[mwip] Retouched skin pack-"spielberg look"


Zao
05-13-2003, 12:42 PM
Ok, a couple things:
1) The new default models rock.
2) The new default skins rock.
3) Vandori's skin pack rocks.
4) To me, they all look too clean.

I started off making the skins lighter, but then realised they looked good dark as well. I'm happiest with the brit skins and the dark axis ones, but hey... I may release different helmet skins soon.

I have several versions of these done now. They will hopefully be released tomorrow. The pics attatched have been updated except for the brits, they stay the same.

I have done matching viewsleeve skins, but don't have pics of those yet. They just match the uniforms, so no biggie.

Updated picture of the rangers, I know it's not a great one, but I had an hour and a half final today, and I have two tomorrow morning, and then I'm moving, and then moving again in two weeks. Zao is busy.

Zao
05-13-2003, 12:44 PM
And a disclaimer: I never once used the sharpen tool. Or did anything to do with the saturation tool.

Zao
05-13-2003, 12:47 PM
Edit-new axins skins. The unteroffizier is not pictured, but he's got a more blackish uniform now.

Dirty Sanchez
05-13-2003, 12:47 PM
GO ZAO! :D :D

Zao
05-13-2003, 01:04 PM
36 views, one reply. Welcome to msa, I guess.

In-game pics coming in a little while.

Trigger
05-13-2003, 01:16 PM
definately an interesting look, bu i don't know if it would go with all the other non-spielberg looking textures and models in the game.

Residue
05-13-2003, 01:20 PM
They look nice to me, Although, Im not sure what you mean about 'spielberg'. (Im dont feel like thinking right now) anyways. They look nice man, GJ, and keep up the good work.

Doug the Head
05-13-2003, 01:24 PM
Actually, the 'Speilberg' way is to desaturate everything.

JBF
05-13-2003, 03:25 PM
Wow, nice job. I love the way it looks in the model viewer shots. Hopefully they'll look good in-game.

RealyPssd
05-13-2003, 03:35 PM
They don't look to bad ;)

Zao
05-13-2003, 03:42 PM
Hmm, desaturated indeed. Well, whatever the term, it's the look I'm going for. Cpt. Higgins, actually, they don't look too out of place ingame, and the shots might show that. I'm still not done, obviously. The helmets don't seem to want to get the right contrast and there's a few other color issues I want to work with. Anyways, here are some screenshots.

British in-game.

Devin Kryss
05-13-2003, 03:47 PM
I think they look very very good Zoa. Its a differtn interesting new sort of look. I highly aprove.

Zao
05-13-2003, 03:49 PM
Rangers, in game. The helmet color is still a little off. First they were too bright, and now they're too glassy looking and yellowish. I may go a touch darker on the uniforms as well.

Zao
05-13-2003, 03:51 PM
And the Heer. Thanks, Devin.

Everyone else, please do give feedback. I really would like some advice or hear what people think I should try to do with these, or if there's something you think is missing.

Devin Kryss
05-13-2003, 03:54 PM
I think the heer need to be darker, they look like they dunked their clothes in bleach. I think if you maybe darkened it a tad, and upped the contrast so you get bright and dark wrinkles, it would look cool.

Conscript
05-13-2003, 03:58 PM
Hmm, nice work, though Im not too keen on the Allied models - however, those Axis uniforms look fantastic, a great dusty, chalky effect on their clothes, very nice :)

Zao
05-13-2003, 03:59 PM
Thanks for the input. I'd been thinking the same thing, and I'm going to redo them. Ranger's helmets have been redone now as well. Pics up later this evening.

Mexikilla
05-13-2003, 04:09 PM
Looks great Zao, but it is not the SPR look you are trying to achieve. After you finish these, I would definitely try desaturating the skins like doug the head said, he is right. Speilberg took 60% of the color out of the film and also overexposed it. If you look in the final Ramelle battle you will notice you never really see the sky, it is just a white glare which I wish would all this desaturating would be done in DOD. Keep it up though, anything SPR is cool!

Dying Robot
05-13-2003, 04:11 PM
I love those Heer models...the other ones didn't do it for me, but them axis...OOOOoooOOO

Zao
05-13-2003, 06:09 PM
Pic says it all. Several versions done. Anyone want these?

urseus
05-13-2003, 06:19 PM
The allies look a little too gold, like they are hosting a beach game show.

The axis are a little bit too much like snow troopers, which would go awsome in kalt etc but look a little out of place in other maps.

The brits are perfect i think.

Strider
05-13-2003, 06:34 PM
Looking great...

Zao
05-13-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by urseus
The allies look a little too gold, like they are hosting a beach game show.
Lol, I fixed that, made them darker, and also made a much darker version than that.

The axis are a little bit too much like snow troopers, which would go awsome in kalt etc but look a little out of place in other maps.
My original intent was to make a snow pack, and I stumbled onto something else. I'm including the snowy looking ones and also two other versions with dirtier faces and darker uniforms, one set darker than the next (faces excluded).

The brits are perfect i think.
Thanks. I didn't mess with them after I finished them. I may do some more work on making a more greenish heer pack, as the ones I haven't shown pics of yet wound up damn near black (quasi SS anyone?). I also want to do some greener looking ranger uniforms and I desperately want to reskin the allied paras. Contrary to what I stated in my first post in this thread, I may not mess with Vandori's skins at all, being that they just came out and I want to get more into doing my own thing.

Devearica
05-13-2003, 09:32 PM
I want these.

Zao
05-13-2003, 10:04 PM
Cool. They'll be released friday, barring any tradgedies. Editor321 is on vacation until then, so, hopefully, they'll be out then. I'm also working on a matching sleeve set for these.

05-13-2003, 10:50 PM
Those colors are way too funky.

E.B. Sledge
05-13-2003, 11:13 PM
yea, for the saving pvt. ryan look all you need to do is...


- increase contrast

- desaturate (not completely though)

unfortunately this still doesn't take care of the fact that the environment is still laden with bright colors.

janusz kaminski is an incredible cinematographer.

05-14-2003, 08:25 PM
well i haven't tried the skins yet (don't worry i will;) ) but i noticed that the Heer don't have any insignias on their helmets or clothes!! can u plz add some?!:)

Captain John Miller
05-14-2003, 08:33 PM
me likes, work to make them a bit better and then give us them up for grabs. :)

05-14-2003, 09:08 PM
they all look ok but not to my taste
but there very well done

Zao
05-14-2003, 11:24 PM
I haven't yet posted pics of the darker sets I've done. I tried these out this afternoon on the dodteam server in a round of forest. At one point, I was sharing a trench with Vandori, and it was kind of ironic because he was a ranger weraing my skins.. Umm anyways, I took screenshots, and keep in mind these are the darker set. Only took two screens of the rangers because I was... erm... busy ;)

Zao
05-14-2003, 11:25 PM
Why I was busy... :) Decals will be in the pack, sleeves being worked on in between finals.

Zao
05-15-2003, 06:11 PM
Bump, releasage tomorrow hopefully. Preview of new axis skins in above post.

05-15-2003, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Zao
I haven't yet posted pics of the darker sets I've done. I tried these out this afternoon on the dodteam server in a round of forest. At one point, I was sharing a trench with Vandori, and it was kind of ironic because he was a ranger weraing my skins.. Umm anyways, I took screenshots, and keep in mind these are the darker set. Only took two screens of the rangers because I was... erm... busy ;) What about the Heer insignias on their helmets?!:(

Korper
05-16-2003, 02:48 AM
those looke AWESOME zao, they just scream, "im cool and alive"

Dances w Wolves
05-16-2003, 03:56 AM
great work zao!

05-16-2003, 03:57 PM
WHAT ABOUT THE HEER INSIGNIAS?!!!!!:mad:

Captain Higgins
05-16-2003, 05:05 PM
The colors just don't seem natural enough for me... As everyone before mentioned, the Spielberg look is darker, and washed out. These colors, to me, are far too vibrant. They would look 200% better with a little less contrast, and a little more desaturizing.

05-17-2003, 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Captain Higgins
The colors just don't seem natural enough for me... As everyone before mentioned, the Spielberg look is darker, and washed out. These colors, to me, are far too vibrant. They would look 200% better with a little less contrast, and a little more desaturizing.
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Yeah there's somehting wrong with it. Actually the Axis look pretty good, but it's the allies i'm having problems with. You made the helmet TOO green adn the rest of hte uniform TOO gold. The axis look good, especially the helmets; but there's still somethign wrong with the allies. If anyhting the defualt allies look more speildberg-ish. They never had uniforms THAT gold adn helmets that green. in the movie speildberg made the helmets look almost blue since he desaturated it so much. and the uniforms are a rally pale tan.! With the axis i get the feeling that their actually wearing some sort of cloth. witht he way u made the allies it just seem strange as if their wearing raw leather for pants, which have been "spray painted" gold, rather than cotton pants(or whatever the hell they were made out of). =/

Zao
05-17-2003, 03:39 PM
Bleh. I don't think I'm going to release them. Didn't catch enough interest, and they didn't turn out the way I wanted. I'm quite satisfied with the axis skins, and yes, did add heer insignia to the helmets, and made a matching sleeve pack, but everyone seems to want the rangers to be fixed up instead. I shouldn't have said anything about spielberg, that's not really the look I was going for with these the more I think about it. The high contrast and wierd lighting effect left me not really knowing what to call it.

At some point, when I'm not swamped with real life, I may redo these to fix what looks ugly, and yes, I know the helmets are ugly. The brits, I'm fine with. The germans, I'm fine with. The rangers... Bleh.

So, in short, I'm not going to release the rangers. I'll be starting a release thread for the others, though as soon as editor has the links up.

Zao
05-17-2003, 03:44 PM
Nm, I guess editor wants to include the rangers, too.

- NazguL -
05-17-2003, 03:49 PM
i want all of them :D gj and cant wait.

Spork
05-17-2003, 03:50 PM
cool iam useing them :)

cant wait for the next set!

Zao rules :cool:

Zao
05-17-2003, 03:58 PM
Heh, well that was cool :) Now I know at least someone wants them, lol. Dunno if I mentioned, but viewsleeves included in zip. You apply them in hlmv.

Zao
05-17-2003, 04:25 PM
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