[MWIP] British Airborne for 1.0


Trp. Jed
05-17-2003, 04:03 PM
Image here -> http://www.speedfreak.com/misc/brit10_2.jpg

I did have another thread about these models but it got spammed to death so I figured I'd try again.

These were the airborne models that I was making for 3.1 but held onto until 1.0 came out.

I've been playing with them for a week or two now and although they work in 1.0 I want to tweak them a little bit. However I thought I would let you know I havent abandoned them.

Primarily I want to re-skin the jacket and trousers as I'm not happywith them right now and I have a texture error (actually a HL bug) to fix on the head when the head gear comes off.

I indend to release a beret version and a helmet version you can choose between plus a Canadian version too.

On one other note, Leroy, the black Bren gunner from the 3.1 version. As I cant change the skin on the v_model hands on a per-class bases any more I wont be able to have black hands in view when playing his character.

Does this bother anyone that much that I should retire Leroy and replace him with a caucasian?

- Jed

05-17-2003, 04:09 PM
nice skins!!
I hope you finish them soon

Dances w Wolves
05-17-2003, 04:09 PM
meh release sounds great! :D

Corporal Rossi
05-17-2003, 04:15 PM
great, and I say who cares about Leroy, if it really bothers people that much, they can just

a. Replace his face with a caucasian on their own (hlmv style)
b. Get a reskin for the v model of the bren with 'black' hands.

Either way its not that big a problem in my eyes.

Spork
05-17-2003, 04:17 PM
:) nice skins cant wait untill you put em out!

one thing thats funny though is in the picture one guy looks like he has no chin like my great grandpaa without any teeth in :p

Devin Kryss
05-17-2003, 04:19 PM
Glad to hear its not dead. Im far too busy with my Rangers to actually do any brits, so this might be the only model file that gets into my DoD folder that I havent edited, hacked, or changed drastically. Everything else is default.

I think it looks fantastic. And its not to say you can mix and match headgear. Just attach each headger to the head. You can customize each helmet then, instead of using the supplied submodel stuff. I dont care if I can blow his helmet off anyway, i think that effect is kinda cheesy. As for Leroy, let him stay. I think you should just release an optional bmp for people who would rather see a caucasian Bren Gunner in the zip, so people with HLMV can swap em out. I dont mind seeing every bren gunner black, and then me being the only white guy with a bren, but it would look strange to pull out my Bren and see black ahnds, then swap to my webley, and see white hands.

Excellent work, im impressed with your attention to detail and your patience in making these a quality model.

[H2H]MetalHeart
05-17-2003, 04:45 PM
Just release it please...

rotzbua
05-17-2003, 04:47 PM
wow, feckin sweet, man

great job...

05-18-2003, 11:49 AM
i will be dl'ing these little beuti's:D

[H2H]MetalHeart
05-19-2003, 04:21 AM
when U'll release it?

EffJi
05-19-2003, 09:22 AM
Be sure to release a beret helmet replacement (for when the beret gets shot off).

How about a STEN model with the foregrip? Would that be possible?
Otherwise it won't matter since someone will release it sooner or later.

The Skins looks great by the way.

05-19-2003, 10:11 AM
Lookin good !! Can't wait.

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 10:41 AM
Any news on these little beauts jed?

@ Effji, i've made a MK 5 sten. jus needs some custom aniamtions so he uses the foregrip.

http://www.dodsupply.co.uk/images/stenmk5.JPG

http://www.dodsupply.co.uk/images/stenmk5%20pistol%20grip.JPG

Ska

EffJi
05-19-2003, 11:42 AM
The foregrip looks a little unaccurate (I think). It looks like the thompson grip.

should look more like this (http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0300/328.htm)


Great model nonetheless, I sure as hell couldn't do it any better.

Ska Wars
05-19-2003, 11:44 AM
Thats cos it is the tommy foregrip lol I'm a shamless ***** who steals bits of other models you see lol I'll fix it before i release though dont worry :)

Ska

EffJi
05-19-2003, 11:50 AM
lol

RealyPssd
05-19-2003, 02:24 PM
Glad to know that they're still being released.

They look great, can't wait till they're out :D

05-19-2003, 02:44 PM
Excellent job Jed, can't wait to use them.

I remember finding the thread on the old forums and it was about 15 pages long or summat like that, and I started reading it... by the time I got to page 14 I was almost as excited as when Leeds were 3-0 up against Deportivo in the Champions League Qtr a few years ago... and then you decided to wait till v1.0 to release... :( I'm sure they're gonna be worth the wait m8 (lol that rhymes)

Anyways... gj :p

Trp. Jed
05-20-2003, 08:18 PM
Right,

WIP model ->pic http://www.speedfreak.com/misc/new_model_3.jpg

Just so you dont all think its gone to sleep.
I rushed the models last time as I was trying to get them released before
the end of 3.1 and as a result the poly count was pretty high and the modelling
pretty ropey to be honest.

I've started from scratch with the base body model and made sure I did it
right this time.

None of the polys break into the inside of the model and theres no gaps so this guy
is almost like a molded piece.

Its NOT finished yet, theres some tweaking to do for general shape and
I need to test it against the skeleton before I put any kit on it or texture it.

Poly count so far is 893.

- Jed

Devin Kryss
05-20-2003, 08:27 PM
GAHHHH!!!!

YOU STARTED OVER?! WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE HIGH POLY ONES?! THEY LOOKED BEAUTIFUL!!! NOW WE MUST WAIT LONGER?!

Trp. Jed
05-20-2003, 08:35 PM
Hey, I take pride in my work, mmmkay? ;)

And its just the base body part anyway and it only took me and hour to re-assemble it.
The rest of the bits and pieces I'll reuse from the old model and 99% of the textures too.

It wont take that long.

Just so you know, my high poly version was 1800 polys total which makes it more
of a medium poly than high.
As I said, so far I'm at 893 polys so the way things are going this wont be more
of a load of your system than the default 1.0 models.

- Jed

05-21-2003, 11:21 AM
Yes "Red Devil" replacements for the default Brits would be awesome!

Too bad we dont' have a 'brit-para' class yet :>

A "brit-para" class along with some Arnhem and Oosterbeek maps would be great.

Also come to think of it a "brit-para" class with a "Pegasus Bridge" map would be nice. "Pegasus Bridge" was capture in the early hours of Overlord by a reinforced company of British paras riding gliders.

Russ. Conscript
05-21-2003, 12:12 PM
ah god damnit. i was lookin forward to these. but as i always say...

"the longer you wait for it, the better it is when it finally comes around to you"

think of it this way fellas: you REALLY gotta take a leak, but you cant go, beacuse your doing something that restrics you from going to pee. so you wait and wait, and your eyes are watering, and your about to pass out, and your rolling on the floor and what not.

so FINALLY after 3 hours of holding it in, you let it all out (in the toilet of course). and damn, does it feel GOOD!

so the point im making here is, weve waited for these models for so long, and weve been waiting, and waiting, and waitng.... but hey, its gonna be awesome when they finally come out, cuz they get better with time. this allows Trp. to make em even better! and it will be ALL the better when we finally get em. :P

so be patient, these are looking better than ever, cant wait to see the skins on the new model.


ok im done ranting now :p

Trp. Jed
05-21-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by CplRusty
Yes "Red Devil" replacements for the default Brits would be awesome!

Too bad we dont' have a 'brit-para' class yet :>


Actually wen I release these I will make a set you can use to replace the US para's with Brit para's on maps like Krastoff. If you feel so inclined.



Also come to think of it a "brit-para" class with a "Pegasus Bridge" map would be nice. "Pegasus Bridge" was capture in the early hours of Overlord by a reinforced company of British paras riding gliders.

Actually Taffeh made dod_pegasus and submitted it for 1.0 but it didnt get accepted (long story). I actually made the horsa glider model for the map and it was his map that inspired me to start these models in the first place.

Horsa in dod_pegasus (http://www.speedfreak.com/misc/pegasus21.jpg)

Anyway, quick status update. I added the large map pocket to the pants (its modelled in the leg, not just in the texture) and fixed the collar and have started to map it to the 1.0 skeleton so I can test it and tweak the joints for animating.

Current polycount = 914.

- Jed

urseus
05-21-2003, 06:28 PM
Booooo to berets hehe


Good job though mate, they look very smooth. Brits seem to be underskinned by default, not the amount of detail as in the axis, which is the dod teams favourite.

12aVeN
05-25-2003, 06:21 PM
Wow, its looking good Jed! :D

05-26-2003, 02:20 AM
Jed, you still making a full pack, or just player models only ??

If so, is this any good to you ??

Trp. Jed
05-26-2003, 03:11 AM
At the moment just player models.

After that I'm helping Marzy with weapon models.

- Jed

05-26-2003, 01:14 PM
Actually Taffeh made dod_pegasus and submitted it for 1.0 but it didnt get accepted (long story).
if it was anything like para_pegasus which he released, im not surprised, it was terrible

RealyPssd
05-26-2003, 01:41 PM
Too bad you started over :(

But I'm sure it'll be worth the extra wait.

Trp. Jed
05-26-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Briggers
if it was anything like para_pegasus which he released, im not surprised, it was terrible

Well he did lose a large portion of it in a hard-disk crash and during B4 testing, almost no-communication about it was recieved from the DoD team so he wasnt able to develop it further.

But I'm sure Taffeh can tell you the full story.

- Jed

Trp. Jed
05-30-2003, 04:27 PM
*sigh*

Getting there - I'm sick and got some severe motivation problems at the mo.

The model didn't take long, just the skin is taking me AGES to do. Still the P37 webbing belt turned out ok.

Ignore the boots, their pants. I just slapped something on them so they weren't white.

Its getting there... (http://www.speedfreak.com/misc/uvwmap.jpg)

- Jed

P.S. Look Marzy! Cuffs!

MaRzY
05-30-2003, 04:49 PM
Looking good, nice cuffs...:)

12aVeN
05-30-2003, 11:58 PM
Wow Jed, its lookin great!!!

Animal_Motte
05-31-2003, 03:20 AM
cool!!:D finish em

Kameradschaft
05-31-2003, 07:42 AM
The most recent pic of your progress is impressive! Hope you release em soon:)

Trp. Jed
06-01-2003, 03:20 PM
Finished jacket (http://www.speedfreak.com/misc/uvwmap.jpg)

Woohoo! I got my arse in gear and finished the jacket today! :D

Like the toggle rope? ;)

Yes those are the default 1.0 boot textures. I needed something to
put on there as it was looking a bit boring in "white socks".

- Jed

06-01-2003, 04:08 PM
You sir, have owned me :)

I'm not going to even bother with mine, these are light years ahead of mine :P

Corporal Rossi
06-01-2003, 04:24 PM
cant wait!

Ska Wars
06-01-2003, 04:34 PM
Swish!

Ska

Trp. Jed
06-01-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Vecdran
You sir, have owned me :)

I'm not going to even bother with mine, these are light years ahead of mine :P

Trust me, you aint been 0wN3d. You have no idea how long I've been working on these... ;)

- Jed

12aVeN
06-01-2003, 07:19 PM
Wow that looks frickin awesome!!!

Nixon
06-01-2003, 09:10 PM
Wow!

I am happy to see this comming, I was thier from day 1 of these in b3 .1 bumping the threat so we would not lose this sweet pack.

Keep up the good work mate,

*BUMP* :P

Cheers,
Nix

Snoz[OwP]
06-02-2003, 08:39 AM
These look superb.
I will certainly be using them.

**BUMP**

Ska Wars
06-02-2003, 08:57 AM
I remember when you released the pics of the 3.1 version. I was totally blown away with the animations you had added like the properally held sten, the bren gunner shooting from the hip and the great ilde animation sounds.

Are you planning to add any other such 'revolutionary' features with this version?

Keep up the great work Jed,

Ska

RealyPssd
06-02-2003, 09:26 AM
Looking great :cool:

Trp. Jed
06-02-2003, 03:13 PM
How many more times you gonna change your sig Ska?

Get "A Bridge Too Far" on DVD for your birthday did you? ;)

- Jed

Nixon
06-07-2003, 05:02 PM
Bump

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