[WIP] Blued k98


-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
12-19-2005, 12:53 PM
Based on the newly issued k98, that came with blued metal.


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Reference, worn bolt knob:

Multiple Wounds
12-19-2005, 01:36 PM
A bit too blue if you ask me :p

Guyver
12-19-2005, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Multiple Wounds
A bit too blue if you ask me :p Yes, it's too extreme.

$harky
12-19-2005, 04:36 PM
Never heard of the blue k98 but maybe thats for a reson, lol, bit too blue tone it down:D

-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
12-19-2005, 04:48 PM
Thought you guys would say that, heh, I lowerd the saturation levels, was a bit to blue. Also keep in mind that HLMV shows colors brighter than reality in game.I put up new pictures with first person view in game. You can see the blue barlely stands out. Any less and the blue will hardly show.


Trp. Jed
12-19-2005, 04:55 PM
You know, you can do this by using a specular map with a blue tint - it'll look much more realistic.

-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
12-19-2005, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
You know, you can do this by using a specular map with a blue tint - it'll look much more realistic.

How do I go about doing that using CS2? Use a blue channel? Tutorials some where? Wiki boards are hard to understand for medium to novice skills.

Trp. Jed
12-19-2005, 05:59 PM
Well in short, you leave the base texture as is. You can then take it, make it grey scale and use that to make a alpha type map where white should be the most reflective parts and black non-reflective.

Using that you create a specular effect telling it to use your greyscale image as the mask. Depending on the grey level, it will reflect more or less of the environment map. You can tint the reflection blue in the VMT.

I must confess I can't think of a good example off the top of my head but take a look at some of the HL2 weapons like the shotgun. That uses a specular channel to make parts of it reflect the world around it.

Basically you would keep the base DoD:S texture to give the basic metal appearance and the specular channel gives realistic reflections. Careful blue tinting of the specualar channel will give the blued metal effect.

Deceiver
12-19-2005, 06:47 PM
That model looks like it's out of a cartoon hehe. Unless that's just what DoDS looks like on low =0

-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
12-19-2005, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by deceiver
That model looks like it's out of a cartoon hehe. Unless that's just what DoDS looks like on low =0

It's low res.

Originally posted by Trp. Jed
Basically you would keep the base DoD:S texture to give the basic metal appearance and the specular channel gives realistic reflections. Careful blue tinting of the specualar channel will give the blued metal effect.

Ok I think I'm getting closer, made it grayscale and worked with an alpha and clipping mask, here is the result, thanks for the advise Jed, these are high res ;) .


Trp. Jed
12-20-2005, 06:39 AM
Yeah, that looks loads better. :)

Jibba-Jabba
12-20-2005, 07:33 AM
It's true :) Way to take some good advice!

Multiple Wounds
12-20-2005, 01:39 PM
Dude that looks awsome now!!

SilentSteps
12-20-2005, 02:09 PM
The edit looks MUCH better than the original.

Kieffer
12-20-2005, 02:45 PM
Now, retexture the wood and it will be amazing! Id definatley download.

-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
12-20-2005, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Zero724
Now, retexture the wood and it will be amazing! Id definatley download.

On it's way.:)

-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
12-21-2005, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by $harky
Never heard of the blue k98 but maybe thats for a reson, lol, bit too blue tone it down:D

The k98 came fresh off the assembly line into the hands of the german military, with a black gray finish that was blued to prevent rusting. As time went on the finish would wear off, and you would see progressivly different hues of blueing.

You probably never knew this because most of the pictures on the net are of very old and poor quality condition rifles, that appear all silver or gray metal, and have been in warehouses for years under poor conditions.

Dr. Crawford
12-21-2005, 05:38 PM
Now this piece of work of yours, I'm liking.

Kieffer
12-21-2005, 06:22 PM
Awesome! Just make sure the wood texture is from a real picture ya know. Not the crappy cherry red stuff.

-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
12-21-2005, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Crawford
Now this piece of work of yours, I'm liking.

Hey what can I say, I'm a noob with source files. Made alot of 1.3 skins, but just relearning this stuff all over, I try.

Off on vacation for a couple weeks, so you wont see a finished product untill the end of Jan., might put up the scoped version with it.

Wile E Coyote
01-01-2006, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
......Using that you create a specular effect telling it to use your greyscale image as the mask......
Okay this is the part where I get lost. How do you / what do you use to create the specular effect? I know how to make a normal (bump) map, but is there a simple tutorial on the specular effect?

Trp. Jed
01-02-2006, 10:03 AM
As I said before, best thing to do is look at the VMTs for some of the HL2 v_model weapons. I think the shotgun uses one.

Basically you define the specular map in the VMT and tell it what the source is - be it the alpha channel of the base texture of a sperate image.

-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
04-04-2006, 11:21 PM
Ok it's been a while since I updated this, been experimenting with some wood skins, want to get this out soon, still in progress though.



http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8119/blue9844qa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

FBOTheLiuetenant
04-05-2006, 05:29 AM
Very nice, this skin has gotten a must use from me. As far as rare(er) models of the K98 are concerned, does anyone know of any good pictures of a K98 with a bakelite stock?

Brutal
04-05-2006, 08:39 AM
wood texture is nice but looking rather bland at the moment. Maybe add some wear and tear and a more defined light source and it will be perfect.;)

-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
04-05-2006, 11:33 AM
Yeah, I was aiming for the new issued look, instead of the used and abused look, my problem with the wood is I get it on the gun and it looks to grainy, and un natural in the game. Needs some more work, I might put the stock wood model for download in the meantime.

FBOTheLiuetenant
04-05-2006, 11:44 AM
I'll work on a wood for it if you want some help

-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
04-05-2006, 11:59 AM
Hey if you got some skills with wood skins your welcome to give it a shot, thanks. I will share the credits with you. What do you need from me?, give me a P.M.

FBOTheLiuetenant
04-05-2006, 07:25 PM
Hows this for wood?

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k98wood3sb.jpg

|ESF| 82ndfrag
04-05-2006, 07:57 PM
That would be real noice if it was darker wood, you
should change the color and release both FBO ;)

btw- Are you usin my Josef Reskin??? :p

FBOTheLiuetenant
04-05-2006, 08:06 PM
Why of course Im using your Josef, I personally like the lighter wood, looks newer, but I knew it wouldnt be to everyone's liking so I am in the process of making a darker one. Oh and I tried blueing the metal, I think I got good results. Oh btw that pic is acutally darker than ingame, if that gives you an idea of how light the wood is.

http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blued2kx.jpg

FBOTheLiuetenant
04-05-2006, 08:24 PM
Heres the latest

Light (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k98light8ba.jpg)

Medium (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k98medium0sn.jpg)

Darkest (http://img320.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k98dark4vn.jpg)

|ESF| 82ndfrag
04-06-2006, 01:54 PM
Sweeeet..... I think I've been using the same Kar98
for like 3 months :p

Will definately get my download ;)

Wile E Coyote
04-06-2006, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by |ESF| 82ndfrag
I think I've been using the same Kar98 for like 3 months OH NOES!!!!!

(sorry :) )

|ESF| 82ndfrag
04-06-2006, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Wile E Coyote
OH NOES!!!!!

(sorry :) )

LMAO :p

Kieffer
04-06-2006, 05:22 PM
I use all default weapons.

-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
04-06-2006, 11:38 PM
Ok I played around with the origional wood skin, and added much more characture to it. I came up with a darker varnished look, added some more grain to it, and removed the red cherry color to the grain, looks more like stock issued. The only adjustment I am going to make is the color needs to be a bit browner.

The metal is blued with a speculiar lighting to give it more depth and realism.

I think I am going to release this for now after color adjustment, will have it in downloads in a couple days.



FBOTheLiuetenant
04-07-2006, 05:30 AM
The metal looks sweet, think I could use it with the wood I posted?

-=PHX=- WW2-WARDOG
04-09-2006, 06:28 PM
Ok see what you guys think of this for wood, I do not have a 3D editor, so I did the best I could with it, It's a mottled oiled look.






Originally posted by FBOTheLiuetenant
The metal looks sweet, think I could use it with the wood I posted?

Let me get mine out, then you can do what you want with the metal, as long as I get credited.

FBOTheLiuetenant
04-13-2006, 08:26 AM
Nevermind, I'd rather try to make my own. But thanks for the permission, its looking real nice

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