African American hackjob....


Private-88
05-20-2003, 04:22 PM
Ok guys heres the deal.......im making new models of african american fighters in ww2.

It will go as follow, the american sgt. will be african american, the british gunner will be african american, and the german sniper will be african american.

I - MAY - add an afro on the amerincan sgt, but this is not official, but i saw pictures of them with afro's in pictures.

The guy in the american team, will be known as the afro american.

So guys keep checking back here for updated pictures.

05-20-2003, 04:32 PM
german sniper, african american

lol

Private-88
05-20-2003, 04:35 PM
O yeah also.........where there army regulations in the German army against facial hair?

Because i was thinkging of putting sideburns or goatee on the sniper just to make him look better, because im not that good at detail, and i want to add as much as possible to the appearence.

05-20-2003, 04:35 PM
What about a Indian SS Pack ..There were Indian SS squads.. I have some resources.. :D

Private-88
05-20-2003, 04:39 PM
Well black and Indian same thing...........im just doing a few dark skinned model pack.

05-20-2003, 04:39 PM
I remember someone told me before that there was a Japanese man in the Waffen-SS. I'll look through some books and see if i can find anything. Pretty interesting

Private-88
05-20-2003, 04:42 PM
iv seen pictures of chinese fighters on D-Day taken prisoner

05-20-2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Private-88
Well black and Indian same thing...........im just doing a few dark skinned model pack.

As in "Indian SS Pack i ment Turbans, Beards etc etc, didnt mean for u to do it but it may give some others something to have a shot at.. :D

I would love to see it.. :)

Private-88
05-20-2003, 04:45 PM
No sorry cant do it........i cant model, i can just skin.

05-20-2003, 04:45 PM
Im not suprised, there were a SS group in Britain, india (My fav :P) and ..other places ...

Private-88
05-20-2003, 04:49 PM
Yes well there was White fighters in the japanese army.

http://patriot.net/~jstevens/Isiu-Island/IMAGES/photo2.460x380.jpg

But i cant do it, cause it would require new models, im just going to finish the african american pack first.

05-20-2003, 04:57 PM
is that a joke.... was it the war of the cream puffs.

05-20-2003, 04:59 PM
that's not a WWII era photo.............

Nikolaisqp
05-20-2003, 05:14 PM
i thought the nazis were racist so wouldn't that rule out any black people from their army.

Jack Handey
05-20-2003, 05:22 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there weren't any blacks in the German Military, for one, how many blacks live in Germany? 3? Two, It'd be frowned upon by the higher ups.

Toejam Football
05-20-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Private-88
Yes well there was White fighters in the japanese army.

http://patriot.net/~jstevens/Isiu-Island/IMAGES/photo2.460x380.jpg

But i cant do it, cause it would require new models, im just going to finish the african american pack first.

lol those are reenactors.

05-20-2003, 05:33 PM
there was a british ss squad in the geman army aswell
i watched something on discovery about it

05-20-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Toejam Football
lol those are reenactors.

thats what i thought too ;)

05-20-2003, 05:54 PM
In the US Military, Blacks and Whites were segregated......

Jack Handey
05-20-2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Foureyes
In the US Military, Blacks and Whites were segregated......


True dat.

Richthofen
05-20-2003, 06:03 PM
^ agrees

Yeah I really don't think there was a black guy in the german army...kind of impossible to be african-american when you live in germany

Die Schlampfe
05-20-2003, 06:04 PM
No offense to your work or anything, but if you want to be historically accurate, the only way for this to work would be to add American or British black people.

Now before anyone calls me a racist, I'm just stating historical fact. The German Army was 99.9% white, there may have been a .1% of them somewhere that wasn't. Due to the leadership of the country at that time, its highly doubtful that a colored person (of anything other than white) would have even been considered for enlistment in the German army, much less be a sniper in said army.

Not bashing your work or anything but I'm just stating what I've learned about Germany and its army in WWII, and it just doesn't quite fit to add black people to the Wehrmacht (Heer).

Richthofen
05-20-2003, 06:11 PM
::clap clap::

05-20-2003, 06:45 PM
I don't believe you would ever see a black regiment out on the field, they were mostly assigned to engineering, refueling, and supply stuff. i believe there was one african-american regiment, but it was all black. so as a suggestion i think you should make an all african-american pack, rather than just a few classes. that would be more historically correct.

Veg
05-20-2003, 06:46 PM
Heh congratualtions on the worst idea ever, I'll give it to you that you are one confused guy. Putting blacks in for germans, you have hail hitler in your name (88), and putting up re-enactors like they fought for Japan. Go for it man but this has got to be one of the silliest things I have ever seen.

gabagoo
05-20-2003, 06:49 PM
wheres my iraqi SS soldiers :mad:


:D :D :D

05-20-2003, 09:22 PM
I'll hand it to you, this gave me a good laugh.

Make the Buffalo Soldiers, as the Germans called them, for the US, and that would make sense. All need to be black, though. There wasn't any mixing of soldiers in the US army...the only time they mixed was during training.

MF_DOOM
05-20-2003, 10:01 PM
Sources about the Afro-German experience during the Third Reich

http://www.ushmm.org/research/library/bibliography/blacks/right.htm

http://www.holocaust-history.org/questions/blacks.shtml

Excerpt - The biracial Rhineland Germans fathered by black (or mixed black) French Colonial occupation troops after World War I constituted the largest group of African Germans. It is commonly accepted that the Rhineland African-Germans roughly numbered between five hundred and eight hundred. No exact figures exist for other African Germans who were scattered throughout the Reich. A conservative estimate would be that the combined total for all African Germans was about a thousand.


Though there were relatively few blacks in Germany, Hitler discriminated between black and white prisoners of war. Black soldiers captured during World War II were separated from their units and shot.

There were integrated units, but mostly went in the hierarchy of the white officer and black privates.

And lets end the ignorance with this.

http://www.coax.net/people/lwf/ww2.htm

All you ever need to know about the contributions of african american men and women to the united states during world war2.

And if you need visuals, go here.

http://www.ihffilm.com/ihf/r704.html

African-American Medal of Honor Recipients WW2
(1942-1945)

http://www.buffalosoldier.net/WW11AfroAmericanMedalofHonorRecipients.htm

all you need to know.

http://store1.yimg.com/I/ihf_1741_2365204

African American Troops’ Strength during World War II

Distribution of total strength and personnel of technical services and combat arms on December 31, 1944

Quartermaster 221,211

Engineers 136,836

Transportation 85,025

Air Corps 69,776

Infantry 54,189

Ordnance 29,160

Medical 19,929

Signal 15,051

Field Artillery 11,136

Chemical Warfare 5,092

05-20-2003, 10:27 PM
I have a book with some unpublished photos in them. Pictured are two colonial soldiers of the French African Division. Description reads,

"Colonial troops captured by soldiers of the 7th Panzer Division. Both these African men are wearing French greatcoats and French steel helmets. Some of these captured soldiers would be offered the chance to enlist to fight in North Africa with Rommel's Afrika Korps. Although these men had fought with courage in the face of overwhelming odds, they were so badly trained and under-equipped that they could do nothing else than temporarily hinder the German advance. A year later, in the deserts of North Africa, these troops would experience the same problem, this time fighting against the British."

I don't know what the captured soldiers would wear. Might be interesting to have them wear the French gear. The helmet looks a little nifty in a, Luke I am your father, sort of way.

Sorry, can't show pics. But I'll try to find them online if I can.

Buck Compton
05-20-2003, 11:00 PM
I've read somewhere that the allies captured two or three KOREANS in German uniforms on D-Day. As I recall, they had been fighting for the Japanese and were captured by the Soviets during the 1939 border skirmishes between Japan and the Soviet Union. They then fought for the Soviets and were captured by the Germans on the Eastern Front, and they wound up as part of the defenses at Normandy. Rather strange odyssey.

E.B. Sledge
05-20-2003, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Private-88
the british gunner will be african american, and the german sniper will be african american.



PC whipped? ;)



i don't want to turn this into a discussion on semantics, but i've noticed there are a lot of people who consider anyone who is black an african american. when really its just a term for a black citizen of the U.S. (and a superfluous term at that).

"white" is still an appropriate term for racial classification, so there should be nothing taboo or wrong with the term "black".

as far as this segregated troops nonsense is concerned...

segregation was a (rediculous) policy in the U.S. military during WWII, but at one point Ike made the decision to call upon blacks in supporting units to volunteer for combat duty. the army was in dire need for reinforcements when he made the decision. so some 10,000 black volunteers were integrated into white units with relatively good results.

though given the scope of the second world war, this integration was of little significance. so seeing whites and blacks fight alongside one another was extremely rare.

ender
05-21-2003, 12:23 AM
And you know what's even sillier than your idea. The fact that all you posted was basically "hey, im gonna do a skin".

If someone posted "hey, im gonna make this map" in mapping they would be flamed to death and the thread would be locked.

05-21-2003, 12:36 AM
I heard some foreign troops that were captured by the germans were made to fight for them, but i don't think hey would let them be snipers. Some were put in Omaha beach to man the machine guns with a german officer holding a gun on their backs.

It would be interesting though, to make a Tuskeegee Airmen. Not sure if its spelled correctly but these pilots were one of the best.

Arsenal
05-21-2003, 12:51 AM
here are some pics of Indian troops in German service in WW2.

http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/orwell/149/india.htm

Also there was a British SS unit called the British Free Corps, my clan is named after them. BFC|Arsenal. There is a good book on the tropic called Renegades: Hitlers Englishmen by Adrian Weale.

Die Schlampfe
05-21-2003, 04:35 AM
I stand corrected MF_Doom, thank you for the info. Never heard of black soldiers in the German army before so this will be a history lesson for sure.

05-21-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by PoisontheWell
I don't believe you would ever see a black regiment out on the field, they were mostly assigned to engineering, refueling, and supply stuff. i believe there was one african-american regiment, but it was all black. so as a suggestion i think you should make an all african-american pack, rather than just a few classes. that would be more historically correct.

I really doubt that the 88 in his name is a reference to Nazism.

symptom
05-21-2003, 01:20 PM
I really, really do not like this idea. And I certainly didn't expect it from a Private-88.

Trp. Jed
05-21-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Private-88
the british gunner will be african american

I didnt know Leroy (http://www.speedfreak.com/misc/SAS/bren_6.jpg) had a brother... :)

- Jed

05-21-2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by ShiFFty
As in "Indian SS Pack i ment Turbans, Beards etc etc, didnt mean for u to do it but it may give some others something to have a shot at.. :D

I would love to see it.. :)
Originally posted by Private-88
No sorry cant do it........i cant model, i can just skin.

If you was to make an afro, wouldnt u have to model it as in the "round" shape etc? ...i dunno i'm most proberly wrong

05-21-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Arsenal
here are some pics of Indian troops in German service in WW2.

http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/orwell/149/india.htm

Also there was a British SS unit called the British Free Corps, my clan is named after them. BFC|Arsenal. There is a good book on the tropic called Renegades: Hitlers Englishmen by Adrian Weale.

Yup, British Free Corps (BFC) later renamed "Britisches Freikorps"; strength: 30 - including 3 Canadians, 3 South Africans, 3 Australians, and a solitary New Zealander)

"Foreign" Waffen SS Divisions:

* 7th SS-FREIWILLIGEN-GEBIRGS DIVISION Prinz Eugen ( ethnic Germans )
* 11th SS Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier Division Nordland
* 13th WAFFEN-GEBIRGS DIVISION DER SS Handschar (Croatian Nr.1 )
* 14th WAFFEN-GRENADIER DIVISION DER SS (Ukrainian Nr. 1)
* 15th WAFFEN-GRENADIER DIVISION DER SS (Latvian Nr. 1)
* 19th WAFFEN-GRENADIER DIVISION DER SS (Latvian Nr 2)
* 20th WAFFEN-GRENADIER DIVISION DER SS (estonian Nr. 1 )
* 23rd WAFFEN-GEBIRGS DIVISION DER SS Kama (Croatian Nr. 2)
* 23rd SS FREIWILLIGEN PANZERGRENADIER DIVISION "Nederland"
* 25th WAFFEN-GRENADIER DIVISION DER SS ( Hungarian Nr. 1) Hunyadi
* 26th WAFFEN-GRENADIER DIVISION DER SS ( Hungarian Nr. 2) Hungaria
* 28th SS- FREIWILLIGEN-PANZERGRENADIER-DIVISION Wallonien
* 29th WAFFEN-GRENADIER DIVISION DER SS (russian Nr. 1)
* 30th WAFFEN-GRENADIER DIVISION DER SS (white-russian Nr. 1)
* 31st SS-FREIWILLIGEN-GRENADIER DIVISION (Hungary and Slovakia)
* 33rd FREIWILLIGEN GRENADIER DIVISION der SS (Hungarian Nr. 3)
* 33rd WAFFEN-GRENADIER DIVISION DER SS Charlemagne ( french )
* 34th WAFFEN-GRENADIER DIVISION DER SS Landstorm Nederland

Indian Volunteers:
http://www.photosammler.de/Foto/Heeresfotos/uniformen/wh2166.jpg
http://www.photosammler.de/Foto/Heeresfotos/uniformen/wh2163.jpg

Sorry i may have littered the thread, but it didnt look like it was going anywhere :)

Russ. Conscript
05-21-2003, 01:54 PM
This is all very very interesting. we need the history forums back :(

and i think its awesome the history of blacks in the US military. i never hear much about it though.... there has to be a good movie based on it somewhere..

and would have NEVER expected there to be any black people at all in the German military from 1939-1944.. i mean, i figured that Hitler would have stopped such a thing from happening, considering all of the races he loathed, other than white. but i guess crazier things have happened... O_o

05-21-2003, 02:17 PM
Actually, black soldiers in the US army gave a good accounting of themselves when they fought the Germans in WW1. The German soldiers respected their tenacity. I even have a book, can't remember which, that details a black unit coming into contact with the Germans in WW2. The Germans, again, respected the black soldiers fighting in the US army, as they gave a good accounting of themselves.

I will say that I did not know there were Germans, of African descent, living in Germany, during the period of WW2. Still, they never served in the German army.

I've also read of asian americans who fought against the Germans, had the Germans thinking they were actually Japanese who had now joined the US. :D I don't know if that's true or not, and can't remember the source.

The 442nd Regimental Combat Team, composed of Asian Americans, was the most highly awarded unit in WW2, if I remember correctly.

Private-88
05-21-2003, 03:08 PM
First of all i have to say this, the 88 in my name is NOTHING at all to do with any sort of racial things. Back when i got 1.3 i had the name pvt. Burt-----Burt being my last name----- and then my brother changed it to Private-88, and i asked why and he said it just sounded neat, so it has stuck ever since. When im in a clan that requires you use your last name, i go back the the burt.


NOW TO


E.B. Sledge - I call them African American, because i saw a guy get pretty much yelled at for refering to a black person as "black"
So i just try to stay out of troble and call them what they want, and do the right thing by not get mad when they refer to me as "stupid white boy" so they can learn there wrong.

symptom - what do you mean you didnt expect from me?

Trp. Jed - http://www.6th-airborne.org/resources/1102a.jpg

ShiFFty - im just going to draw fuzz on there heads, might look alright.

05-21-2003, 03:14 PM
* 13th WAFFEN-GEBIRGS DIVISION DER SS Handschar (Croatian Nr.1 )

SS Handschar where Bosnian muslims, not Croatians.

My brother in law who is Bosnian muslim knows some old fellow who was in SS Handschar and they were all Bosnian muslims

Trp. Jed
05-21-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Private-88
Trp. Jed - http://www.6th-airborne.org/resources/1102a.jpg


Well apart from that its a re-enactor page its not historically inaccurate.

Stephen Abrose wrote an account of a Black Jamaican who trained with the airborne in preperation for Operation Pegasus. He was nicknamed "Chalky" by his comrades but apart from that reference to him during training I've never found out if he actually took part in the mission.

As for my model, well I figured that as the British weren't segregated a bit of racial diversity was a good thing - and I couldnt think of anything better for scaring the bejesus out of the SS than a 6ft 2 250lb black guy with a red beret and a Bren gun. :D

- Jed

05-21-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Matthijs
SS Handschar where Bosnian muslims, not Croatians.

My brother in law who is Bosnian muslim knows some old fellow who was in SS Handschar and they were all Bosnian muslims

Right, sorry m8 :)

Sturmtruppe
05-21-2003, 04:16 PM
i can just picture it now.... "Geddat flag, lawg!"

05-21-2003, 04:21 PM
well are you going to make them or not? And that afro idea is just retarded.

Private-88
05-21-2003, 04:37 PM
They are being worked on, and the afro is not retarded.

You notice the germans hair in DOD, there hair is at least 2 inches long, an african american's hair if 2 inches long would be bushing like an afro.

Therefore not retarded.

gabagoo
05-21-2003, 04:49 PM
you know what hitler always said:rolleyes:
"once you go black you never go back":D

Private-88
05-21-2003, 04:58 PM
Ok before you flame.........here it is, now they will look mush nicer when finsihed, but i had to rig this one up real quick.

The nose looks a little messed up, but it will be fixed.

Private-88
05-21-2003, 05:34 PM
sorry guys i will fix the googly eyes and everything, dont worry.

But is there anything i should add to the models?

05-21-2003, 05:37 PM
omg. im really sorry but that looks like a dead end road with spikes on it. Wow... i'd start with recoloring the other faces and changing some proportions n stuff.

Private-88
05-21-2003, 05:47 PM
I did recolor the face, and like i said thats just a quick job of it.

05-21-2003, 05:52 PM
... you killed him!!! I think you should try again its a bit.. ugly :(

Private-88
05-21-2003, 05:55 PM
o come on bro...........

gabagoo
05-21-2003, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Private-88
Ok before you flame.........here it is, now they will look mush nicer when finsihed, but i had to rig this one up real quick.

The nose looks a little messed up, but it will be fixed.
rofl @ that pic:D

Private-88
05-21-2003, 06:36 PM
Dont be hating..............honestly does he not look like an african american though?

Be honest, he does look quite good, just the skins need to be improved.

Private-88
05-21-2003, 06:39 PM
ok guys, draw a few things on this face to help me out........this is what i have already.

You can see that i added some blood to on the left side of his face.

Private-88
05-21-2003, 06:41 PM
i need help with the nose.

05-21-2003, 06:47 PM
im not sure, but im pretty sure there were regulations against black people in the german army ie: superior aryan race thing goin on in germany at the time... ohh yea, and the skin is not good at all.

05-21-2003, 06:47 PM
dude.. i've tried to be nice about it. It sucks. im sorry but it looks like ms-paint.

Private-88
05-21-2003, 06:49 PM
HAHAHA it is MSpaint man, thats all i can use.

Doesnt everyone here use MSpaint for that stuff?


Well feel free to add anything.

Russ. Conscript
05-21-2003, 06:52 PM
no man we use Photoshop. paint wont help u out at all dude...

the black guy u made looks like a muppet.. O_o

Private-88
05-21-2003, 06:58 PM
o ok well i didnt know............

DANZA
05-21-2003, 07:15 PM
THATS the best skin ever. USING it now 4 serious
OK BYE

The-Messenjah
05-21-2003, 07:17 PM
hmm get fotoshop. it will help :P dude, that skin is pretty bad... get fotoshop and do some stuff to it. then it may be worth posting.

keep on trying though, you will get it eventually :D

Private-88
05-21-2003, 07:21 PM
Ok guys i have a problem, i opened it in Adobe PhotoDeluxe Home Edition 4.0, and after i am done everything and i go to import it back in the model, it says error loading bmp texture, i dont know why either.

Any help? i can make it look way better when i use Adobe PhotoDeluxe Home Edition 4.0, and now it gives me errors :( PLEASE HELP ME

ender
05-21-2003, 07:23 PM
haha, im sorry... but learn to skin and about skinning before you post any work.

Looks like the stuff my 4 year old nephew draws with his crayons.

DANZA
05-21-2003, 07:28 PM
you need to save it as indexed coloured, 256, 8 bit
PS4 is like acient, havnt touched it in a long time.
OK BYE

The-Messenjah
05-21-2003, 07:30 PM
why dont you can this thread, and then go and start again in photoshop. try and find some faqs n stuff to help you, and then post again, once you got a quality skin. the idea is a good one, dont give up. n yeah, ask for help, but dont post any skins till they are decent. ok??

Private-88
05-21-2003, 07:31 PM
I THOUGHT THEY WHERE DEscent,

The-Messenjah
05-21-2003, 07:45 PM
Dude, look at the quality of the other skins posted. then you will see what i mean by "decent"

Private-88
05-21-2003, 08:01 PM
Shut the frig up you big gay homes.

gabagoo
05-21-2003, 08:03 PM
wazzaaaaaa:D

Private-88
05-21-2003, 08:04 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHA


You googlyed up the eyes man, BAH,.

gabagoo
05-21-2003, 08:12 PM
jibbah jabbah

05-21-2003, 08:21 PM
i dont kno if i should be scared or laughing.... :confused:

Private-88
05-21-2003, 08:22 PM
HAHAHA im laughing real bad man...........who ever thought my work would be the joke on this forum.......

The-Messenjah
05-21-2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Private-88
Shut the frig up you big gay homes.

Hmm, i was giving you good advice. trying to save whatz left of your sorry reputation... have a look at the quality of the other skins posted, and try to come up with something like that. even if it is halfway as good as the majority of the ones here, it will be a marked improvement on the one you just put out. im not trying ot bag you, im trying to offer some constructive criticizm. delete this thread, and go back to the drawing board. dont come back till you have some decent models. and not before.

Private-88
05-21-2003, 08:37 PM
How will i learn if i dont come back here?

The-Messenjah
05-21-2003, 09:04 PM
i mean dont post any skins n **** till you can produce something of quality. ask questions, yes, but dont post your work.

Private-88
05-21-2003, 09:05 PM
Did you just try to call me nigga?
N****


YOU FOOL..........

Veg
05-21-2003, 09:09 PM
Dude you would own on a sesame street mod, when i first saw that pic I thought of a black Bert.

Private-88
05-21-2003, 09:10 PM
Ok wicked, at least i can own at somthing.

/me goes headbanging to happy tune

bmanc
05-21-2003, 09:40 PM
it looks like a cartoon but its really funny in a good way1!!!!

/me uses

Private-88
05-21-2003, 09:42 PM
HAHAHA


Yo guys the pack isnt out yet......

WOW i even have some leakers.........sweet..........

bmanc
05-21-2003, 09:43 PM
k, that seriously looks good... you should just fix the nose up.... and dont mess with MSpaint... it so hard to use and its way harder than photoshop... at least for me. gj

Private-88
05-21-2003, 09:47 PM
WOW man thanks alot.............

The-Messenjah
05-21-2003, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Private-88
Did you just try to call me nigga?
N****


YOU FOOL..........


HAHAHAHA no i didnt call you a nigga. i sed dont post any more skins n S H I T (minus the spaces :P)

whose the fool now

Private-88
05-21-2003, 09:53 PM
Yo no highjacking a thread.

And no ever calling my a ****** again for the rest of your life.

The-Messenjah
05-21-2003, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Private-88
Yo no highjacking a thread.

And no ever calling my a ****** again for the rest of your life.

wtf?? when did i call you a ******????

as i sed before, close the thread. delete it, come back and try again when you have something of quality to offer.

MF_DOOM
05-22-2003, 01:21 AM
that **** is terrible. Please stop.

There were no african-germans in the wehrmacht , and if there was im sure they passed themselves off as whites.

Also no black soldier in the u.s. miltary had an afro, afro's were extremely taboo in the 1940's and plus all army recruits had there heads shaven and were to maintain close cuts.


Your skin is a disservice and apalling mockery.

E.B. Sledge
05-22-2003, 01:45 AM
oh my god, that skin is hilarious. it really just took me off guard. i actually cried from laughter. you've got the tenacity, you just need the right tools. for one thing, you're better off using a real life frontal picture of a black guy's face. drawing a face from scratch is extremely hard to do well (even for experienced photoshop users)

MF DOOM, im pretty sure Private-88's efforts are sincere. i don't think any offense was intended.

05-22-2003, 05:27 AM
Private 88, thanks for making me laugh harder than I have done for at least 2 weeks.

When I opened up that first skin you posted, tears were rolling down my cheeks due to excessive laughter.

That skin is priceless man.

And as for the posting of re-enacting photos thinking they were genuine color 1940's war photos....ROFLMAO.

I bow down to you sir.


BEST THREAD EVER.

05-22-2003, 06:29 AM
i think this guys taking the piss?
one guy cant be taht dumb AND ignorant at the same time?

gabagoo
05-22-2003, 07:39 AM
leave the talented artist alone:D

05-22-2003, 09:01 AM
ARGHHH!!!

Its Bill Cosby with a stick up his arse ... :)

ARGHHH!!!

gabagoo
05-22-2003, 09:16 AM
its the best skin evar:D

05-22-2003, 09:37 AM
This whole thread must be started as a joke, it can't be....who would ever in his whole life post a skin that.....yeah ...hmmz....ugly and.............extremely funny:p
This guy is a good actor, I am not even that stupid:p

05-22-2003, 09:47 AM
i'll know in the future, that whenever i'm feeling low, I can always come back to this thread to raise a laugh.

That picture of that skin will stay with me until my dying day.

Draft Dodger
05-22-2003, 09:57 AM
Okay, here's some reference pics of Blacks in the Red Ball Express:

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Feb2002/200202151f.jpg
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Feb2002/200202151d.jpg

05-22-2003, 10:35 AM
crazy fools the american ^^ ;)

Russ. Conscript
05-22-2003, 10:39 AM
you need to get a good version of photoshop (6.0/7.0) and get some real experiance. MS paint will get you no where.

try looking for the -free- version of PS. im sure ull find it ;)

booty
05-22-2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by baghead_uk
there was a british ss squad in the geman army aswell
i watched something on discovery about it

Yeah wasn't that one of those "on paper only" divisions, containing less than 100 men?

bmanc
05-22-2003, 01:07 PM
i put it on an allied guy but man... it looks good but he looks too nice to shoot up. seriously that looks like the nicest guy ever and i would feel bad shooting him even though its just a game. u should make him look mean and scary

05-22-2003, 04:09 PM
1. The whole point hitler started the war, was because he wanted to create a superior race of *white* people, hell they didn't even let blacks fight in the american army let alone the ****ing germans, gg you noob.

2. those skins, are side splittingly ****, my friend who has never even played dod before has laughed his ass off at how absolutely **** they are.

3.your avatar, im guessing you made that in ms paint as well because it looks as ****ty as ur skins, and private, why the hell would you want to call yourself that, i mean, its not like thats your actual rank, feel free to make yourself seem better as its not actually real dumb****. _b

Trp. Jed
05-22-2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by Flik'
1. The whole point hitler started the war

Actually if you want to get technical, we, the British started it as we declaired war on them.

But I'm just being pedantic.

- Jed

05-22-2003, 04:20 PM
This has to be a joke. That is the corniest skin I've ever seen. The only way it could be any cornier is if you made a blackface minstrel skin.

Russ. Conscript
05-22-2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Flik'
1. The whole point hitler started the war, was because he wanted to create a superior race of *white* people, hell they didn't even let blacks fight in the american army let alone the ****ing germans, gg you noob.

2. those skins, are side splittingly ****, my friend who has never even played dod before has laughed his ass off at how absolutely **** they are.

3.your avatar, im guessing you made that in ms paint as well because it looks as ****ty as ur skins, and private, why the hell would you want to call yourself that, i mean, its not like thats your actual rank, feel free to make yourself seem better as its not actually real dumb****. _b

1. im not gonna even go into that one... go read a WW2 book or something...

2.and way to be an *******, dude we dont need people like you coming around here flaming others. this guy was trying to do some honest work, but obviously doesent have the resources to do it. there is no need to flame him like that, so **** off.

hell they didn't even let blacks fight in the american army let alone the ****ing germans, gg you noob.

3.are you dumb? of course they let black people in the US military, there was ****ing black people in the US military as far back as the civil war you *******. how bout you read the whole thread before mouthing off something you do not know. someone even posted something about the history of blacks in the US military during WW2. "gg you noob."



i hate stupid people....

05-22-2003, 04:24 PM
yeah i know, but it was because of, among other things, hitlers racial ideals.

05-22-2003, 04:28 PM
Of course there were blacks in the US military. Usually however they were either in service positions (cooks, etc.) or segregated into their own units. (The Tuskeegee Airmen, for example.) There were also blacks in the British troops, since Britian had colonies in Africa and India, and I think they were a bit more likely to have integrated regiments. But I think the odds of anyone running across a black German soldier was pretty slim. I mean, look at how Hitler reacted to Jesse Owens.

The-Messenjah
05-22-2003, 05:33 PM
hmm leave private alone, he was doing his best. they are funny as all ****, but hell, itz his first try.

Dude, get a decent ver of photoshop, and learn how to use it (photoshop help, online, here, wherever) and then try and post some more skins. dont give up, itz a good idea :-D neway, i look forward to see some more of your stuff :D

Private-88
05-22-2003, 07:39 PM
Thanks guys, dont worry ill try to get better...........Yo you should have seen my field gear that i made for american paras aswell, they where done in MS paint..........cant do it in anything else.

And to Flik'
Yo man you need to take a pill, my moms having a bad day aswell ( PMS ) but she just chooses not to talk to me, so you should do the same, i dont think it is a good idea to try and make fun of peoples work and all they do, when you yourself are making quite a fool yourself.

And also, i dont have an avatar you big friggen girl, i have a signiture, and no it was not done in MS paint, and if you new as much about MS paint as you claim to, then you would have to give me credit for at least making somthing that good out of MS paint.



Ok later Yáll

Lorda Mercy
05-22-2003, 08:09 PM
Talk about Afrika Korps . . .

Dude, someone help me make that facial skin into an avatar?

05-22-2003, 09:44 PM
Are there no longer any Moderators on these forums ?

The whole idea of this thread is NOT a bad idea. But if you consider the content in this thread, I'm suprised it hasn't been closed.

bmanc
05-22-2003, 10:45 PM
i would seriously like to see a completed skin... dont give up its a good idea

The-Messenjah
05-22-2003, 11:13 PM
I agree

05-23-2003, 02:53 AM
black american and british..... good idea. Black German? Ain't going to happen. Leave Private alone, I think theres a place for cartoony skins in Dod. Wouldn't it be fun to turn the corner and see elmer fudd hunting you down? That would be awesome. As long as one person would use it its not a waste of time.

05-23-2003, 04:18 AM
Among the first "Germans" captured at Normandy were several Koreans. They had been forced to fight for the Japanese Army until they were captured by the Russians and forced to fight for the Russian Army until they were captured by the Germans and forced to fight for the German Army until they were captured by the US Army.

this is a fact.

The Wehrmacht in Normandy in June of 1944 was an international army. It had troops from every corner of the vast Soviet empire -- Mongolians, Cossacks, Georgians, Muslims, Chinese -- plus men from the Soviet Union's neighboring countries, men who had been conscripted into the Red Army, then captured by the Germans in 1941 or 1942. There were some Koreans, captured by the Red Army in the 1939 war with Japan. In Normandy in June 1944, the 29th Division captured enemy troops of so many different nationalities that one GI blurted to his company commander, "Captain, just who the hell are we fighting, anyway?"

05-23-2003, 01:08 PM
any updates?

Arsenal
05-23-2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Private-88
It will go as follow, the american sgt. will be african american, the british gunner will be african american, and the german sniper will be african american.


I still have to wonder, would a black Brit or German be an African American? hmmm :p

05-23-2003, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Arsenal
I still have to wonder, would a black Brit or German be an African American? hmmm :p

don't argue with the new msa master. :p :D

d3fmaybe
05-23-2003, 05:09 PM
Omg. You made my day.

Private-88
05-23-2003, 05:27 PM
Dont worry guys, pack with be out soon............you just have to cool down.

ender
05-23-2003, 06:33 PM
Finally, someone that is a bigger idiot then the famous Gangs.

R3aveR
05-23-2003, 06:36 PM
how hard is it to make dark coloured ppl. Liek really all u have to do is open a face up and change the brightness.

05-23-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by R3aveR
how hard is it to make dark coloured ppl. Liek really all u have to do is open a face up and change the brightness.


:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Private-88
05-23-2003, 07:46 PM
Ok guys dont worry about the deminsions of the eyes etc, i was sort of trying to lower them a bit, and im being honest when i say that african american people do have slightly different eyes, and i cant model so.......anways, this picture is for you guys to see if im improving......i fixed the color but you cant tell much because when i saved it it messed up, well hear it is, this will go on the british gunner.

Private-88
05-23-2003, 07:48 PM
Sorry guys, this looks really bad, just block out the upper part of his head, and look at the botton half, does it not looked better though?

Corporal Rossi
05-23-2003, 07:48 PM
I'm sorry man, but that really looks messed up. Kind of looks like a fish...

Private-88
05-23-2003, 08:02 PM
Ok i fixed it up again, sorry again guys but qaulity of picture is still messed, here.

Private-88
05-23-2003, 08:46 PM
Come on guys look at the last picture released by me, give me some credit, tell me does it not look better?

bmanc
05-23-2003, 09:42 PM
i like the first one best... the eyes are too far apart on the last 2

Private-88
05-23-2003, 10:07 PM
well on the very last one i posted i dont think its THAT bad, look at this picture for a reference.

This you might think is a joke because its bill cosby and all, but im being honest, if you notice the eyes are spaced like that.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/71/039_38754.jpg

R3aveR
05-24-2003, 02:59 AM
All i can say is

GIVE UP EARLY

gabagoo
05-24-2003, 03:04 AM
private-88 finally admited to me that hes really Robin Williams:D

GG Robin:rolleyes:

05-24-2003, 03:50 AM
Actually, thats quite a lot better than the first one, which looked like a "spook" caricature. Just move the eyes in a bit. You're getting closer, man.

05-24-2003, 04:18 AM
HAHAHA i can't stop laughing everytime i see ur progress..:D

But i have to say, the last one looks more human and less grotesque. Just move the eyes in a bit, u don't have to follow Bill Cosby's face

Veg
05-24-2003, 04:20 AM
Seriously, I dont see why you carry on with this thread, for the love of god and all that is great, please let this go, PC is crap, always will be. Let it go....

05-24-2003, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Raingrove
Among the first "Germans" captured at Normandy were several Koreans. They had been forced to fight for the Japanese Army until they were captured by the Russians and forced to fight for the Russian Army until they were captured by the Germans and forced to fight for the German Army until they were captured by the US Army.

this is a fact.

The Wehrmacht in Normandy in June of 1944 was an international army. It had troops from every corner of the vast Soviet empire -- Mongolians, Cossacks, Georgians, Muslims, Chinese -- plus men from the Soviet Union's neighboring countries, men who had been conscripted into the Red Army, then captured by the Germans in 1941 or 1942. There were some Koreans, captured by the Red Army in the 1939 war with Japan. In Normandy in June 1944, the 29th Division captured enemy troops of so many different nationalities that one GI blurted to his company commander, "Captain, just who the hell are we fighting, anyway?" True! MOst of the ppl in the german atlantic wall were little kids and older service men! man weren't even german, ther wer polish, austrians, etc. HItler took anyone he could use to fill up the atlantic wall!:rolleyes:

Jack Handey
05-24-2003, 09:43 AM
I must say, this is the dumbest idea ever. Perhaps you should try using something other than MSPAINT to make the face textures? All you have to do is get a pic of someones face, cut it and trim it, paste it as a new layer, take the transparency down to about 70, and do a free transform till it fits the original face texture. Then just blend the skin and you're done, its laughably easy, I even did it for my own face.

05-24-2003, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by Jack Handey
I even did it for my own face.

Don't torture us with it pls.......

My eyes cannot be gouged out but once....... ;)


j/k


As far as the idea, I think it's silly......

If I were you, I'd try and do skins for one of the US Black units.....

Jack Handey
05-24-2003, 09:58 AM
Shhhhhhhsh... for the ladies.

Private-88
05-24-2003, 10:18 AM
Yeah but the faces are usually strectced, and if i where to cut and paste from REAL faces they woulsnt be strechtced like the ones that you have to work with when you open it up......if you see what im saying.

Jack Handey
05-24-2003, 10:23 AM
thats why I said you have to use the free transform tool to make it fit the proportions, sheesh.

2ltben
05-24-2003, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Private-88
O yeah also.........where there army regulations in the German army against facial hair?

Because i was thinkging of putting sideburns or goatee on the sniper just to make him look better, because im not that good at detail, and i want to add as much as possible to the appearence.
The regulations were the same as every other army. Sideburns a maximum of 1/2", no beards of any kind, and mustaches could be no longer than the corners of the mouth.

JoJo
05-24-2003, 10:30 AM
I pity the fool who uses this skin...






















j/k :rolleyes:

JoJo
05-24-2003, 11:08 AM
R3aveR wrote
how hard is it to make dark coloured ppl. Liek really all u have to do is open a face up and change the brightness.
I took the time (5 mins) to try this out, its an axis face on a US body....

Don't worry, this is a joke I will not be releasing this as a real skin... I think I this time and age PC is OT (ohhh, I like that)...

I pity the fool (http://www.jojosplace.net/DoD/pitythefool.jpg)

edit: a bit bright... sorry about that folks...

Kaikkonen
05-24-2003, 11:34 AM
Edited by HeadHunter

We don't appreciate racist comments here. Kaikkonen, this is your one and only warning.

JoJo
05-24-2003, 11:53 AM
I dont get it? Is that a racist comment, or an attempt at being funny, because if it is I'm waiting for the punch line...

:confused: :confused:

To be honest I did the skin thinking this will be just a joke, but now Im thinking of doing them for real...



















j/k ;)

Sarge0087
05-25-2003, 12:23 AM
I seriously laughed for about 5 mintues straight. The skin on the texture map makes him look like he's on crack.

R3aveR
05-25-2003, 03:09 PM
well obviously u have to know how to use the Brightness and tone adjustments properly i guess u don't know how to.

05-25-2003, 06:21 PM
The Army was segregated in WW2. There were black cooks, drivers, barbers, tailors, clerks, nurses (for segregated treatment). There were also black tankers and marines. The Airforce had the venerated Tuskeegee airmen. I also recall a black Army general in charge of supplies on D-Day (and a distinguished WW1 veteran).

The German army wouldn't have had any black soldiers. They were viewed as subhuman, equal to Jews. They did use Arab and Indian conscripts though as they weren't as harshly viewed as blacks and Jews. The Japanese were viewed as honorary Aryans.

I don't know anything about blacks in British service, but I think I've seen pictures of black paratroopers.

gabagoo
05-25-2003, 07:01 PM
wheres my bill cosby skin :D
i need a new sig you know :D

congealedmeat
05-26-2003, 03:36 PM
Dont pay attention to the asshats 88. That you made that in MS paint is quite commendable. The last 2 pics the eyes look wierd to me.....

bmanc
05-26-2003, 04:01 PM
i am going to work on a bill cosby skin

E.B. Sledge
05-26-2003, 04:10 PM
AHAH!

private 88, i know who your black skin looks like...


if Sammy Davis jr. and Groucho Marx had a kid, he'd look like the guy in your skin.

bmanc
05-26-2003, 04:29 PM
i broke him :( its harder than it looks...

when i saved the skin his face got blotchy and white

Rob
05-26-2003, 04:45 PM
This thread has been a disgrace for far too long.

Rampant racism, offtopic bickering, useless flames, and racial slurs. Closed.

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