Well i decided to post some updated/new pics of caen_classic in a new thread with the proper subject tittle besides the fact that my old thread was half full of flames

If an admin could close my old caen_classic thread that would be apreciated because i wil not be updating it anymore

anyway here are a few new/updated pics of dod_caen_classic

http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/DoD_Caen_Classic12.jpg
http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/DoD_Caen_Classic13.jpg
http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/DoD_Caen_Classic14.jpg
http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/DoD_Caen_Classic15.jpg
http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/DoD_Caen_Classic16.jpg

Comments, Sugguestions, Ideas = Good
Flames, Imaturity = Bad :rolleyes:

more coloured textures. caen wasn't all grey and brown

Great Work NC, Looks Fantastic.

i am looking forward to this map

Nothing special, unorginal, bland texutes, simple brushwork.

Looks like you added some 1.0 map models but besides that it looks like you just got bored. Texture choices are dark and unvaried.

I'd call this more of an expirement in mapping than an actual true and orginal map.

-Plato

I think he has done a hell of a job so far. If you can't recognize that Plato, you need to take a closer look.

More texture variety, more map variety. It's ok that you want to stick along the lines of the original but we already have caen in 1.0. Do something extraordinary and different that will seperate this from every other caen remake out there. The entire city of Caen wasn't 341 x 341 feet you know...

Originally posted by 2ltben
More texture variety, more map variety. It's ok that you want to stick along the lines of the original but we already have caen in 1.0. Do something extraordinary and different that will seperate this from every other caen remake out there. The entire city of Caen wasn't 341 x 341 feet you know...

There is actually more texture variety then dod_caen2 had (over 6mb of textures) you just can not see it in the pics because they only show small parts of the map

Once the map is finished you will be able to see how much variety there really is

NC17 dont get me wrong, i love your work u made me 1 very happy bunny when u re-made hill. and i still hope ull do a british version.

but caen didnt really need doing, we have a caen, a good caen.

thats what made your version of hill so great. we lost hill and we wanted it back.

we have a caen... anyway please dont take it the wrong way its still a great map. good work!

Add the old tanks that one could sit in and shoot from!

NOTE: this is a question, not ment to start an augument.

NC17, ur map looks good, but why are u remaking a map that is perfectly good any way? all the ceans were very similar..

Is it really necessary to remake maps that are from the past??? Even if they were great, let them be good memories... the show must go on!!!
Will there be a dod_caen for HL2?
Then a dod_caen2_classic_b3.1 and then a dod_caen_v1.0, a dod_caen_classic_v1.0, etc etc.

There's a lot of possibilities so... why not exploiting every idea to bring new gaming experiences???
Personnaly, since I play DoD, I've always loved playing custom maps. IMHO it's getting boring to play the same maps again and again.

Each new map is a new DoD to me. I mean every mapper has his own feeling of the game whether the map is a success or not...

i like. cant wait to play it.

Originally posted by Sagitarius
more coloured textures. caen wasn't all grey and brown

Agreed..:-)

NC17- you're a very talented mapper, but why are you remaking caen? The existing version is fine, if a little crappy looking (sorry Waldo).

Concentrate ur effort on other work- thats my reccommendation, pass on this work to somebody else.

Originally posted by CptMuppet
NC17- you're a very talented mapper, but why are you remaking caen? The existing version is fine, if a little crappy looking (sorry Waldo).

Concentrate ur effort on other work- thats my reccommendation, pass on this work to somebody else.

I have not been working on it lately but i will be releasing it sometime i just will be working on my own projects for a while before i finish work on caen_classic

I might finish it after dod_abfall and my dod beachmap are complete

hey NC17, big fan of your hill map and going to probably be a fan of your beachmap also. is the easter egg in electric alley there?:D

oh, and also add the tanks like xerent suggested and also the stationary 50 cals :D

all the ceans have looked like crap (for most parts of the map), as for this one i can't really tell, screens are too dark.

Originally posted by AFG
hey NC17, big fan of your hill map and going to probably be a fan of your beachmap also. is the easter egg in electric alley there?:D

oh, and also add the tanks like xerent suggested and also the stationary 50 cals :D

Not MY hill map but i am glad that you like the updated version of it

And as far as the tanks i am not sure yet

That will be one of the last things i set up in caen_classic along with the scoring entities

well you need to test it just give us a hoot... Ill help mirror it when your ready also...

I just don't understand why you're wasting time remaking something that doesn't need to be remade when you have a much better project waiting in the wings. What is the point of remaking a map that already exists anyway? Who is going to want to play it when there is already a caen? And why waste time on it when you have something far more worthwhile to do? I just don't get it. I don't suppose I ever will. Oh well.

meow...


that looks great. i will keep me eye on this one.

Originally posted by Fractal
I just don't understand why you're wasting time remaking something that doesn't need to be remade when you have a much better project waiting in the wings. What is the point of remaking a map that already exists anyway? Who is going to want to play it when there is already a caen? And why waste time on it when you have something far more worthwhile to do? I just don't get it. I don't suppose I ever will. Oh well.

because he can thats why!

Advice: put those nasty airstrikes from the old versions of Caen back in your version. It would also be cool if you can put those tanks back.

lol. the old tanks you could jump in and shoot....wow those was the days...Laggy as hell when everyone started shootin every tank.lol..

Still great idea though.

I like it...looks nice:D

Why do you guys care if he makes "another" Caen? Its a great map, most everybody likes it. The beach maps got redone....made some changes to those....didnt hear hardly a peep about that:rolleyes: , why Caen?

I like it.....when you get ready to test it...let me know we'll run it, and host it too;)

yeah, put in the tanks that you could shoot from and I'll forget you used to be Xeven

Oh yeah, which country are you going to put in as the Allies? I say screw historical correctness and put in the U.S. since the current Caen already uses the British.

I allready have 2 Caen classics ... dod_caen (pre 3.0b) and dod_caen2 (3.0b/3.1).

Difference is they were made, played and replaced thus making them Classics. I don't see for the life of me how you can make a classic.

Ok, I will say it straight, from dark side now.
I don't like it and I don't see any sense in cloning quite good and easily available default dod map. I don't see anything interesting in this map. Very similar textures and layout the same as we all have 1.0 caen 1.0.
BTW I've played your dod_hill_classic map and it's far worse than original.
Sorry, but this is my honest opinion. :(

If your refering to the hill remake where there are bars across the tower so u cannot aim to the motar pit then I agree totally, that hill is rubbish. Im also starting to agree with Craftos too about the caen, there are already 3 official versions.

NC17, have u ever made an original map, u seem to just do remakes, Im sure your talented enough to make something original.

Now don't make him angry, he's loble to throw a hissy fit like he did in the original forums and get himself banned again.

i don't know what ur guys problems are. do you actually play dod? or just flame other people in the forums all say? If you play dod and have played his map hill_classic, you would see what a good mapper he is. I don't care it if is a remake, he still made it from scratch and its 10 times better than alot of the other crap i have seen out there. who cares if there are already "3 caens". I'm sure people (me included) will play his version. Honestly if you don't like what he is doing, stay out of this threads. As for half of you flaming him, i haven't seen good maps from any of you... so until you put one out, shut the hell up. and even after you put one out, shut the hell up.

1 - I have made original maps for other games but not yet for dod hill_classic is the first non-oirginal map i have made

2 - I will not reply to imature comments made by wittman nor anyone else

oh oh oh oh, americans :D

*EDIT* ok, I didn't read the flamings and all before I posted but I did now and let me get this straight, you are flaming a guy for his work wich costs him valueable houres for making you entertain yourself, brushwork is fine, textures are fine, everything is fine. But why the hell are you flaming him for something he wants to do!!! If he want to remake the old caen, let him do it!!! If you don't like it, leave it along and go play other maps or leave this thread alone, no, instead of giving constructive critism you are burrying this man for work that he wants to entertain people with!!! I'm sorry, but sometimes I feel like there are a lots of kids on this boards when I read your posts, NC17 is a great mapper, if you don't like his work, leave him alone or give constructive critism!!!

Originally posted by Techn9ne
who cares if there are already "3 caens". I'm sure people (me included) will play his version.
It's allready hard enough to get new custom maps played. Why in Gods name would we want more of the same maps we allready now and played before?
NC17's other work is fine to the point of being really good but I don't see why we need a remake of an allready existing map.

p.s. try to refrain from lame posting behaviour or you might wanna stay out of this forum yourself. We are not in the business of educating 12-year olds.

Well it is not at all the "same old map"

The basic layout is pretty much the same but i have added so much that it has around 50% more then any other version of caen

New paths, new areas, new sounds, new textures, new brushwork, more detail, better use of r_speeds

This will not be the same old caen

I was sort of disapointed with the 1.0 version of caen and i have not really played it since the first day 1.0 was released

So i am making this map more for my self then anyone else which is why it is on the back burner while i work on my own ideas

i don't know how telling you guys to stay out of his threads and to stop giving him **** is "lame posting behavior".

If you want to read lame posting behavior please read any of your fellow anti-re-make map flamers in any of his threads

"try to refrain from lame posting behaviour or you might wanna stay out of this forum yourself. We are not in the business of educating 12-year olds."

The only 12 year old here is you, coming back and flaming me for sticking up for a guy that is getting crap for his hard work and effort.

Once again, I don't care if you don't want him to make this map. He is already almost done with it and I, along with others, are looking forward to it.

Eh Techn9ne, would you be so kind as to point out where I flame you. You might wanna read more carefully what someone types.

NC17 doesn't need people like you to stick up for him. He is perfectly capable of saving his own ass.

Nowhere did I say 'I don't want him to make this map' , I just stated that I personally don't see the need for it. Which is something totaly different.

Furthermore I am working my ass of in trying to get custom maps played in all sorts of variety so you might wanna show some respect to me and other people here before you come crashing in here like you own the place.

NC17 posted his classic idea here to get feedback which he is receiving now on a daily basis :)

jeez, If the guy wants to do a remake let him do a remake :)
it would be nicer if he'd use his skills for something new and original, but thats up to him.
I say let him do his thing, dont start shouting at each other over nothing and if ya dont like it dont get it and wait for him do do a map of his own.

not sure... but this seems like a flame to me:

"p.s. try to refrain from lame posting behaviour or you might wanna stay out of this forum yourself. We are not in the business of educating 12-year olds."

Kewl the quoting game ...

Assumption ...
Originally posted by Techn9ne
i don't know what ur guys problems are. do you actually play dod? or just flame other people in the forums all say?
Insulting ...
Originally posted by Techn9ne
I don't care it if is a remake, he still made it from scratch and its 10 times better than alot of the other crap i have seen out there.
Trying to own the thread ...
Originally posted by Techn9ne
Honestly if you don't like what he is doing, stay out of this threads.
Plain rudeness ...
Originally posted by Techn9ne
As for half of you flaming him, i haven't seen good maps from any of you... so until you put one out, shut the hell up. and even after you put one out, shut the hell up.

ktxsbye :rolleyes:

trail duck i think tech9yne has made some good points so go use the rolleyes animation elsewhere as ure post was not useful at all.

BACK ON TOPIC

NC17, i always thought since of 1.3b of having a sewer in caen. Do you think its possible to add one? pls? let me think of more stuff u can put in that map :D

Originally posted by Plato
Nothing special, unorginal, bland texutes, simple brushwork.

Looks like you added some 1.0 map models but besides that it looks like you just got bored. Texture choices are dark and unvaried.

I'd call this more of an expirement in mapping than an actual true and orginal map.

-Plato

You do realize its a remake right?

Originally posted by NC17
2 - I will not reply to imature comments made by wittman nor anyone else

very cute, seeing as how you spelled IMMATURE wrong :p

What's going to make me want to play this Caen more than the other one we already have? We play dod_hill_classic because we don't have the original Hill anymore, but we still have Caen. So what are you going to add that's going to make this map a better choice over the other Caen. It's basically advertising just like in the retail game market. You can make any number of 'me too' games you want, but you've got to have something that makes it more interesting than your competition to get people interested. Maybe adding another big street, some tanks that you can use (or automated tanks that shoot at you, hell make em drive if you want). But there's just not enough here to make me want to play this more than the current one. I figured you'd be going back and re-mapping all the maps that have died so far like Maniz, VN62, Seg3, and crap like that.

Originally posted by Cheeto
I figured you'd be going back and re-mapping all the maps that have died so far like Maniz, VN62, Seg3, and crap like that. He probably won't be allowed to do that. Hill mapper is "lost" and caen is official map, so like Waldo said you can do whatever you want with it. For other maps - it's author's will be very angry about such remakes (especially Kamikazi whio is working on Seg4 now).
My comment was supposed to push in directions "Don't copy, add something, make it really better". He can do what he wants in his mapping and I (and everyone else) can think whatever I want about his work.

Howgh :)

PS. It doesn't matter how long you work. It means nothing. Only final effect counts.

Originally posted by TheNomad
If your refering to the hill remake where there are bars across the tower so u cannot aim to the motar pit then I agree totally, that hill is rubbish. Im also starting to agree with Craftos too about the caen, there are already 3 official versions.

NC17, have u ever made an original map, u seem to just do remakes, Im sure your talented enough to make something original.

ok, i was a bit immiture (what ever the spelling) but i didnt mean it to seem like a flame.

I just want to get into NC17's head to see y he is doing this. I can understand Hill, but not caen, but nevermind.

I just think if he made his "own" map then it would be very good, but its up to him.

why do i always start the arguments :confused:

NC17- can we request that u remake certain maps?

:)

e.g. koln?? Hint hint!!

The real Koln can be found here (http://files.houstondod.com/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=75) if you want it.

I backed up my 3.1 maps... :)

All thats wrong is I forgot to back up the sky textures!! SO I get the HL desert texture for a couple of them.

Well NC17 :) It lewks great.........

But I think rather make classic maps that isnt around anymore (Caen is around , so dont make it) . Make dod_omaha , dod_snowtown (altho there is that one map thats kind of like it , NOTHING compares to the original)

Just something to keep in mind after you've finished this one :D Because the newer players wont play classic_caen cause they have the new one , so why bother (just like some n00bs dont wannt DOWNLOAD hill , I mean :P )

Anywayz thanks for hill :D

Koln was made by waldo who is still mapping so ask him to bring it back but make sure he does not use the same texture scheme as the original If he does not want to put any more work into it and still has the .rmf then i will be glad to take it over from him with his permission

And i know caen is still around and caen was actually the first classic map i started i was just going to do it to experimnent with a few ideas that i taught would have been cool in caen

Anyway you will probly see omaha_classic before you see caen_classic so dont worry :D

Also what is the story with valley2? i heard the original mapper saying he was going to bring it back but have not heard anything since

Valley was on my list of maps i wanted to bring back but if the original auther is remaking it then i wont bother

Ohhh.... Omaha_classic. I liked that one since it was fun to snipe, good luck with that. Also good luck with valley since I could never play it (got into DoD too late).

About Caen_classic, which Allied country is going to be in it, Americans or British.

Originally posted by NC17
Valley was on my list of maps i wanted to bring back but if the original auther is remaking it then i wont bother
Sounds like NC17 has some sort of "master plan" >D

Originally posted by -iNw-Andy
Sounds like NC17 has some sort of "master plan" >D

Well no, just world domination is all . . . ;)

I started this project to bring back all of the maps that people (including my self) miss and have them updated with all of the new 1.0 features

More screens!

NC-17, the map looks excellent. I will be sure to put it on my server the very moment you release it. I saw comments made about "Getting custom maps played" Well, I'm not quite sure, but a map made by someone not on the Dev team is a Custom map, is it not? So by playing it, is it playing a custom map? And If not, why do you need to be the one to advocate custom maps? I understand that custom maps need more use. But if you want to help, the best way is not to flame someone's hard work on the DoD forums, its to make a good website, get a good server, and play custom maps. Make mappacks available on your website for your regulars and friends to download. This way we get one more fast, and fun server and one less meanspirited post on the forums. Everyone seems to have this meanstreak where if they do not like a model, or a texture or idea, instead of not posting at all, or posting something constructive like "Thats a great start! I would change the textures on the ladders and add some rain" they post "omg why would you do that? its so lame". That dosn't help anyone, its insulting. Anyone who's sat infront of photoshop for 5 hours working like a dog on something, only to have it erased and have to start again knows what its like to be proud of your work. And when someone comes up and says "That Skin/Model/Map/Sprite/ect Sucks becuase I said so" It's not only not helpful, but its insulting.

Please take the time to think before you post, remember there are real people on the other side of the screen, who work hard and have real feelings, just like you. Keep that in mind.

Skullz, no one's been talking about that for awhile now.

Aye, but I just caught the posts, myself.

the link was broken

Originally posted by BoMuS
Great Work NC, Looks Fantastic.

Originally posted by xerent
Add the old tanks that one could sit in and shoot from!

ditto