[HUD] Small HUD Ver 7 and Menu...


INsane_dod
07-07-2006, 07:33 AM
I am constantly asked to do something about the Kills/Deaths area.

Long names are a problem all over the HUD but this area annoys people the most.

This version plays around with that area by giving the Kills/Deaths/Caps it's own font and reducing the panels height.

There is also a menu for shrinking the icons in that area or turning them off completely. The backgrounds are green for other players and black for your info, they are also adjustable from off to very dark.

This menu also controls the Film Grain (Just on and off). The MiniMap and Netgraph controls and expands out the map description a bit....

Picture of Menu. (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/Teammenu.JPG)

Other Pics...
Clomar Cap. (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/dod_colmar_cap.jpg)
Jagd Cap. (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/dod_jagd_cap.jpg)
Kills, Deaths Area. (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/dod_jagd_icons.jpg)

Small Chat Font Option. (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/Small_chat_fonts_version_7.jpg)



Download of the HUD/Menu has two choices...

INSTALLER (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/INsanes_Small_HUD_Ver_7_Installer.zip)

........or

ZIP (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/INsanes_Small_HUD_Ver_7.zip)

The installer version is best for new players... it also uninstalls.

Enjoy

INsane. insane@dodbits.com

odin318
07-07-2006, 09:21 AM
wow - thank you so much insane. cant wait to try it out!

Dr. Crawford
07-07-2006, 12:10 PM
This looks great, but can you make a version with small player text too?

Tonedef
07-07-2006, 02:42 PM
Looks good, going to try it out.

Why do you have the x-hair replace the default?

INsane_dod
07-07-2006, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Tonedef
Looks good, going to try it out.

Why do you have the x-hair replace the default?

It's just there as an option if some want it. I just reworked the T shaped one.

I use it when a use/pick up a single shot rifle :)

INsane_dod
07-07-2006, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Crawford
This looks great, but can you make a version with small player text too?

Do you mean the chat area or the player info when you point your gun at a teammate?

This version was for people who want smaller fonts in the kills / deaths and win panels... the chat font is standard. I have had lots of requests to leave the chat alone and just rework certain areas.

Some games everyone has good sized names... then along rocks your little brother with "-=tFR=-wAgsmisTer_tHe_gRate" and spams the chat... that's when to use the controls in the menu... I sometimes turn it off completely or limit the seconds it displays... then turn it back to normal when they leave.

I test on my pc and decide it looks ok... but so many variables come into it, the size of the monitor, the brightness settings on the monitor and in-game settings, a map that is bright and sunny and a dark map.

It's hard to fine tune to everyone's taste :D

So the answer is make many versions with font options on the side. Only downside to that is ... when an update rocks around you have more to do.

But ... I enjoy doing this stuff, so I don't mind one bit.

If you want an area customized because of a certain problem or taste emailing me is best and describe the area you have a problem with... insane@dodbits.com

Dr. Crawford
07-07-2006, 08:06 PM
Yes the chat area. could you make that a customizable size on the select menu like you did with other sizes of icons and such? if so that would be great!

Kieffer
07-08-2006, 01:55 AM
Oh man, I love it! And it's so user friendly! I applaud for you, my good friend.

INsane_dod
07-08-2006, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Crawford
Yes the chat area. could you make that a customizable size on the select menu like you did with other sizes of icons and such? if so that would be great!

Small fonts done!

But it has to be one or the other, once the ClientScheme.res file loads... that's it for font changes :) Would be nice to have an option like that, but not possible sorry.


PIC... Small fonts for ver 7 HUD (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/Small_chat_fonts_version_7.jpg)

Zip package download. (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/Small_light_fonts_V7_HUD.zip)

OR...

Installer Package download. (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/Installer_Small_light_fonts_V7_HUD.zip)

I have also changed the installer now it has more "tick" options in it... same files plus the new small font option.

Guyver
07-08-2006, 03:05 AM
Nice.

/using:D

LJFSP
07-08-2006, 09:31 AM
Omg this is the Sh**. I love this HUD and I love how you can change things on the fly. Thank you for releasing this verison.

Dr. Crawford
07-08-2006, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by INsane_dod
Small fonts done!

But it has to be one or the other, once the ClientScheme.res file loads... that's it for font changes :) Would be nice to have an option like that, but not possible sorry.


PIC... Small fonts for ver 7 HUD (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/Small_chat_fonts_version_7.jpg)

Zip package download. (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/Small_light_fonts_V7_HUD.zip)

OR...

Installer Package download. (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/Installer_Small_light_fonts_V7_HUD.zip)

I have also changed the installer now it has more "tick" options in it... same files plus the new small font option.

Thank you so much!

Guyver
07-08-2006, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by INsane_dod
Small fonts done!

But it has to be one or the other, once the ClientScheme.res file loads... that's it for font changes :) Would be nice to have an option like that, but not possible sorry.


PIC... Small fonts for ver 7 HUD (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/Small_chat_fonts_version_7.jpg)

Zip package download. (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/Small_light_fonts_V7_HUD.zip)

OR...

Installer Package download. (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/Ver7/Installer_Small_light_fonts_V7_HUD.zip)

I have also changed the installer now it has more "tick" options in it... same files plus the new small font option. Do the death messages stay small as well..or is that what mean by one or the other?

INsane_dod
07-08-2006, 11:19 AM
If you go back a bit *I think* Dr. Crawford was talking about an option in the in-game menu that comes with this hud... sort of switching fonts in-game. ..or at least I took it that way :D

That sort of option with a in-game menu can't be done.

The Kills Deaths area is already small in this Hud, the new, small font option just replaces more fonts like the chat area and a couple more.

Kieffer
07-08-2006, 11:31 AM
Any way you can darken the backround of the scoreboard?

mn9500
07-08-2006, 01:31 PM
is there anyway to make the text that shows the players name and health when you point at them bigger, thats really the only gripe i have, everything else is fine?

INsane_dod
07-08-2006, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by mn9500
is there anyway to make the text that shows the players name and health when you point at them bigger, thats really the only gripe i have, everything else is fine?

Yes :)

See this page (http://dodbits.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=37&limit=1&limitstart=2) for details.

INsane_dod
07-08-2006, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Kieffer [5th RB]
Any way you can darken the backround of the scoreboard?

Yes.

To change the color/darken (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/random/SCOREBOARD_SETTING.jpg) the scoreboard background....


Open the ClientScheme.res file in...

C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\youremail@poo.com\day of defeat source\dod\resource folder

Go to line 181 ...

SectionedListPanel.BgColor "TransparentLightBlack"

Your target here is to change the "TransparentLightBlack" (a base color... the ones at the top of the file) to a color you like.

Some functions have "base colors" but you can also put in a color instead of "TransparentLightBlack" like "0 0 0 220"... a less transparent black, more solid than default.

"255" = solid black ....... "0" = invisible

If you would like it darker or lighter black then adjust the last number in the set of 4.



"TransparentLightBlack" is a default hud "base color" mentioned on line 29...

"TransparentLightBlack" "0 0 0 150"


It is darker in my hud "0 0 0 200" but you said you wanted it even darker I would choose something between "0 0 0 220" - "0 0 0 230".


To learn more about choosing a color vist here. (http://dodbits.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=37&limit=1&limitstart=1)

Guyver
07-09-2006, 06:39 AM
What's different about the overhead player icons? Are they smaller or bigger than default?

INsane_dod
07-09-2006, 07:36 AM
Smaller by one third, quick Photoshop hack job of the standard ones :)

There is a cvar to do this but the devs made it a cheat.... why I have no idea, you can turn them off... but you are not allowed to make them smaller?????

:D :dog:

Guyver
07-09-2006, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by INsane_dod
Smaller by one third, quick Photoshop hack job of the standard ones :)

There is a cvar to do this but the devs made it a cheat.... why I have no idea, you can turn them off... but you are not allowed to make them smaller?????

:D :dog: Ahh, I see. Thanks:)

NotAgOat
07-11-2006, 04:31 PM
Awesome, this is the best version yet. GJ and keep up the good work!

Someth|ngW|cked
07-13-2006, 11:35 PM
I like everything cept the green, it would look nice with the default yellow for the heath bar, etc

cruzaderazn
07-14-2006, 03:20 PM
How would I change the font to not be "transparent?" I prefer the original styled text but i love everything else, especially the custom hud.

INsane_dod
07-14-2006, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Someth|ngW|cked
I like everything cept the green, it would look nice with the default yellow for the heath bar, etc

Hi ya Someth|ngW|cked :) ... need to a little more, the health bar only.... or Stamina and MG bar too?

I can do fix for that if you like :D


Originally posted by cruzaderazn
How would I change the font to not be "transparent?" I prefer the original styled text but i love everything else, especially the custom hud.

Same answer as above cruzaderazn, need a little more info.

Some versions of that have small fonts/highlighted in the kills/deaths area and the chat font also shares this font in some cases.

So just dods standard fonts in the Kills/deaths... and also in the chat font?





Oh BTW... started to record "what is what" in the file, ClientScheme.res, (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/random/DoDs_ClientScheme_functions.txt) that handles a lot of colors and backgrounds, it's a little messy and incomplete but some may find it of use.

I have only done the "BASE SETTINGS" section so far, (second section from the top) colors section at the top are next to do.

Cheers

INsane.

cruzaderazn
07-16-2006, 02:47 AM
Sorry for not being more in-depth. I meant all of the text (Kill/deaths...chat). I don't like the transparent version text because I'm colorblind, and when they're transperent like that, I can't tell the difference between the red and the green.

INsane_dod
07-16-2006, 04:51 AM
I understand how bad that is ... my Dad is color blind.

Go to the HudLayout.res file in the dod/scripts folder.

Replace "KDFontLIGHT" the default for that hud... with "KDFontSmall" .

Scroll down to line 148...


}
HudDeathNotice
{
"fieldName" "HudDeathNotice"
"visible" "1"
"enabled" "1"
"xpos" "r640"
"wide" "640"
"tall" "480"

"MaxDeathNotices" "4"
"LineHeight" "12" //"19"
"RightJustify" "1" // If 1, draw notices from the right

"TextFont" "KDFontLIGHT"
"CTTextColor" "CT_Blue"
"TerroristTextColor" "T_Red"

"BackgroundColor" "100 120 66 100"
"ActiveBackgroundColor" "0 0 0 90"
}



They will still be small but will have the black outline!

Now just below that you see the two adjustments for the Background color of Kills and deaths...

"BackgroundColor" "100 120 66 100" // this one is for Others (green)
"ActiveBackgroundColor" "0 0 0 90" // this one is for you. Black

Maybe a Grey instead of a Green for others?... "100 100 100 100"


What I am doing about this problem for color blind, small/dark/too light/blurry screens is reworking all huds soon to cope with more options as soon as they are released.

I have been reworking a few files so I can make them more personalized than before... a lot more options for the one HUD.

The current lay out in the standard huds is the color function that is for Other players is shared with another function in the weapons select screens. The ones you are involved in is ok.

A lot of color in the hud are this way, it's a "scheme" after all... but not very easy to adjust!

I reworked the ClientScheme.res file and some of the other files in a "to be released HUD".

I can now separate a lot of the colors and fonts, make a quick edit in the ClientScheme.res file only.... and have up to 10 or so options of colors and fonts in the one installer, on top of that each option only takes about 2 mins each to edit :)

Just ironing out some bugs in the installers to make it as foolproof as possible to install.

cheers

INsane.

Guyver
07-16-2006, 05:15 AM
Is it possibe to "scratch up" the hud like this?:
http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=57476&highlight=Hud+Elements

INsane_dod
07-16-2006, 06:15 AM
Yes, but i means quite a few VTF VMT files in place of the fill colors in the ClientScheme.res file.

I have had a bash at that before... but thought it was not worth the effort :)

I'll drag out some old files when I get more time and have a go at it. I have a few ideas already :D

Guyver
07-22-2006, 11:33 PM
Any progress?

INsane_dod
07-24-2006, 02:12 PM
It will be a while yet before I can explore that option.

I have a lot of pages on the website that are in need of an update and lots of new ones to add... have not got half the content in there about HUDs yet. Let alone CVAR's, menus, putting content in installers, a 'n00b" how to on autoexec files sprays/graphics and so on.

But I like the idea and would like to do that in a HUD that is nothing like the traditional dods layout. Also now I have a 20" widescreen... possibilities of design open way up.

DoD:s on a widescreen is soooo cool :) Res' @ 1680 x 1050 :D

Dunn0
08-16-2006, 09:59 PM
Added to DODCC..

Been using since release!!

INsanes_Small_HUD_Ver_7_Installer
http://dodcustomcontent.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=ns_getit&cid=63&lid=483&type=url#get

Cannon_Fodder
08-29-2006, 10:01 AM
Thanks a lot, been a long while since I played DoD and the names and God knows what else just kept getting in the way so much so that it made it hard to actually focus on the killing bits.

$harky
09-15-2006, 02:19 PM
Can some one please post the a zip or rar of just the menu screen, either that or explain which files in the installer are for the menu. thks ;)

INsane_dod
09-15-2006, 05:08 PM
Hi $harky, the Teammenu.res is the actual file it works off, it is in the dod\resource\UI folder.

The Zip file is here, (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/HUD/Zip_INsanes_Teamselect_Command_Menu.zip) on this page. (http://dodbits.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=33)

An explaination of it's code is here. (http://dodbits.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=38&Itemid=41)

That page is not complete, If you are going to make one and need assistance I can help... email me... insane@dodbits.com if you like.

$harky
09-16-2006, 09:09 AM
Thanks for that and btw you have done a gj on the menu, comes in very handy when muting voices of other players:)

Guyver
12-11-2006, 04:46 PM
Insane, I know you've said you're not updating the ver. 7 huds anymore, but could you add one thing?:



It shows shows something for the weapons except the knife...can you make it so it shows the knife icon when you have the knife out?

Same thing for the spade:


INsane_dod
12-12-2006, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Guyver
Insane, I know you've said you're not updating the ver. 7 huds anymore, but could you add one thing?:

I got busy again with a Job Application/study (still learning new things at the age of 50) .... so it may be a while before I have a poke and a fiddle :)

Guyver
12-13-2006, 12:47 PM
Thanks :)

INsane_dod
12-15-2006, 04:55 AM
Here you are old mate...

DOWNLOAD (http://www.dodbits.com/downloads/random/INsanes_VER7_HUD_Spade_knife_Fix.zip)

It's just a Zip package. It will overwrite the "HudPlayerStatusPanel.res" and the "HudCurrentWeapon.res" files and add two VTF files modified to show the spade and knife only.

Enjoy :D

Guyver
12-15-2006, 03:06 PM
Thanks, I can't test it right now since Steam is kaput. I'll test it as soon as it comes back online.:)

Wile E Coyote
12-15-2006, 03:55 PM
All of it is very good work.... insane has found his nitch in the DOD mod arena as I have mine.....

I still say the MOH V2 HUD is the best so far though! ;) I love that one! Re-installed Steam and immediately went to dodbits to pick up a fresh copy!

Guyver
12-17-2006, 06:56 PM
Just tried it in-game, It's a trade off I guess. It shows the knife & spade in the hud box, but on the class selection screen, it won't show them.:D

INsane_dod
12-18-2006, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by Guyver
Just tried it in-game, It's a trade off I guess. It shows the knife & spade in the hud box, but on the class selection screen, it won't show them.:D

Oh bugger :) Forgot about that part, I'll see what I can do about that, rename the VTF/ VMT and a res file change maybe :p

EDIT: Gee thanks Wile... how nice :D

Guyver
12-22-2006, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by INsane_dod
Oh bugger :) Forgot about that part, I'll see what I can do about that, rename the VTF/ VMT and a res file change maybe :p



Thanks.:D

INsane_dod
12-22-2006, 02:47 AM
Sorry, no joy with the files, so it's compromise or nothing :D

Guyver
12-22-2006, 02:06 PM
No problem, thanks for trying.:)

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