5hifty's stg44 reskin WIP


5hifty
07-26-2006, 08:05 PM
Here are some pics of my next project the all might STG44.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/STG44-PREVIEW.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/STG44-PREVIEW2.jpg

Kieffer
07-26-2006, 08:29 PM
If you could make scratches on the medal similar to the scratches on the wood, that would be awesome.

5hifty
07-26-2006, 08:38 PM
i will add scratches. Right now i am putting the reskin together first, then i put scratches in. They will be there I promise

Deceiver
07-26-2006, 10:27 PM
The metal kinda looks like a plastic toy texture. And may I suggest using one of the stocks pictured here:

http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mp442wv.jpg

Guyver
07-26-2006, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by deceiver
The metal kinda looks like a plastic toy texture. And may Is uggest using one of the stocks pictured here:

http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mp442wv.jpg
Yeah, please use stock #6 :D

Also, here's more references:
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/stg44_and_sling.htm
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/MP44_1944.htm
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/STG44_nazi.htm
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/1944_mp44.htm
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/MP44_STG44.htm
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/STG44.htm
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/oldspecmp44.htm

5hifty, just so you know..the grip plates are supposed to be Bakelite, not wood.:)

5hifty
07-26-2006, 11:53 PM
the wood will be redone i assure u that. I did look prior to making the reskin at the pics u have given me and i will take into fact the wood for them. Tell u the truth i didnt like the wood i have on for it anyway. I will redo the stock to #6 and i will have a bakelite grip.

Kieffer
07-27-2006, 12:58 AM
Your skinning has really improved Shifty. I'm excited to see the final product of this skin.

Guyver
07-27-2006, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by 5hifty
the wood will be redone i assure u that. I did look prior to making the reskin at the pics u have given me and i will take into fact the wood for them. Tell u the truth i didnt like the wood i have on for it anyway. I will redo the stock to #6 and i will have a bakelite grip. :donrluvs:

DayofDfeat123
07-27-2006, 11:04 AM
lols omg. Dont make me reskin the stg to lol. Looks good but needs alot of work. First of all the highlightes are over all nice and the lighting is good to. But the texure im just not fealing. Needs to be darker and have more contrast. More detail to. O im going to start on the mp40 complete reskin then Ill do a k98 reskin and then finaly Ill do maybe a m1 garand or a thompson. I know im going to do a knife and spade skin.

Sproily
07-27-2006, 11:12 AM
you could glossify the wood

DayofDfeat123
07-27-2006, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Sproily
you could glossify the wood

?? whats that mean? like give it glossy highlightes? O and do you know a good way to make bakelight?

5hifty
07-28-2006, 07:39 AM
Here is a quick update for the reskin. I made a brand new stock from scratch and made a new grip. I can always change the colors to them so give me some feedback. Also does anyone know how to remove the hands and sleeves when viewing a model in the source sdk model viewer v2.0?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/left.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/WOOD.jpg

Kieffer
07-28-2006, 08:39 AM
Wow, the wood looks amazing!

Sabre
07-28-2006, 08:44 AM
I don't particularly like orange wood (on any StG '44 skin). I'd personally recommend that you do at least two wood/bakelite colours, so people can choose which they prefer. As already shown in this picture (http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mp442wv.jpg), there's five other varieties you can choose from to skin. That said however, the wood skin itself is quite well done.

Guyver
07-28-2006, 10:35 AM
It looks like you're using this as a reference:
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/oldspecmp44.htm

Personally, I'd use one of the other darker ones...or you could make two versions so people could choose as S@bre said.

I actually think DoD team used that picture as what to base the default on, because they look very similar.

NJ on it so far though.:)

EDIT:
Looking back through through the pictures, I really like this one:
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/STG44_nazi.htm

5hifty
07-28-2006, 11:40 AM
***UPDATE***

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/19876.jpg

"EDIT:
Looking back through through the pictures, I really this one:
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/STG44_nazi.htm"

dude i was lookin at the same one for the different reskin. I liked the stock on it most of all. I dont think the dod team use that other one b/c its mark 1963 and thats a post war stg.

Sabre
07-28-2006, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Guyver
Looking back through through the pictures, I really this one:
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/STG44_nazi.htm

I like that too, its a neat compromise between the light wood and dark wood/bakelite.

Up for doing three versions Shifty?

5hifty
07-28-2006, 01:03 PM
i don't mind at all the only problem is trying to fit all the reskins in one file download. Hopefully I can do it for fpsbanana, but dodcustoms no way not 1.3mb to small.

Guyver
07-28-2006, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by 5hifty
but dodcustoms no way not 1.3mb to small. Admins are able to upload larger files I think.

Kieffer
07-28-2006, 04:50 PM
Im starting to really love your skins, Shifty!

5hifty
07-28-2006, 11:21 PM
***UPDATE***

Here are first 2 versions of the stg44 I have made. I will make a third wood reskin for this complete pack. So enjoy these pics they are in beta testing right now. Im pretty sure these will be the final products though.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/YELLOWWOOD.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/orangewood.jpg

Kieffer
07-29-2006, 01:03 AM
Wow! Those look really really good! Awesome work, Shifty.

triskex
07-29-2006, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by DayofDfeat123
lols omg. Dont make me reskin the stg to lol. Looks good but needs alot of work. First of all the highlightes are over all nice and the lighting is good to. But the texure im just not fealing. Needs to be darker and have more contrast. More detail to. O im going to start on the mp40 complete reskin then Ill do a k98 reskin and then finaly Ill do maybe a m1 garand or a thompson. I know im going to do a knife and spade skin.
i think you are quite wrong in the ways he could improve his skin.
first, the darkness of the texture has nothing to do with the texture, same with contrast. second, his wood texture is very nice just the highlights arent how id do them, and the metal could use a lot more texture.
but, i like this skin and i think this will turn out nice.
also, try not to talk about your skins in someone elses skin thread.

Sabre
07-29-2006, 03:24 AM
They are looking good! I particularly like the light variants on both (mainly because I can't see any detail on the dark ones). Got a request: can you see if you can do some alpha mapping to it, like Coyote has on his skins?

5hifty
07-29-2006, 03:50 AM
by alpha do u mean normal maps?

Sabre
07-29-2006, 06:53 AM
No, alpha mapping is different to normal mapping, it helps to convey an effect of reflecting light. It's present on a number of Wile E Coyote's skins, he seems to have harnessed its abilities well, and uses them in place of normal maps.

It uses the "$envmap" and "$basealphaenvmapmask" VMT strings, along with various other lines that define how potent it is. The default C-96 and MG-42 utilise a form of alpha mapping as opposed to normal mapping.

Check out some or Coyote's releases (http://www.sheer-genius.org/wiledod.html) to get some examples. Most of his weapon releases use alpha mapping.

Both normal and alpha mapping works on a skin well, although I don't think that they work together brilliantly, its more one or the other. If you could try for either a normal or alpha map, that would be great.

SilentSteps
07-29-2006, 07:29 AM
I really like the dark version you have in works, 5hifty. :)

5hifty
07-29-2006, 08:05 AM
***UPDATE***

Here is my final wood reskin version. I will be finalizing the skins and testing them ingame for there replay values. I also have some ingame screenshots of the orange stocked reskin. You can see in the screenshots the alpha maps.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/6U67766G.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_donner0003.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_donner0007.jpg

without scratches and highlights with alpha maps.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/dod_anzio0000.jpg

SilentSteps
07-29-2006, 08:13 AM
Cool.. just a question, what do you have your AA set to?

5hifty
07-29-2006, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by SilentSteps
Cool.. just a question, what do you have your AA set to?


6x i believe. does anyone know how to remove the hands and sleeves when viewing a model in the source sdk model viewer v2.0?

Sabre
07-29-2006, 09:07 AM
Can't see much of the alpha map in that picture (alpha maps are most noticable in areas with bad lighting), but what I can see I like. I look forward to the release!

5hifty
07-29-2006, 03:47 PM
MY SKIN IS RELEASED DONWLOAD NOW!!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Alstrplyr27/day%20of%20defeat/1126b95b.jpg

http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67292

Die Schlampfe
07-30-2006, 12:04 AM
These are some awesome skins you've made Shifty (BAR and StG44). Any chance, if you get time, to do the machine guns? Been dying for a good total reskin of them, they seem to get ignored.

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