down like a lead ballon.

Ska

Cheeseburger
07-25-2003, 03:21 PM
Hahaha. Muppets.

BoeCash
07-25-2003, 03:45 PM
This is the kind of audiance that you get when you release a game to the public that states: "From the makers of Counter-Strike"


:rolleyes: sigh....

maRtin
07-25-2003, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Rob
...
France goes to war with Indonesia!

Well, maybe that last one wasn't so good, but you get the idea.

Yeah because Indonesia would win too easily.

/me hides. :D

Bashh
07-25-2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by BoeCash
This is the kind of audiance that you get when you release a game to the public that states: "From the makers of Counter-Strike"


:rolleyes: sigh....
people should just know its supposed to have a war feel... but modern weapons i dont think would change that feel a whole lot. if the correct guns were chosen.

07-25-2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by Hitman4Life
Err....thats just a picture of CS, not DoD.

Holy hell that joke just whizzed over you.

Originally posted by maRtin
Yeah because Indonesia would win too easily.

/me hides. :D

Leave the thread before I strangle you...

Ska Wars
07-25-2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by maRtin
Yeah because Indonesia would win too easily.

Here's an idea, how about next time your hear the word France you don't try and come up with another lame ass 'surrender' or 'crap army' joke, cos believe it or not they're neither original or funny.

Failing that we'll just let Hallock lose on you lol

Ska

Cheeto
07-25-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Ska_Wars
Failing that we'll just let Hallock lose on you lol Or my sig kitty...

TheNomad
07-28-2003, 06:34 AM
ok, enough of the talking, is any one gonna make these models and release them??

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