MREQ:Lewis


06-30-2003, 08:59 PM
I am respectfully requesting a Lewis Gun model to replace the Bren.

gabagoo
06-30-2003, 10:40 PM
yes please:cool:

Cheeto
06-30-2003, 11:13 PM
Yeah bugger the realism, it's a cool looking gun. C'mon, I'll even give someone some ref pics (I don't have the time to do it myself).

07-01-2003, 02:03 AM
Bump.

The lewis was used some by the british in ww2 and, it only weighs a little over 4lbs more than the Bren. So it's not unrealistic to have.

Trp. Jed
07-01-2003, 02:45 AM
Marzy has got one but he seems to of dissapeared.

- Jed

07-01-2003, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by The Mole
Bump.

The lewis was used some by the british in ww2 and, it only weighs a little over 4lbs more than the Bren. So it's not unrealistic to have.

tbh you'd better hide before the americans come in here and start complaing about us trying to destroy the realism. Don't try to justify it, that'll just make them crosser.

We deserve a nice Lewis Gun model, we poor brits ahve been sweapt aside in dod for too long, tbh 3 maps and 5 guns aint enough (2 of those guns are the same pretty much) But a lewis would make a nice Bren replacement, maybe with half loaded drum mags or with small belts feeding it?

MaRzY
07-01-2003, 03:20 AM
Still about Jed, just not been that active at the min modeling and playing dod. I've just got hold of some 1 player games that i'm putting a bit of time into for a change.

Anyway here is my lewis model, just need to add a few more things and it will be finished.

Lewis WIP Preview pic (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/lewis30cal.jpg)

Now ill finish it up if i can find a few peeps to help me out, what i need is a GOOD

Mesher
Skinner
Animator

Please though don't say you will help if your not good at one or more of the above, i mean no offence, i just wont peeps who are good at what they do, to originally work on my models for there first release.

I have a full set of British weapon models that need some finishing touches added to them, and ill also be looking for help with these aswell, they are all accrete to the real thing and are hi poly models.

The modeling is about 90% finished.

The bren model has been worked on somemore since these pics where made. also some pic's have had no smooth shading applyed.

Bren Pic 1 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/bren2wip.jpg)
Bren Pic 2 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/bren2wip2.jpg)
Sten MKII Pic (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/mysten.jpg)
Lewis Pic (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/lewispreview2.jpg)
Webly Pic (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/scotsweb.jpg)
Mills Nade Pic (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/mills_nade.jpg)
Knife (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/finalknife.jpg)
Enfeld Scope (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/enfieldscope.jpg)
Lee Enfield Pic (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scitzo/myenfielwip.jpg)

Theres also PIAT half built aswell, and there wil be a MK5 Sten aswell.

Trp. Jed
07-01-2003, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by MaRzY
Mesher

Hello :D

- Jed

MaRzY
07-01-2003, 03:49 AM
Funny you just posted in this thread as i made a post in yours..lol

Thx Jed

Ok i have a good mesher.........:)

Now i just need a good animator and skinner to set the wheels in motion and we will be off to a good start.

Any chance of re meshing the sten model you got of me Jed, as i know Poly said he would like to skin that one.

Trp. Jed
07-01-2003, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by MaRzY
Funny you just posted in this thread as i made a post in yours..lol

Thx Jed

Ok i have a good mesher.........:)

Now i just need a good animator and skinner to set the wheels in motion and we will be off to a good start.

Any chance of re meshing the sten model you got of me Jed, as i know Poly said he would like to skin thaat one.

Well I can stick a basic looking skin on it for show until you get a better one - metal 's not my forté. What about Poly?

As for animation - I usually look for another set of anims close to what I want from the default DoD and start from there.

- Jed

MaRzY
07-01-2003, 03:57 AM
I was thinking of the Lewis anim's more then any of the others, because we will need this animating from scratch i think, and it would be good if an animator could join us, because fresh anim's are always a good thing if done well.

07-01-2003, 04:12 AM
between Jed and Marzy you may just do us brits proud. TBH if i weren't a hetrosexual male without a womb I'd happily father your puppies :)

You two are there to be wubbed and I hope to god you don't feel your work goes unappreciated.

My little requests are speed is vital please release stuff as soon as is possible in what are I imagine very busy lives you lead

Secondly the Mk5 with pistol type foregrip wouldbe lovely

The stuff you've made looks wonderful and some shoulderview version would go down a treat, none of that pamby ironsight nonsense

07-01-2003, 07:34 AM
Don't forget to animate the rotation of the drum mag during firing.

Toejam Football
07-01-2003, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by jcoquillon
tbh you'd better hide before the americans come in here and start complaing about us trying to destroy the realism. Don't try to justify it, that'll just make them crosser.

We deserve a nice Lewis Gun model, we poor brits ahve been sweapt aside in dod for too long, tbh 3 maps and 5 guns aint enough (2 of those guns are the same pretty much) But a lewis would make a nice Bren replacement, maybe with half loaded drum mags or with small belts feeding it?

What do you mean? Im American and I would love to see the Lewis gun.

Also that thing you said about having their puppies is hilarious lol

07-01-2003, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by The Mole
Don't forget to animate the rotation of the drum mag during firing.

IIRC the drum doesn't rotate at all. It has a circular spring inside that is cranked back inside ina spiral and that pushes the bullets out into the gun

and tbh puppies are teh win

07-01-2003, 09:32 AM
http://www.blackrivermilitaria.com/belts/jap~lewis~mag.jpg http://www.blackrivermilitaria.com/belts/Lewisdrum.jpg The first pic is one loaded the second pic is the top cover. the end of the cartridge fits in the grooves of the drum's case, in order to work the drum would have to rotate. http://www.american180.com/articles/mgn12-95.html the second paragraph clearly states, "The Lewis gun's operating mechanism powered its drum magazine."

Cheeto
07-01-2003, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by jcoquillon
tbh you'd better hide before the americans come in here and start complaing about us trying to destroy the realism. Don't try to justify it, that'll just make them crosser. What the hell is that supposed to mean? The Americans have been wanting a Lewis as long as the Brits and Germans. And I've heard just as many of them *****ing about the realism, too.

MaRzY, this might be able to use my DP anims once I get them done, and since I intend to save them in MS3D format (so I can easily edit them) I might be able to tailor them to fit the gun better if they don't already.

Vandal
07-01-2003, 10:04 AM
jcoquillon, not to beat a dead horse, as it seems two have already commented. But your flame on Americans was obnoxious and not warrented. Most people here are Realism nazis, but not all of them are from the US. Wise up, pal. Don't be such a jerk, at least not without proper prompting first.

I guess the message here is simple:

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
We're not ALL jerks.

07-01-2003, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by jcoquillon


and tbh puppies are teh win

and tbh you say tbh entirely too much.

07-01-2003, 11:16 AM
I apologise if I have offended any one. I've joined in discussions about adding an MG class with a lewis for Brits in the Suggestions forum and each time a huge wave of negative feedback is soon deposited on it for one reason or another. Whenever any addition is suggested to augment the brits this seems to happen and I made a joking reference to it. If it really upset people that much I'll retract the comment.

I didn't set out to offend you all and feel quite upset that I have. I try to make sure to keep my comments light hearted and avoid anything that will cause this type of situation and in this case I have made an error

As for the fact I say tbh far too much, you have me there 100%. I spend too much time in IRC and it's absolutely everywhere. Believe meI have been striving to use it less as much as possible.

I am sorry

Ska Wars
07-01-2003, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Skullz_Vandal
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
We're not ALL jerks.

lol that made me smile reading that then.

I gotta agree with toejam though, some yanks have been wanting this as long as us brits.

Good luck with it lads, it looks great so far.

Ska

gabagoo
07-01-2003, 02:52 PM
im american i want this bad :)
marzy that looks fecking beautiful

ZUZU
07-01-2003, 09:17 PM
See this is why I don't like this new forum no one can post a cool pic with his post

O well check this out


http://pic6.picturetrail.com/VOL169/1054556/1977110/28573998.jpg

JoJo
07-02-2003, 06:03 AM
Originally posted by jcoquillon
tbh you'd better hide before the americans come in here and start complaing about us trying to destroy the realism. Don't try to justify it, that'll just make them crosser. jcoquillon m8 you should have said that you were over taken by that age old british problem, which we all suffer, sarcasm :D.


BTW, hmmmm orange tic tacs! :)

07-02-2003, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by JoJo
jcoquillon m8 you should have said that you were over taken by that age old british problem, which we all suffer, sarcasm :D.


BTW, hmmmm orange tic tacs! :)

Well my sig has always mentioned it (sarcasm not tictacs), I'm not going to defend my actions though as I don't want to risk any more provocation for further flaming. I made a comment that was tongue in cheek and it back fired. I should have said "Realism Freaks" and not Americans, I just always assumed it was Americans who complained when we Brits suggested we were hard done by.

I'm mostly upset I've caused disruption to the praise of the wonderful work of Marzy and Jed in this topic. Don't stop now lads, they may still be able to fit through a door, their heads need to double in size yet

JoJo
07-02-2003, 09:19 AM
I very sensible reply, usuallyl if I make a statement like that I just put on my flame retardant clothing, but your idea was better!

=DD=Wolf Kahler
07-02-2003, 03:25 PM
I'm Canadian and I think Lewis guns rock. At least the image of ass-whooping they invoke, which has been with me since Punisher whipped two out in an other-worlds Wild West story. ^_^

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