B.A.R Needs 2 hands. not one.


The Canadian
06-03-2003, 08:49 PM
I think everyone who has looked carefully ingame at the BAR, or seen in HLVM that it has only ONE hand. Now i'm not to sure on this but I think you kinda need two hands to hold up and fire a BAR. Could someone please add the other hand onto a BAR model (Prefferably devin's with Bittles new anims :p ) It would really look so much nicer ingame. Thanks in advance!

PS, Dillinger check ur PM. :)

Sgt.Sinister
06-03-2003, 08:55 PM
it doesnt have a second hand because you wouldnt see the other hand in-game.

The Canadian
06-03-2003, 08:57 PM
Yes I believe if you did add a second hand, in some parts of the anims you would see a bit of his thumb and a bit of his hand.

MeNKeH
06-03-2003, 09:00 PM
who cares? its just a hand dude, do you acutally think youre going to take the time to notice your hand in the heat of battle?

The Canadian
06-03-2003, 09:01 PM
ok ok, i guess your right. But please for the next person who makes a BAR model, plz, think of the hands.

Doc Orange
06-03-2003, 09:04 PM
they didnt add the hand, because they didnt need to...
if its not into view, then they didnt add it...

if they did, they would have extra unessessary(sp) polys in the model

The Canadian
06-03-2003, 09:11 PM
k guys plz, enough with the negativity. I know how polys work and shiz, i'm not a newb so please, don't treat me like one.

I refer you all to my signature... and notice it says BETA not VERSION. Thank you.

Doc Orange
06-03-2003, 09:13 PM
whut does RN mean?

;)
[edit] u'll own me if u get it

The Canadian
06-03-2003, 09:18 PM
Random Nonsense... I OWNED JOO

Doc Orange
06-03-2003, 09:19 PM
NOOO!!!!

/me bows

Trigger
06-03-2003, 09:21 PM
I too find this rather annoying, there are times that it's more noticeable, and it makes it difficult to reorigin and keep it looking good. I'm surprised so many people took the time to post how they don't want that. I've never fully understood why anyone does that, and I doubt I ever will. Some people may not notice or care, but others do.

On a related note, the bar has no draw animations, it just appears on-screen, it'd be nice if someone could put together an animation for that.

06-03-2003, 09:22 PM
i wish it had a second hand! D: I dont care if you notice it or not.. it may work nice if anyone ever decided to reorigin it...

trigger hop on aim

Capt. Glimsharp
06-03-2003, 10:08 PM
The DoD Team remove any part of the model that cannot be seen in game. They do this to cut down on poly's and keep the size of each model file to a minimum.

Dunno if any of you have held a BAR ?

I have - several times and I have "tried" to reload it (mag in/out) just like the anims in DoD. Im not a weak fella by any means - but I can tell you that there is no way you can hold the BAR with one hand and pull out the mag as it does in DoD (even worse in BF1942 - its like a toy BAR !!) - the BAR is a heavy bit of kit !! Feels nearly as heavy as the Bren.

Ill no doubt re-animate the BAR with more "realistic" reload anims - oh yes, it will have two hands !

:)

RealyPssd
06-03-2003, 10:09 PM
Can't wait Glimmy ;)

06-03-2003, 10:09 PM
yay for glimmy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

E.B. Sledge
06-03-2003, 10:22 PM
i don't care what people say. the one-hand-BAR pisses me off to no end. ever since we were introduced to the model in 1.3, i noticed it almost instantly. i've learned to ignore it, but i still don't like it.

06-04-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by MeNKeH
who cares? its just a hand dude, do you acutally think youre going to take the time to notice your hand in the heat of battle?

Well, we can't just stand here staring at our fingers. Although...

They call 'em fingers, but I never see 'em fing... There they go.
:)

Russ. Conscript
06-04-2003, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Capt. Glimsharp
I have - several times and I have "tried" to reload it (mag in/out) just like the anims in DoD. Im not a weak fella by any means - but I can tell you that there is no way you can hold the BAR with one hand and pull out the mag as it does in DoD (even worse in BF1942 - its like a toy BAR !!) - the BAR is a heavy bit of kit !! Feels nearly as heavy as the Bren.

Ill no doubt re-animate the BAR with more "realistic" reload anims - oh yes, it will have two hands !

:)

Man, then Rieben must have been one strong mother...
at the scene where he tells ryan "Hey *******! we lost two of our guys lookin for you." he holds it up with one had, with ease. probobly made of rubber or something.

The Cheat
06-04-2003, 01:10 PM
i'm pretty sure that bar is Ankalars. Devin rarely ever makes anything of his own and when he does its the holy shat. So yea. Two hands would seem logical to me when you are firing a light machine gun.

The Cheat
06-04-2003, 01:12 PM
The weapons used in the filming of Saving Private Ryan were real. They weren't imitations and they weren't remade with new parts. It is possible to hold a bar up with one hand like he did on the bridge, and he didn't hold it up for very long. You'll notice it was resting on his arm. Yea.

The Canadian
06-04-2003, 02:05 PM
Oh i'm sorry if it is Ankalars. As a matter of fact i think it is. Glim r tez legend. *me bows to Glim and hopes to someday see him on the Re-enactment field* :D

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