Not your usual Map Overview problem


StreamlineData
03-14-2006, 04:51 AM
I know how to make map overviews. Done them before, and they worked just fine.

However, for some reason, for one of my maps, it stopped working.

I followed this (http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Creating_Level_Overviews) over again. Put all the files in the correct places:

maps/dod_bouddha_b1.bsp
maps/dod_bouddha_b1.res
maps/dod_bouddha_b1.txt
materials/overviews/dod_bouddha_b1.vmt
materials/overviews/dod_bouddha_b1.vtf
resource/overviews/dod_bouddha_b1.txt

The VMT file looks like this:"UnlitGeneric"
{
"$translucent" "1"
"$basetexture" "overviews/dod_bouddha_b1"
"$vertexalpha" "1"
"$no_fullbright" "1"
"$ignorez" "1"
}

The "resource/overviews/dod_bouddha_b1.txt" file looks like this:"dod_bouddha_b1"
{
"material" "overviews/dod_bouddha_b1"
"pos_x" "-3836"
"pos_y" "3401"
"scale" "6.0"
"rotate" "0"
"zoom" "1.0"
}
As far as I can tell, everything looks fine.

So why is it that in-game the overview isn't showing up? I know the VTF is valide because it's worked before.

Help me, it's driving me crazy!!!

Sheeprider
03-14-2006, 09:00 AM
Hmm...
Maybe for the same reason that I´m not getting a map in any maps. Even the official maps...
Don´t really know what´s going on, but I´m too lazy to care about it.

cheese-sarnie
03-14-2006, 09:26 AM
i think it may have something to do with this:

http://justbi0.de/cb/

Tidjey
03-14-2006, 09:49 AM
ops

StreamlineData
03-14-2006, 11:28 AM
So... no solution to my problem?

Is it just me (and Sheeprider) that has this problem?

Am I missing something? Some file? Some line in the script?

Help!!!!

Ace_McGirk
03-14-2006, 02:37 PM
I have had this too, I have tried to isolate the cause and I came accross a funny thing.

if I had created the vtf with a certain map name, and then changed the name, it didnt work, created the vtf with the correct mapname all over again and seemed to work, mind you I have only tried this twice ,but so far it has worked.Might just try to deliberately make a bogus vtf to check theory.

StreamlineData
03-14-2006, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Ace_McGirk
I have had this too, I have tried to isolate the cause and I came accross a funny thing.

if I had created the vtf with a certain map name, and then changed the name, it didnt work, created the vtf with the correct mapname all over again and seemed to work, mind you I have only tried this twice ,but so far it has worked.Might just try to deliberately make a bogus vtf to check theory. Weird. I did change the filename after I made the VTF... but when I made other VTFs and changed their names, they still worked okay.

Might be some weird isolated problem. I suppose I'll try making the VTF with the correct name.. I'll let you know if it worked.

Thanks!

ultranew_b
03-14-2006, 04:43 PM
Not sure what is causing that problem, i've never encountered it myself.

I'm curious as to why you have a .res file though. I thought that was a HL1 thing? Between using man and pakrat you should be able to include any kind of file.

StreamlineData
03-14-2006, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by ultranew_b
Not sure what is causing that problem, i've never encountered it myself.

I'm curious as to why you have a .res file though. I thought that was a HL1 thing? Between using man and pakrat you should be able to include any kind of file. Pakrat won't run on my computer for some reason... I have .NET and such... still won't run.

What's "man" (in this case)?

ultranew_b
03-14-2006, 07:25 PM
Map Analyst:

http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Map_analyst

You have the last version of Pakrat?

Map Analyst is very similar to Pakrat. I would suggest you send the files to someone you know to have them Pakrat all the files into the bsp. It makes it much easier for server admins to set your map up. More servers = more ppl playing your map.

:)

[oap]Agent_S
03-15-2006, 02:08 AM
But dont forget Pakrat cant handle txt files so you map info and the overview txt file still need to be sent with the map.

StreamlineData
03-15-2006, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by [oap]Agent_S
But dont forget Pakrat cant handle txt files so you map info and the overview txt file still need to be sent with the map. Yep.. I've used man (nifty lil program!), packed all the files into my bsp.. and all I have to include with the map is the overview files now.

I still include a RES file with it anyway........ for the overview.

ultranew_b
03-15-2006, 06:35 AM
This .res file could possibly be part of your problem with the overview. You do not need a .res file for the overview. Sora has a working overview and no .res file.

:)

CoolHand
03-15-2006, 08:19 AM
res file only purpose is for server to know wich file to download. For all I know it will only download a bsp file. So if you don't make a res file ppl will not download it when connecting to a server that as autodownload turn on. So yes it is needed.

ultranew_b
03-15-2006, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by CoolHand
res file only purpose is for server to know wich file to download. For all I know it will only download a bsp file. So if you don't make a res file ppl will not download it when connecting to a server that as autodownload turn on. So yes it is needed.

MapANalyst and Pakrat include ALL the necessary files into the .bsp. No res file is needed, trust me.

:)

CoolHand
03-15-2006, 04:11 PM
Of course no res file is needed if it's in the bsp, that I know.

It's needed if one or more file ain't included in the bsp and the map in question here the overview is NOT included in the bsp.

Also res file is needed server side only, not client side.

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