we need help DOD mappers


Buzzbee
07-20-2003, 12:58 AM
hey i play dod in clan play and dod needs more maps that can be used for clan play. I was wondering if i could get a list of good maps that i should test out and or have a mapper like contact me about a map and help him test it. dod_railroad is a prime example of making map by having clans test it, that is fun and playable for clans and pubs, we need more of them. currently in retail there are very few maps that are decent for a season. since maps for clans are going to be flag based only they should be listed thanks.

bogart
07-20-2003, 01:19 AM
i concur if you're only going to make 1 map this year... make it a clan map and it will actually be played by people

07-20-2003, 06:28 AM
i concur if you're only going to make 1 map this year... make it a clan map and it will actually be played by people

But what if we're already making a map that's blatantly targeted at preventing teamwork? Won't it be too late?

Buzzbee
07-20-2003, 09:17 AM
you get clans to play a map it will become popular pretty fast ;D

btw if you are making a map, there should be no need to blow thiong sup but if there is don't have us have to us bazookas, sachel charges work much better

Mantis
07-20-2003, 10:38 AM
sry I'll have to add in Kalt.

I'm wondering if we'll ever see a new Zafod.

Anzio, Railroad, Kalt & Donner are the best clan maps imo. Zafod will be nice to play on wednesday.

Zafod.txt actually shows the website of the mapper so who knows maybe we can contact this guy heh.

[edit] oh ya, topic says "we need help DOD mappers". To me it doesn't matter if your map doesn't make it into the official list. Just share it with the clans and if it looks like a good clan map then clans will certainly play it (just look at Railroad). If you are a mapper and you look at Railroad's success then I hope it motivates you to create some good clan maps. I think it would be cool for a mapper to be like "kewl CAL & UGS are using MY map that ISN'T official for the playoff's final" BRING US SOME MORE CLAN MAPS

TheNomad
07-20-2003, 03:35 PM
UH Mantis?

Plato
07-20-2003, 03:55 PM
shut up

Buzzbee
07-20-2003, 05:40 PM
yes that is uh mantis and he is right

Howitzer
07-20-2003, 06:03 PM
dod_nedus_b2 seems pretty good for CTF action IMO.

07-20-2003, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Plato
shut up


Nice reply.... Buzzbee and Mantis are being serious here. Get your head out of your ass and listen up. More dod mappers especially the official mappers for DoD need to follow Instacrome's example (mapper of dod_railroad) he made a map aimed towards pleasing clanners' needs. He's currently in the works of dod_railroad2 and is almost done. What he has done to change railroad is ask for the requests and has taken advice from clanners themselves. Thus, pleasing everyone in the clanning community. dod_railroad is a huge success in the clan community and so will dod_rr2. Anzio, kalt, and donner are great at the moment, we just need more of those types of maps. Please don't take this as a flame and just another complaint to the dodmod team, I do know they are working hard on 1.1 and soon to be dod2... we all know clanning is the future of dod.

travis
07-21-2003, 04:09 AM
do like the rest of us, go search yourself. youd be surprised what a little bit of easy work can get u

Craftos
07-21-2003, 04:39 AM
Well, after reading these posts (including 'favourite' examples) I don't get what clan-fiendly map should look like. Maybe some tutorial or pointing. I'm serious. :).

Rotkopf
07-21-2003, 05:54 AM
railguns for everyone.

nah, seriously, let me quote the creator of this topic :

since maps for clans are going to be flag based only

ehr... last time I checked the German clan scene Jagd was a VERY popular map. I´ve seen Glider being played as well. Objective maps are far better for a clan match than a flag capture map. They require teamwork and coordination, something which often isnt there on a public server. Flag maps on the other hand are often pure deathmatch maps.

07-21-2003, 06:14 AM
since maps for clans are going to be flag based only

Yeah, what are you talking about?

Simply put, so I don't take up much space, flag maps, all you have to do is play offensive. Everyone runs to the action.

However, in objectives maps, jagd for example, you have to play offensive and defensive. That requires more tactical planning. You have to pick offensive and defensive ppl, good positions for them, how to move ppl if one flank gets wiped out, etc. You can't just run forward and shoot everyone and expect to win.

Besides, you can do some things with objectives that are better for clan matches. You can have objectives that change spawns, giving teams worse positions, stuff like that which can affect the game, making the objectives strategical.

Howitzer
07-21-2003, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by kamEz0rz
... we all know clanning is the future of dod.
I didn't know...

Buzzbee
07-21-2003, 01:02 PM
well i'm not in germany but the US and its just like cs, do they play the hostage maps for clan play? no its the bomb maps only. same with dod we tryed the objective maps but they just resort to camping in random spots like cs. that is why we play dod with flag maps and not the objective ones. Sure they are fun in pubs but we need more maps that are non linear i guess you could say. if you look at maps like anzio and railroad they are like a circlular sort of map, not linear like heatau was.

CptMuppet
07-21-2003, 01:24 PM
Yeah objective maps are rather pro-camping. Glider is most rampant with camping.

If you like Anzio, You should hopefully like my map I'm working on, but (you won't like this)- it has some Panzerschreks on it which you have to use to open up a capture area.

Plato
07-21-2003, 01:50 PM
Nice reply.... Buzzbee and Mantis are being serious here. Get your head out of your ass and listen up. More dod mappers especially the official mappers for DoD need to follow Instacrome's example (mapper of dod_railroad) he made a map aimed towards pleasing clanners' needs. He's currently in the works of dod_railroad2 and is almost done. What he has done to change railroad is ask for the requests and has taken advice from clanners themselves. Thus, pleasing everyone in the clanning community. dod_railroad is a huge success in the clan community and so will dod_rr2. Anzio, kalt, and donner are great at the moment, we just need more of those types of maps. Please don't take this as a flame and just another complaint to the dodmod team, I do know they are working hard on 1.1 and soon to be dod2... we all know clanning is the future of dod.




I make maps for people who play dod, that includes you and everyone else.

So chill out and play railroad, just don't tell us to make all our maps like dod_railroad (a great map by the way). I don't tell you how to play nor do I care.


So I again say...shut up... and play dod.

-Plato
"The People's mapper"

Ginger Lord
07-21-2003, 01:57 PM
I make maps for myself. I dont make them for anyone. If they work well in clan matches well good. If they dont im not gonna cry in bed all night long.

bogart
07-21-2003, 03:54 PM
i might add you'll see that railroad ispopular because there are no dark corners to prone in, and nothing that really promote camping in the terrain although the terrain can be used for cover at the same time.
this makes for a fun fast paced map

if you want your maps played by many, make a map good for matches, and the leagues will use them, clan members will download it to play in the matches, and if its good the clanning community will even pub these maps.

otherwise you'll have 1 custom server running it with pubbers who dont feel like downloading it just leaving the server when your map comes on.

just a suggestion

xer0
07-21-2003, 04:40 PM
buzzbee SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you dont hack, you dont get your demos requested so SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<3

anywhoo yeh, we need more maps like RR <railroad>

btw, im in the same clan as buzzbee that why i flame him

Plato
07-21-2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by xer0
anywhoo yeh, we need more maps like RR <railroad>[/B]

Think of what your saying.

What are the charcteristics of Railroad that make it great in your opinion.

Now that you have thought of that...keep it to yourself because I don't care. I map not for 'clan players'. I map for dod players.

-Plato

bogart
07-21-2003, 11:57 PM
hi plato you're not the only mapper in the world no need to be an ******* thanks

Craftos
07-22-2003, 04:00 AM
Well, I think railroad can be good just because it was throroughly playtested and mapper applied many updaes, not just that because clans participated in testing. I see that it doesn't really mean what type of map is (obj or flag based) or layout it has (linear, multipath, open). It simply have to be good :).

Plato
07-22-2003, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by bogart
hi plato you're not the only mapper in the world no need to be an ******* thanks

You are welcome Mr. Bogart. Likewise, I thank you for clarifying the fact that I am not the only mapper in the world. Your wise sayings and way with words have inspired me to care.

-Plato

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