Resizing everthing in the map at once?
01-07-2008, 11:31 AM
SO i finally made the final version of my map and have gone to test it. Unfortunately for me, everything in my map is like 4 times bigger than it needs to be. Im like a mouse running around on this thing. This screenie is of what is supposed to be a tunnel (no roof/cieling yet). As you can see, the walls are the size of a 3 story building. Please for he love of all humanity tell em that there is a way to resize my entire map at once so i dont have to go back over this. The map is perfect except for itsd ridiculos size. perfect proportions and whatnot and it works. just wicked lame size :( :(
01-07-2008, 11:58 AM
yes there is an easy way, goto edit, select all.
whilst everything is selected [red] goto tools-transform- down the left side of this box there are 3 options rotate , scale , and something else which i cant remember of hand. select scale and change the values in each of the 3 boxes to the same amount say 0.5 in each .
clcik ok and walla.
remember tho this wont rescale the models!!!
good luck bud
ps next time you wat to see how large your work is b4 playing place an allies player entity to use as a scale.
01-07-2008, 12:05 PM
omg. words cannot describe how you have helped me. I just spent like 2 days straight making this map. and its quite perfect. i had some stupid issues with my map not being properly loaded so i didnt try it till just now. i have map a few other maps so i figured i had it down. :)
01-07-2008, 04:02 PM
Just a warning, if you have any objects that would have a dimension less than one after resizing, it will cause your map to crash when you compile.
01-08-2008, 01:08 PM
i don't under stand that warning. :(
and how do i change it back temporarily? I cant work on my map anymore because now its the right size and anything new i do doesn't line up right. i put 0.5 in each. : ( i actually may have done it twice. i don't remember. i dont think it worked right the first time.
01-08-2008, 05:19 PM
so if i shrank my map by doing .5 in all 3 boxes, how do i make it go back to what it was before so that i can continue editing?
01-08-2008, 05:22 PM
By multiplying it by 2?
01-08-2008, 05:31 PM
yeah but do i just put 2 in all the boxes to reverse it?
01-08-2008, 05:54 PM
i don't under stand that warning. :(
Let's say you have a wall with a thickness of 2 units. If you shrink it by 50%, it becomes 1 unit thick. Shrink it again, and it's now .5 units thick. If something like that occurs, your map won't compile.
01-08-2008, 06:05 PM
ah i see now. Thats what i thought you meant but wasnt sure 100%
Well. I have shrunk the map and played on it successfully. Now i am tryign to make it back to the size that it was so that i can fix stuff and continue working on it. I just dont know how to reverse it. : ( Math is NOT my strongest area of study.
01-08-2008, 06:29 PM
multiples of 16 is a key thing. Make a little chart or something
if i were you, and you were me. Id use YOUR body to get to the top ! You can't stop me no matter who you are ! wait sorry, what i ment to say is -> if i were you, i would have saved my map many times over, so i could then go back to whatever version i wanted.
THats how i map. if i add something, i save it as something different, blah blah, after a few days i have 20 versions of the same map, but with the thing added to it.
01-08-2008, 06:42 PM
i think i figured out my own question. Map>smaller grid. :)
01-08-2008, 06:45 PM
i hear that. Im just wicked lazy. :( saving a buch of times in separate names will just give me one more distraction. Thats a big problem with me mapping. distractions. >:(
01-08-2008, 08:23 PM
with a smaller grid, you can move things around to a T. I always map with the smallest grid, because of this.
as for being lazy and having distractions. same here. im learning as well, so im now getting in the habit of starting new maps. If doing this has you looking up stuff you have already done, then thats fine. Practice. The more you start from scratch, the better it is for you. It will get to the point where it is easy to throw down a room with a door, light and switch.
i see you got some bushes in yer map. Are thoes bushes in dod or are thoes custom, inwhich you downloaded ?
The smallest grid isn't always the best option. I only use the 1 unit grid when placing models. Using a larger grid (ie: 4 units) also prevents you from making unproportional brushes in your maps.
01-09-2008, 04:29 AM
i found this out RIGHT after i posted that. Funny. Im learning :mad:
I was once an even bigger noob than I am and mapped with the grid on 1. I now use 4, 8, or 16 for most geometry and occasionally go smaller for placing models. I think I now map about 16 times as fast because it's so much easier to avoid misaligning brushes, it's easier to settle on a scale for a building or anything, and you don't have to sit there dragging the selection box out to make a brush one unit at a time.
Anyways, I know you got the solution above, but I would probbly suggest just starting over from scratch on your map and building everything at the correct size. Learn to map in the proper scale now and you'll be saving yourself A LOT of time on any future maps you make.
I just spent like 2 days straight making this map. and its quite perfect.
Quote of the year.
Quote of the year.
01-10-2008, 01:36 PM
@nave hey man, i like it. :) I built it exactly to what i think a perfect map would look like. So to me, it IS perfect. :)
@Tyler Distractions f'in kill me. I work full time plus run my own PC business from home so they are NEVER ending. The busshes you speak of are built into the editor as a "nature" texture to the name of "dirtfloor001a". Sexy ass texture for sure. I use it on the side of railways beds i make. makes it look way better and more realistic. Yeah im really glad i found tout about hat map>smaller grid thing. saved my life.
@Woj Yeah i ended up restarting the map even after knowing i could make the grids smaller. Practice makes perfect, and your absolutely correct. I can now throw down the basic parts of a map with my eyes close amongst the mountains of distractions thrown at me. Knowing that i can change the grid size has most certainly helped me a whole lot. I am now a lot faster and accurate than before and i love it.
Im working on making my map nightime with snow falling and spotlights only really lighting up certain parts of the map. I think it will be sexy as hell when im done. Anyone know how to make a simple video of me running around my map so that i can show other people? Fraps makes way to big of a file to work with. Has to be an easier way. I want to try to upload it to a video watching site like youtube or stage6 or megavideo.
Remember that maps are for more than 1 player usually, so it'll never really be perfect for anyone, unless you made a single player map that you're not going to release :\
01-10-2008, 03:14 PM
i understand and agree. The map has several strategic "sweet spots" that alot of people will really enjoy. Sorry i said perfect though, just overly excited because its like playing with virtual Legos that i get to kick peoples butts on later. ;) And the entire process is fun and looks amazing. :)
I just thought it was a funny phrase. Your standards of perfection are your own entitlement. ;)
01-11-2008, 06:05 AM
This thread wins.
Keep at it WS, just remember you'll hate yourself 2 months after your release for having released it in the first place :) That's how perfect maps are...
01-11-2008, 12:27 PM
I just posted a thread about my progress :)
01-11-2008, 04:14 PM
Release your maps as betas, so that you can change them later to make them more perfect.
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