BAR w/ folded bipod


Welshy
03-05-2006, 07:57 AM
I took a while to scan about for similar threads, but was relatively unsuccessful.

Anyways, what I miss most about the overall feel of the BAR in it's progression from 1.3 to Source is the look of the folded bipod. I'm not at all familiar with modelling and so on, but I don't imagine it is too hard of a job to add the extra polygons onto the default model. If it is a huge job, then I apologise, and excuse my ignorence.

So yea. If possible, a BAR with a bipod in the folded position would be great. Obviously the bipod wouldn't do anything, it would just sit there and make me feel like a god while I mow down the kraut :)

Thanks.

|ESF| 82ndfrag
03-05-2006, 04:45 PM
Yeah, I would really really love to see a nice BAR
with the bipod on it too....

I will love whoever makes it :D

Kieffer
03-05-2006, 10:17 PM
I second this! *Calls for Sproily* Get your ass moving!!

Pvt. Stephenson
03-05-2006, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Kieffer [5th RB]
I second this! *Calls for Sproily* Get your ass moving!!
I third that, we need slings on weapons to.

Kieffer
03-06-2006, 10:20 PM
too.

Yea, slings would be nice *Calls for whoever first made the sling*.

Forral
03-07-2006, 09:28 AM
The problem is slings have to be animated too. Unless somehow you could use the engine's rope mechanics for it.

I'll have a go at a bipod when I get my 3DSMax working or get familiar enough with SoftImage XSI (if nobody beats me to it :)).

Welshy
03-07-2006, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by [SLHR]Gen
The problem is slings have to be animated too. Unless somehow you could use the engine's rope mechanics for it.

I'll have a go at a bipod when I get my 3DSMax working or get familiar enough with SoftImage XSI (if nobody beats me to it :)).

Cool, you're a saint. Slings don't bother me particularly, so don't worry in the slightest about making one. A simple bipod will be perfect :D

DayofDfeat123
03-07-2006, 05:17 PM
That would be awsome if someone made a m1a1 carbine with a folding stock and a sling!

Jah_Bless
03-07-2006, 06:15 PM
Adding a BiPod to the BAR would add SO much to this weapon. Just imagine.......

Makabi Gafera
03-08-2006, 08:57 AM
yeah, more polygons to render. :p

Jah_Bless
03-08-2006, 10:43 AM
What's the use in adding a dead object to a weapon? The Bipod NEEDS to be active and usable. It would make up for the balance issues with the STG's huge clip and the BAR's tiny one and unreal reload time. It's like the character reloading the gun is taking his time...

Kieffer
03-08-2006, 03:13 PM
Unfolded BAR bipod? So when in prone it looks like they're using it?

Jah_Bless
03-08-2006, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Kieffer [5th RB]
Unfolded BAR bipod? So when in prone it looks like they're using it?

Why would you want it to look like they're using it? I want to set up my BAR for real....that and a flamethower

-BIG-T-
03-08-2006, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by invaliduser
l....that and a flamethower

Hey anyone playet ut'04?
They had this nuclear rocket you could get in hard to reach places, and you could get a rocket-eye-veiw! that'd be good in dod, it'd really solve some balance issues!

*ON TOPIC AND NOT SARCASTIC*
I'd love to see things like Bipods n slings on weapons
(unless they look like that Kar with a sling thats goind around, the animations on that are terrible!)

|ESF| 82ndfrag
03-08-2006, 06:59 PM
I really dont like slings tbh.....

Kinda weird when the w_model has no sling even though
you have one in first person view tinfoil

Welshy
03-09-2006, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by |ESF| 82ndfrag
I really dont like slings tbh.....

Kinda weird when the w_model has no sling even though
you have one in first person view tinfoil

Slings seem like too much effort to make for just a strap. And w_models don't have animations, so the sling would become solid.

Anyway. Invaliduser, if you don't think it is a good idea, don't bother posting. Nobody is forcing you to use a BAR with an unsuable bipod. It's just something that I think the weapon lacks visually.


Anyone made any progress on this yet?

PR0PEN
03-09-2006, 09:23 AM
Ok I have this:

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/651/sinttulo2copia1sb.jpg



I need a compiler for this and for my m1carbine (w/sling) and a animator for the m1carb. thanks

FIGUUR
03-09-2006, 09:36 AM
Finding someone to compile it won't be the big problem. Finding an animator for your carbine probably will be. There aren't many people who do that.

Welshy
03-09-2006, 09:42 AM
That's really awesome :D

I'm a total novice when it comes to the whole 3D and modelling process, but what needs to be done before it's ready?

PR0PEN
03-09-2006, 10:51 AM
COMPILED (by Me)



http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/5946/sinttulo1copia7ih.jpg


I need fix some bugs in tha hands and Gen are working in the bipod texture I think

-BIG-T-
03-09-2006, 12:17 PM
Propen, you are forgiven for you terrible mauser screenshots :p

I now love you again, that looks better than i could of every imagined it!:D :D

PR0PEN
03-09-2006, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by -BIG-T-
Propen, you are forgiven for you terrible mauser screenshots :p








http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/6941/sinttulo1copia3sf.jpg






xD

DayofDfeat123
03-09-2006, 02:03 PM
OMFG I LOVE YOU PROPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your probably the only one who makes models and that kind of stuff besides sproily on dods. All the very very very talented people make models for css and i hate it but you and sproily are just about the only ones.

|ESF| 82ndfrag
03-09-2006, 02:27 PM
Now thats a thing of pure beauty PR0PEN!!!

I <3 you :p

bigmob
03-09-2006, 03:16 PM
hehe i like these sleeves and hands, propen.

Maybe u can upload 'em?

Welshy
03-09-2006, 03:43 PM
Wow, you're working very quickly. Can't wait for the texturing to be finished. Thanks for all your work, by the way.

KansasRifleDiv.
03-09-2006, 05:24 PM
1.3 style.

Old school.

Love it.

Kieffer
03-09-2006, 09:18 PM
Can you put it on the default skin also? I prefer the default.

-BIG-T-
03-10-2006, 01:10 AM
Awww, you went to all the effort to please me propen :D

Looks like the origins have changed, is it just me?

PR0PEN
03-10-2006, 12:11 PM
0k, more updates

-reworked bipod body
-new uv map (very ugly)
-added more details


have some bugs yet but i CAN fix them.
I think that I can put a strap but.........I need an animator....



http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6258/pre14xo.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9308/pre0vv.jpg

EDITED

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/866/pre21nt.jpg

DayofDfeat123
03-10-2006, 01:30 PM
you should try to make the sling not like bent more rounded and smooth.

-BIG-T-
03-10-2006, 01:30 PM
Loving the sling, it takes the default, and makes it soo much better!
I love details like that, and good job propen, i like to see you working hard!

KansasRifleDiv.
03-10-2006, 04:54 PM
Y'know what'd be cool?

Bipods affected by physics!

Forral
03-10-2006, 07:06 PM
Skinning the bipod to match my B.A.R. now, I hope I can catch PR0PEN on MSN soon for any more UV updates :D.

Welshy
03-11-2006, 05:31 AM
Excellent stuff. Any idea when it's all gonna be finished?

PR0PEN
03-11-2006, 06:33 AM
HANDS BUGS FIXED

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7894/calles20020003copia5nz.jpg

Forral
03-11-2006, 05:31 PM
http://www.r2dev.net/forral/barbipod.jpg

Nearly done.

Lol PR0PEN, over 200fps? Maybe you should limit it with fps_max :P

Welshy
03-11-2006, 05:44 PM
Beautiful. I can't thank you enough!

Kieffer
03-11-2006, 05:47 PM
Can you seriously please do the same thing with the default?

Forral
03-11-2006, 05:52 PM
Close enough?

Same skin, changed the tint colour (default is greenish), also changed the brightness and contrast. Lowering the resolution would probably make it fit better too.

http://www.r2dev.net/forral/barbipoddefault.jpg

Kieffer
03-11-2006, 06:08 PM
yea, thanks a bunch

DayofDfeat123
03-11-2006, 07:05 PM
is what you should do is make the bipod down and get a good animater so when you walk it will like move around. If youve played battlefeild 2(animations are the fecking best!!!) the bipod on some of the guns are down and when you walk the slide around and stuff.

Forral
03-11-2006, 07:49 PM
We can dream, I havn't seen an animator around these parts for a while.

Kieffer
03-11-2006, 08:58 PM
You can make world models w/ bipods right? If not there is no point to this.

PR0PEN
03-12-2006, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by Kieffer [5th RB]
You can make world models w/ bipods right? If not there is no point to this.


Sorry, I dont know how make w_models...

-BIG-T-
03-12-2006, 10:02 AM
PLEASE release this, i want as many usless add ons as possible!

Welshy
03-12-2006, 05:05 PM
I'm itching to try it out. It's looking so good :)

FBOTheLiuetenant
03-13-2006, 06:26 PM
It would only take a little bit of animating if it isnt done already, but what if the bipod moved with recoil/reload anims?

KansasRifleDiv.
03-13-2006, 08:47 PM
thats what i wanted to see, too. :D

Welshy
03-15-2006, 11:22 AM
Inclusion of a w_model is not important. Please, please release the v_model because it looks amazing :)

Wile E Coyote
03-15-2006, 11:34 AM
Now THIS I like. A custom model with something subtatially different from the defaults, yet at the same time very historically accurate!

Forral
03-16-2006, 05:48 AM
I'll get the skins sent to PR0PEN asap so he can make the release.

Something seems to have gone funny in the compile I have, the shoot animation is a lot less bouncy and it actually makes it feel like there is less recoil. I guess you could say it's the added bipod weight :rolleyes:.

Sabre
03-16-2006, 05:55 AM
I can't imagine compiling a world model would be too difficult: hack on the bipod from the view model, twist and turn and scale to fit, tell it to use a lower res texture and then compile with the original BAR physics model. Shame that a world model skin isn't available for Forral's BAR anyway (hint hint? :) )

But yet the view model looks great. I can't wait to try it.

Welshy
03-18-2006, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Forral
I'll get the skins sent to PR0PEN asap so he can make the release.

Something seems to have gone funny in the compile I have, the shoot animation is a lot less bouncy and it actually makes it feel like there is less recoil. I guess you could say it's the added bipod weight :rolleyes:.

That's actually kinda cool. Let's all go poke PR0PEN so we can get this thing finished off :p

-BIG-T-
03-23-2006, 01:17 AM
any news? id hate for this project to drop off into the doom and death that is page 2

Guyver
03-23-2006, 01:51 AM
Man as much as I don't like useless attachments, I gotta say, that looks really good. Nice work so far.:)

Welshy
03-23-2006, 03:29 AM
PR0PEN is still waiting for Forral to fix a bug in the skin. I PMed Forral yesterday for a progress report but he hasn't got back to me.

Forral
03-23-2006, 07:06 AM
I just started a new job and I've been a bit ill, sorry :p

All finished, PR0PEN has it.

Welshy
03-23-2006, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by Forral
I just started a new job and I've been a bit ill, sorry :p

All finished, PR0PEN has it.

No probs. Hope you're feeling better now.

Welshy
03-31-2006, 05:44 AM
I don't want this thread to die, so near to completion.

I understand PR0PEN has been busy, but tbh I'd accept the BAR as it is, bugs or not.

PR0PEN
03-31-2006, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by Welshy
I don't want this thread to die, so near to completion.

I understand PR0PEN has been busy, but tbh I'd accept the BAR as it is, bugs or not.


Hey! Im alive! xD

It is the last bug, but I cant contact with Forral.....

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2112/copiadebug9zx.jpg

PR0PEN
03-31-2006, 07:07 AM
BAR W/BIPOD DEFAULT SKIN FINISHED



http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/8629/df8vw.jpg


waiting to Forrals skin for Release ;)

Sabre
03-31-2006, 08:12 AM
Looks brilliant!

Although this is one model that I can't forgive you and Forral for if there's no world model for it...

Forral
03-31-2006, 10:59 AM
Sorry PR0PEN I've been working 11 hours a day for two weeks, going back to part-time on the 3rd. :rolleyes:

Hope to catch you on MSN soon, I'll be adding an alpha map and making a few skin edits (it's pretty much going to be a v2) aswell if you don't mind.

Welshy
04-05-2006, 08:34 AM
How's this going? Almost there?

DayofDfeat123
04-18-2006, 08:37 AM
is this going to complete soon??

FBOTheLiuetenant
04-19-2006, 09:16 AM
One question and I'll dl immediatly either way, but is the bipod animated?

Kieffer
04-19-2006, 02:43 PM
Come on PROPEN, stop being lazy and release this!

Falke
04-19-2006, 03:02 PM
patience is everything i guess

YouCantEatShoes
04-22-2006, 04:22 AM
Seriously what's the status on this thing, there's only so many pairs of underwear I can change into before I soil all of 'em.

Welshy
04-22-2006, 02:06 PM
As far as I've gathered, PR0PEN wants to use a second skin on the bipodded BAR, having finished it with the default skin.

I'd just be happy to see it with the default skin. PR0PEN must be busy or something...

YouCantEatShoes
04-23-2006, 06:22 PM
As far as a world model goes, where does PR0PEN stand on that? Or is that a no go? I really don't mind either way.

YouCantEatShoes
04-27-2006, 01:33 AM
FTW??

Falke
04-27-2006, 11:49 AM
i can't wait any longer!! I'm having dreams saying over and over BAR BAR BAR BAR!

Welshy
04-27-2006, 03:49 PM
I did send PR0PEN another pm a couple of days ago. Awaiting a response.

Poor guy, he must think I'm stalking him or something.

YouCantEatShoes
04-30-2006, 06:26 PM
This is becoming quite gay...

Pvt. Stephenson
04-30-2006, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by YouCantEatShoes
This is becoming quite gay...
How come no one in this forum has any pateince, people have lives, they go to work, of course its gonna take a while. Quit your complaning while your ahead.

YouCantEatShoes
05-01-2006, 01:08 PM
How come no one in this forum has any pateince, people have lives, they go to work, of course its gonna take a while. Quit your complaning while your ahead.

LoL k noob...

Uhm no.

Ska Wars
05-01-2006, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by YouCantEatShoes
LoL k noob...

Uhm no.

LoL K

Goodbye.

Forral
05-01-2006, 04:11 PM
I'm not sure why it hasn't been released yet, there was just one part where the skin was too bright as far as I could tell.

Hopefully I'll catch up with PR0PEN soon.

Volvulus
05-01-2006, 04:45 PM
oooo can't wait!

Loco
05-01-2006, 04:52 PM
Page 6

1st, 2nd, 3rd posters all binned and then Sid James to boot!!!! :p

That's gotta be a record, I'm saving a screenie of the page for future reference. :D

Welshy
05-25-2006, 06:30 PM
Is there any hope for this project, or should we just give up on it?

Volvulus
05-25-2006, 09:27 PM
Never give up, it will happen(cross' fingers)

Pvt.Crowe
05-25-2006, 10:20 PM
Oh Welshy, you just HAD to bring it up did'nt you? Just when i had forgotten about the sweetness that this would have been....

Editor321
05-27-2006, 10:50 AM
Whats the situation?

Somebody wants a folded Bipod on the BAR?

Any particular bipod or bar base?

Let me know and i could have it for today...

Cazee
05-29-2006, 06:12 AM
folded i think :D

Wile E Coyote
05-29-2006, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Editor321
Whats the situation?

Somebody wants a folded Bipod on the BAR?

Any particular bipod or bar base?

Let me know and i could have it for today... Well it was a folded bipod. It looked done. It was fully skinned. Then suddenly it just dissapeared off the planet. I think the ran into compiling problems or something like that.

Welshy
05-29-2006, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Editor321
Whats the situation?

Somebody wants a folded Bipod on the BAR?

Any particular bipod or bar base?

Let me know and i could have it for today...

Ok, basically here is my request:

The current BAR model doesn't have a bipod, which is something I miss from the old DoD 1.3 model. So I asked if a folded up version of the bipod just be attached to the default model. It didn't have to do anything, it would just be there for looks.

If you would be willing to take a bash at this I would be forever grateful. PR0PEN started modelling, and to all effects, he and Forral finished and skinned the model, but it never got released.

So there you go. Please have a go if you could :)

Pvt.Crowe
05-29-2006, 10:59 AM
I was also following this release because there was a default bar version being made. My cards not great, so i was stoked about that...

User ID 27098
05-29-2006, 01:15 PM
I just wish Propen would come out and tell us why he hasn't released it, I mean I see him posting on here quite often. It wouldn't hurt him to give us an update... oh well.

Editor321
05-29-2006, 09:00 PM
http://images6.theimagehosting.com/dod_kalt0000.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

Before you n00bs complain about FOV or crap of the like, take a look from a different angle, and know, that I'm not making it any smaller :)

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/dod_kalt0001.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)


You guys like it?

User ID 27098
05-29-2006, 09:28 PM
Hey Editor, guess who?

Haha, it's me Shoes from the DoDCC forums.

Heh, anyway just wanna say nice job again. I just don't think the iron sight should be upright like that. Otherwise this thing looks pretty tight, when do you plan on releasing?

Staker500
05-30-2006, 10:00 AM
nice i would get it with the ironsight but would look better without, nice job

Black Lotus
05-31-2006, 09:31 AM
zomg the fov is total garbage.:rolleyes:

Welshy
05-31-2006, 10:30 AM
Editor, I love it. Not so fond of the Iron Sight but the bipod is tight. I agree with Staker, I would use it if you released it as it is, but I would prefer it without the IS.

Thanks for the quick response :)

DayofDfeat123
05-31-2006, 12:34 PM
lol i like the iron sight! And I hate the fov crap valve put in. They should have in the opitions to turn it off. Thank god for you editor 123 and kiminio or whatever for these awsome models/compiles for dods!!

Volvulus
05-31-2006, 03:17 PM
yeah, whats FOV?

Editor321
05-31-2006, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by DayofDfeat123
Thank god for you editor 123 and kiminio or whatever for these awsome models/compiles for dods!!

Thats 3.2.1 Bub :P

I'll be releasing w/ the sight down.

DayofDfeat123
05-31-2006, 05:21 PM
lol srry but I like the sights. np awsome ethier way.

Welshy
05-31-2006, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Editor321
Thats 3.2.1 Bub :P

I'll be releasing w/ the sight down.

*Bows down in worship*

Series of Dashes
06-30-2006, 02:07 AM
Since the new update, it just doesn't work anymore. :(

Editor321
07-01-2006, 11:39 AM
works fine for me

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