Airborne redux.


Trp. Jed
09-11-2004, 06:40 PM
Arnhem 60th Anniversary Edition.

New textures, high-poly head and hands.

I make no apologies for stolen FPS. These WILL hurt your system.

Trp. Jed
09-11-2004, 06:41 PM
Arse End.

Trigger
09-11-2004, 06:44 PM
Nice, fingers and everything.

Swedish
09-11-2004, 06:57 PM
I hope you integrate those green para helmets with straps and berets.

Pvt.Crowe
09-11-2004, 07:42 PM
I wish there were some american paras that were this awesome....looks sweet.

Mortar
09-11-2004, 08:32 PM
I Love that face... it's awesome :)

Look forward to see them Jed, keep up your outstanding work buddy :)

Billie|Joe
09-11-2004, 08:44 PM
yay?

[4thR]HyPeR
09-11-2004, 09:35 PM
holy smack.

(how come the eyes are so big though?)

Strider
09-11-2004, 09:38 PM
Jed u are teh best...

baldrick5
09-11-2004, 09:59 PM
<-------eagerly awaiting these:)

SWAT
09-11-2004, 11:26 PM
I Thought these ones were suppose to be for DOD 2.By the way they look :sheep::sheep::sheep::sheep:in awsome.

irfoist
09-12-2004, 02:34 AM
wow those look excellent jed.

is it me or does he look a bit cross eyed?

Sgt.Sinister
09-12-2004, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by SWAT
I Thought these ones were suppose to be for DOD 2.By the way they look :sheep::sheep::sheep::sheep:in awsome.

There hasn't even been news of a DoD 2. If you mean DoD:S, then yea, that's what he said.

Steel Blade
09-12-2004, 03:42 AM
BEST
BRIT
MODELS
EVER

Cpt.ToAd.82ndR
09-12-2004, 05:17 AM
Please tell me they talk when u talk on mic like ur other ones :D
Btw do some Gerrys why'll ur at it or could u do my gerrys i made so their mouths move?

Thanks ToAd

Warlord-Sco-
09-12-2004, 06:34 AM
Those look bloody amazing!:eek:

Can't wait for release!

[H2H]MetalHeart
09-12-2004, 07:02 AM
[SEC]MetalHeart:
Woooooooooo THE BEST ONES!
Yep, it gonna hurt my fps :> No i will have 5 :D

Cole
09-12-2004, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Steel Blade
BEST
BRIT
MODELS
EVER

Sproily
09-12-2004, 11:57 AM
omg amazing

that face looks like some fookin' pacific assault :o

Trp. Jed
09-12-2004, 12:11 PM
To answer a few questions...

The new textures are compatible with the old low poly models so I'll update them too. You'll have the option of the original low-ish poly models or these.

The only area's where theres been an increase in polys is the face and the hands, everything else is as it was in the previous versions. I've just fixed a lot of vertex welding errors so things are a little smoother.

Original models are around 1800 polys max, these push around 2800 polys. Their not the ones I was making for HL2, those are higher still.

Yes, there will be a version with helmets.

Yes they will have moving mouths.

And no, he's not that cross eyed. The angle of the picture doesn't help much but the eyes are correct and in proportion, its just a shame they wont move so he's got a bit of a stare but thats HL1 for you.

Sproily
09-12-2004, 12:21 PM
thats really amazing.. the face is like.. ugh.. go work for valve. and keep satisfying us. and even make some precious cash for it. absolutely amazing. :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot:

{tBs}IamDoydy
09-12-2004, 01:42 PM
fantastic job jed, they are brilliant.

PeeZwee
09-12-2004, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
To answer a few questions...

The new textures are compatible with the old low poly models so I'll update them too. You'll have the option of the original low-ish poly models or these.

...

Original models are around 1800 polys max, these push around 2800 polys. Their not the ones I was making for HL2, those are higher still..



Thank god, becuse it will be dod 1 on 1 for me :(.


Hope you'll still do the canadian version :).

Mortar
09-12-2004, 03:03 PM
I think 2800 for a player model is just fine...
even vader agrees, right vader ? :vader: "Jed, im your father", erm nm... but the parrot said it's ok
:PARROT: "it's ok, it's ok".

darkflame
09-12-2004, 07:45 PM
PERMISSION TO :vader::vader::vader::vader: PANTS SIR!:eek:

Sproily
09-13-2004, 06:38 AM
Can I skin some of the faces please! :D
Just give me the face you have now and I'll make a few :D

~*StaR*~
09-13-2004, 08:11 AM
:eek: looks like something that would be in source...for sure! looks good, prob won't use on my current pc though...might blow it up :p

Trp. Jed
09-13-2004, 03:40 PM
Pimp it...

Trp. Jed
09-13-2004, 03:41 PM
Pimp it hard...

Warlord-Sco-
09-13-2004, 03:52 PM
Crikey, look at the definition on those faces:eek:

Those look amazing, and near to release, i hope:p

Top notch, as usual.

Vandal
09-13-2004, 04:14 PM
Imuh DL it.

lagtron
09-13-2004, 04:31 PM
those faces/eyes, really reminds me of barney in hl2

HammeR [OwP]
09-13-2004, 04:38 PM
Superb job Trp.Jed Those look spectacular! they are very good indeed.

Strider
09-13-2004, 05:44 PM
Can we look foward to a release of the Canadian and SAS versions???

Watchtower
09-13-2004, 05:47 PM
Obviously a must have. Bloody fantastic

Jed, I think I can speak for everyone saying that we want some U.S. Airborne models from you as well, please, consider it. Your work is top notch.

Cheers

Strider
09-13-2004, 05:58 PM
He did release some US Airborne Models...

Billie|Joe
09-13-2004, 06:04 PM
Maybe he ment "new" or "100% made from scratch" or "reskinned"?

Otacon
09-13-2004, 08:45 PM
Very nice work as usual, too bad there aren't enough British maps available to enjoy these on though =(

Cole
09-13-2004, 09:59 PM
Ever plan on doing some us-inf or axis-inf? if not think you could also make these us-inf?

Sgt.Sinister
09-13-2004, 11:11 PM
Make a whole new player model set for DoD:S. us and axis para and inf.

You know you want to. And you know we would all make love to you if you did. :kitty: :kitty: :kitty:

=DD=Wolf Kahler
09-13-2004, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
Pimp it...

The lighting on his face is beautiful. Looks like a more advanced engine in that particular shot.

Fantastic stuff.

~*StaR*~
09-14-2004, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
Pimp it hard... lol, those player models don't go with that environment at all :p (because those look REAL) :D gj jed!

Trp. Jed
09-14-2004, 05:07 AM
I need to look at the eyes a bit. I think the reason he appears to "stare" so much is because the texture for the eyes is actually too large. It makes it too sharp so when its rendered the edges stand out too much.

I need to tweak the hands a bit too as the fingers don't quite close right at the moment. I'm going to have to fix some of the animations too as the fingers get all twisted up and look a bit crap really.

I might also cut back on the polies on the ears as I think I went a bit overboard there. Not reall need for all the detail I put in them. If I can get a couple of hundred polies off the model it will help a bit.

Sproily
09-16-2004, 09:33 AM
Have you got any other faces for the model?

I'd so much like to make a face, even one for that so-cool high-poly face :O

Trp. Jed
09-16-2004, 09:53 AM
Yeah I got loads of faces.

Sproily
09-16-2004, 11:35 AM
Nice.. but when you release, I would like to make a face pack for it ^_^

Ska Wars
09-16-2004, 12:34 PM
*takes cover*

[DF]Panzershrek
09-16-2004, 01:14 PM
these push around 2800 polys.

I've worked with 8000 polyied ones, so this one is pretty awesome!

Good work Jed! (I think teh Sergeant Major is liek, sechs)

Trp. Jed
09-16-2004, 01:38 PM
Bloody hell, I havent even released it yet and already your salivating ready to pull it apart. Your like a bunch of leeches! :eek:

Oh, final poly count is 2567 - I made some optimisations for polys/vertex counts and did my best to minmize texture memory useage.

These are probably the best player models I've made to date. :carrot:

A.F.Dizzle
09-16-2004, 03:35 PM
trp. jed has the |-| 4 \/\/ -|- models.

darkflame
09-16-2004, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
Bloody hell, I havent even released it yet and already your salivating ready to pull it apart. Your like a bunch of leeches! :eek:

Oh, final poly count is 2567 - I made some optimisations for polys/vertex counts and did my best to minmize texture memory useage.

These are probably the best player models I've made to date. :carrot:

So are you getting ready to set a release date?

=DD=Wolf Kahler
09-16-2004, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
I'm going to have to fix some of the animations too as the fingers get all twisted up and look a bit crap really.

Yes. For some reason, in many anims, the fingers get twisted backwards before bending. A problem I noticed long ago. I mentioned it at the time, but nothing ever got done.

I choose not to mess with anims, though, so I never fixed it myself. If you fix them, maybe the dev team'll use them as default, because all the player models have that problem.

It's a small thing, but it's still something that's been there for quite some time. I figure all bugs, glitches and mistakes should be corrected eventually, right?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that... :PARROT:

President Shrub
09-17-2004, 02:50 PM
They should add Brit paras to DoD and make these the default brit paras! cuz they look sweet!

fess
09-19-2004, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
These are probably the best player models I've made to date. :carrot:

Or anyone for that matter.

Trp. Jed
09-19-2004, 08:21 AM
Well their almost done. I've been putzing around with the face textures but as always im never happy and I could mess with them forever and never relase.

I'm toying with some anim stuff as well at the moment.

But anyway, I have at least one compiled working version and a few friends have tried them in game and have suprisingly reported very little impact on FPS. How it fairs on a full 32 player server we will have to see.

Steel Blade
09-19-2004, 08:25 AM
Will these have those changing face anims when firing etc?

darkflame
09-19-2004, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Steel Blade
Will these have those changing face anims when firing etc?

That would be cool to see.

Black Lotus
09-19-2004, 08:36 AM
lol, I'm going to end up useing them not only for brits, but for axis and americans. I'll just add a darker tone to them for axis, lol.

Sproily
09-19-2004, 09:36 AM
Release! Release! Release! :D

Cant wait!!!
I dont even usually use custom models... even if I do them myself.. I never like them :D

This is a one thing im GOING to use!

Release an alpha or a beta, please! :p

Ginger Lord
09-19-2004, 09:51 AM
These models are so sexy to play with ingame. Thank you Jed.

Sproily
09-19-2004, 12:35 PM
What what what?? Has it been released?!

Trp. Jed
09-19-2004, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Gellyfishh
What what what?? Has it been released?!

OMG! Gabe has hacked into my PC and stolen teh sources!!!11one

Ska Wars
09-19-2004, 05:15 PM
Until I get my HL back I'll have to make do with having them run around in HLMV making the sound effects myself

*bang* *kaboom!* *Oh no, i've been shot what what" and so on.

Trp. Jed
09-21-2004, 11:52 AM
Done...

Can't release just yet as the admin who manages my downloads is in sick-bay so you'll have to wait a few days.

While I can't comment on all systems, my P4 2.6Ghz and FX5200 can run them fine with a full server at a nice steady 60fps at 1072x768x32 @ 85hz.

Cole
09-21-2004, 10:32 PM
Awsome, cant wait to check these out.

baldrick5
09-21-2004, 10:48 PM
<------eager with anticipation

Pinhead
09-23-2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Steel Blade
BEST
BRIT
MODELS
EVER

What he said

Trp. Jed
09-24-2004, 02:47 AM
Caen Test (http://members.chello.se/wunderboy/caen_test.jpg)

{tBs}IamDoydy
09-24-2004, 04:43 AM
the thid pic down, his knee is stretched :(

other than that they look very nice jed

Trp. Jed
09-24-2004, 07:53 AM
Not much you can do about that with the HL engine. Actually the knees are modeled to try and reduce the 90 degree corners on the knees you get with the default models.

{tBs}IamDoydy
09-24-2004, 07:59 AM
ahh right, it dont matter too much. i know the problem yo uare getting and how hard it is too get around

Vandal
09-24-2004, 08:49 AM
Dammit Jed!!!

WHAT DID MY FPS EVER DO TO YOU!

:D

Sproily
09-24-2004, 09:03 AM
Really nice Jed.. can I donate you? :D

Trp. Jed
09-24-2004, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Vandal
Dammit Jed!!!

WHAT DID MY FPS EVER DO TO YOU!

:D

You know, its actually not that bad. I havent noticed my FPS drop below 60 and I only have a cruddy FX5200 card. I think the fact I was really careful making sure all the vertices were welded and that there were no superfluous polygons helps a little. I know the compiler was able to optimise the triangle fans and strips a lot better so I reckon although they have more polys their just as efficient as the lower poly models I made.

darkflame
09-24-2004, 09:03 PM
So you did a splinter trick, took semi high models and just made phat assed(my god did I say that) textures for them:confused:

Nine
09-24-2004, 09:53 PM
Tell your buddy to take some advil.

Trp. Jed
09-25-2004, 12:50 AM
Not really, the textures arent any larger than the ones in my previous models their just better organised to save texture memory. I don't think it uses many more textures than say the axis infantry models.

As for the mesh, its a rework of the previous version except I added an extra 500 polys to enhance the detail in the face and hands, used better smoothing groups and did some vertex optimisations which requires less CPU and helps the graphic card draw the models faster.

Its not really rocket science. It just stuff that got :vader::vader::vader::vader:ed switching between LithUnWrap and Milkshape and this time I just have better quality control.

Black Lotus
09-25-2004, 03:58 AM
Your custom title says it all, Jed.

darkflame
09-25-2004, 10:41 PM
Oh I see, yea I asked just cause many models will smoke pc's cause of the textures alone:hamster:

[4thR]HyPeR
09-25-2004, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
Yeah I got loads of faces.
O_o








:D

ESFREVAN
09-27-2004, 04:50 AM
has it been released????

Trp. Jed
09-27-2004, 11:43 AM
Not yet. Its sitting on my hard disk waiting for my friend to get out of hospital so I can put it on the download server.

Steel Blade
09-27-2004, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
Not yet. Its sitting on my hard disk waiting for my friend to get out of hospital so I can put it on the download server.

Jeez some people eh tisch :p

Sproily
09-27-2004, 02:21 PM
Im shaking... cant wait :)
btw why cant I PM you?

[CS] Jedi
09-27-2004, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Trp. Jed
Not yet. Its sitting on my hard disk waiting for my friend to get out of hospital so I can put it on the download server.

Not sure how long your friend will be in the hospital, but if you're interested I can upload them to my webserver and you can use the link until your friend gets out of the hospital. We have plenty of bandwidth. I understand if you want to keep the distribution under your control though.

[H2H]MetalHeart
10-04-2004, 03:10 PM
[H2H]Snake...
anything happened? Jed are you there? :) just can't wait for your models :)

Trp. Jed
10-04-2004, 04:27 PM
Yeah im here. Their still sat on my desktop waiting to be uploaded - Brit, Canadian and G.P.R versions all with berets and helmets.

Vandal
10-04-2004, 04:29 PM
Jed, if you have yahoo you can send them to me through there, I'll host them up on fragspersecond.net my SN is fps_vandal.

Trp. Jed
10-04-2004, 04:50 PM
Thanks but its o.k. I'm in no really great hurry to release them.

Vandal
10-04-2004, 04:59 PM
Roger that. :)

Trp. Jed
10-05-2004, 01:40 PM
While your waiting, have a Glider Pilot.

FivenseveN
10-05-2004, 02:09 PM
wow your friend really should have thought about this before he went to the hospital, what a selfish *******!! :P J/K GREAT Models and i hope your friends condition isnt too bad.

NuTSymPToM
10-05-2004, 03:00 PM
im gonna go ahead and say wat everyone else is thinking

1. holy lots of cat faces or hamsters or watever the hell they are

and 2. pretty please for the love of god and all that is holy make the full spectrum of models (brits, brit para, axis, axis para, american, american para)

i would understand not doing it for hl1 cuz it'll be "history" soon, but perhaps for dod:s or dod:2

ur models own my face

Exit 31
10-06-2004, 11:56 AM
Now these models are a tru homage to the Britisch Airborn divison landed around Arnhem. I was at the Memorial Service at Oosterbeek (http://www.curme.co.uk/arnhem.htm) this year. Truely impressive....No words.
Thank you Jed!

Trp. Jed
10-06-2004, 01:17 PM
Well the intent was that they be a set for the Arnhem memorial.

So far I have:

British Airborne
Brititsh Glider Pilot Regiment
Polish Airborne
Dutch Commandos

and I updated the Canadian models to.

I'll probably do some others too when I get time.

ENTI
10-06-2004, 02:37 PM
when they gettin released?? add some british INF if you can it can be a whole pack :D

[H2H]MetalHeart
10-08-2004, 03:02 AM
H2HSnake...
it'll not be released till the DoD:S comes out lol.These models are so grerat that the DOD DEV Team wants it as their own models for DOD:S.Jed is already in DoD DEV team and he's playing with us lol.:PARROT:

fess
10-08-2004, 10:45 AM
I'm sorry this is completley off topic, but why do you out a different name in your posts, u use 2 different ones??:confused:

=DD=Wolf Kahler
10-10-2004, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Cpt_Speirs[OwP]
I'm sorry this is completley off topic, but why do you out a different name in your posts, u use 2 different ones??:confused:
I believe those are the two names creditted to the quotes he has right above them.

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