An Alternative to helmets blown off


Ska Wars
07-10-2003, 03:07 PM
How do,

I first got this idea when Gabagoo suggested something for my US pack.

i was thinking, several player packs at the moment have different head gear for each player (e.g Devs trenchcoats, Triggers tankers, gebrigsjager etc) and there for you can't have the helmets be blown off the models. This isn't really that big a problem but it means that if they die by headshot a helmet model will appear next to them despite the fact they are still wearing it. This isn't really too much of a problem as you can always jus rename and copy the null file.

Anyway, what i was thinking was rather than having a helmet model fall to the ground, why not have a set of dog tags? This could easily be modelled for each army and could be quite effective as each army has a different style of tag (e.g. Us - tags, Axis - large round tags etc)

If people like this idea I'll have ago at making some and probally release with my US pack.

So, what do you think? worth a try?

Ska

Genie
07-10-2003, 03:10 PM
That's a very cool sounding idea but dog tags are kinda small, dont really see them as much as you would a helmet. But go ahead I'm sure I can be proved wrong. :)

07-10-2003, 03:34 PM
how bout a canteen? or a pistol? something falls off them.

Lorda Mercy
07-10-2003, 03:35 PM
canteen?
http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10622&highlight=canteen

Ska Wars
07-10-2003, 03:38 PM
Lets jus stick to dog tags for now lol

Ska

Kameradschaft
07-10-2003, 03:47 PM
I think it would look rather strange to see dog tags flying off of the player models, although It might be cool.

07-10-2003, 03:57 PM
Um...let's thing about those. Do realize how hard it would be for dog tags to just "fly" off?

Ska Wars
07-10-2003, 04:06 PM
Right.

@ Genie, yeah they would be pretty small but this is only supposed to be a little extra to the game, not a main attraction or owt lol

@ Kameradschaft. They will not 'fly off' they will appear on the ground the same as the helmets normally would.

@ Vecdran. A piece of shrapnel from a nade could quite easily severe the chain around the tag and cause them to fall off.

please don't start with the realism bull **** cos if you wanna get pickey there is no respawning in real life, there is no taking six tommy rounds to the chest and not dying and there is no running around a map after little flags.

If you dont like the idea, fair enough, say so. But please don't go picking at little bloody details without offering an alternative or any other helpful information.

Ska

07-10-2003, 04:30 PM
Sounds good man, can't wait to see these things done. :p

Dr. Crawford
07-10-2003, 04:31 PM
Personally, I think its a lousy idea. you won't even be able to see them. It would just look silly. Maybe a piece of brain matter or something would be better? I don't know..Just not this.

Ska Wars
07-10-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Crawford
It would just look silly. Maybe a piece of brain matter or something would be better?

Well no offence buts thats pretty dumb. These will replace the helmets on the floor. Helmets can be blown off yet not kill the wearer. Having a piece of brain getting blown outta the trooper and yet not killing him would look even more "silly" wouldn't it?

Ska

Dr. Crawford
07-10-2003, 04:47 PM
well if shrapnel can cut through the chain, it would most likely sever the neck completely. I dont mean brain, just a piece of gib like in half life.

Russ. Conscript
07-10-2003, 05:06 PM
well, its different. i think it would be pretty cool to see in game.

mabey a gib, or an eye or something could work too.

07-10-2003, 05:26 PM
Hell, let's go all out and have the guy's head explode! Now that's realism! But seriously, the falling/flying tags DO sound cool.

AFG
07-10-2003, 05:29 PM
i m sure it will look great ska!

Pinhead
07-10-2003, 05:57 PM
Another thing to do would be to rename your null file. Then there will be no helmets falling off. Getting shot in the head so that the dog tags around your neck is not very plausable. Of course if thats your bag then go ahead...

07-10-2003, 06:50 PM
Tooth, teeth? ;)

Would go well with the garand buttshmack anyway. ;)

Trigger
07-10-2003, 07:24 PM
An interesting idea, no doubt, and despite the nay-sayers I think it would be cool. But I still prefer to see peoples helmets fly off, it's just too cool to not include it. For those people who don't care for it, dog tags are a good way to go. As for gibs flying off, I think Marzy was working on something like that a few weeks ago.

My tankers still can have their helmets knocked off, just not the tanker helmets which most wear under the steel pot.

AFG
07-10-2003, 07:53 PM
ur tankers have awesome helmets :D
(specially the sarge's one; reminds me of the delta force helmet in Black Hawk Down)

gabagoo
07-10-2003, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by AFG
ur tankers have awesome helmets :D
(specially the sarge's one; reminds me of the delta force helmet in Black Hawk Down)
trigger your tanker models are all i use but latley ive noticed some errors. like i can see polygons ingame :O

oh and about this idea Ska im gonna have to agree with triggar :P but i know it would look awsome on the player models like i suggested

07-10-2003, 08:57 PM
Uh oh. Smoothing groups.

Sclass12
07-10-2003, 10:48 PM
Reiben:"Look at this poor ******* *Holds up dogtag with hole in it with blood*
Mellish:"I guess they're not bulletproof, eh?"

I dont nhave a good memory, thats the best i can remember. And i dont feel like taking out my SPR dvd and watching that scene.

Anyway, I'd rather see helmets. But i guess you should do it for the guys who want it

Ska Wars
07-11-2003, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Pinhead
Another thing to do would be to rename your null file. Then there will be no helmets falling off.

I already said that in my very first post in this thread.

Ah bollocks it, this really aint worth the fecking hassel.

Ska

07-11-2003, 09:21 AM
personally i think its a great idea m8, it will fix the problem (like u said) of the packs being re-converted from the betas were helmets cant fly off.
good idea, hope sumin does go ahead

07-11-2003, 10:40 AM
i dont like the idea of dog tags falling off but having them on there would be sweet. :) All models should have them.

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